View Poll Results: Which starter would you use?

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  • Chespin

    845 26.83%
  • Fennekin

    1,329 42.19%
  • Froakie

    849 26.95%
  • NONE, Dunsparce looks better

    127 4.03%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taodragon View Post
    The only thing is it'd throw off the secondary triangle everyone is predicting since steel adds a major disadvantage to fire.
    Grass/Steel would rock!
    And I think people are jumping to conclusions with this triangle stuff anyway, there were never such thing among the starters.

    Quote Originally Posted by carboncopy View Post
    Hey wait. I thought those were bubbles not clouds ! Thought I would like water/electric too.
    They look like clouds to me... Or even some kind cloth-like thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h0v0r View Post
    @Nyarlathotep : This what im talking about. It posted here some time ago.
    Anyway, the french name references the fact that it has bubbles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep View Post


    Grass/Steel would rock!
    And I think people are jumping to conclusions with this triangle stuff anyway, there were never such thing among the starters.



    They look like clouds to me... Or even some kind cloth-like thing.
    Froakie's Japanese name indicates that the white stuff is foam.

    Unless it's some other white stuff like... gulp... milk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep View Post


    Grass/Steel would rock!
    And I think people are jumping to conclusions with this triangle stuff anyway, there were never such thing among the starters.
    True, I guess what I mean is there aren't that many fire typings that help even things out for that combination, but then again they did have Swampert so it's not like they haven't had starters with a major disadvantage against one another.

    Anyway, I do hope they keep Froakie speedy and slim since both previous water frogs were rather bulky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taodragon View Post
    Anyway, I do hope they keep Froakie speedy and slim since both previous water frogs were rather bulky.
    Ya, me too. Frogs are meant to be speedy, in water at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadej View Post
    What if froakie evolves into water/electric ? when im looking at him I get an idea of clouds around him... and thunders come from clouds... and in the trailer when he was attacking there looked like a little sparks comming out of him .... that would be preatty cool if he would be water/ electric...

    And i really hope for chespin to be grass/ground currently I can't decide between chespin and fennekin.... but I like grass types better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MastersOfMonsters View Post
    Froakie's Japanese name indicates that the white stuff is foam.
    Interesting. I didn't know that. Living and learning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taodragon View Post
    Anyway, I do hope they keep Froakie speedy and slim since both previous water frogs were rather bulky.
    I don't mind a rather bulky design (like this fakemon), but I will be very disappointed if Froakie end up being another slowish and/or pure Water starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carboncopy View Post
    Ya, me too. Frogs are meant to be speedy, in water at least.
    well we are long overdue for a naturally fast water type, sharpedo is only fast due to ability, and keldeo is legendary so I don't count him/her/it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep View Post

    Living and learning.
    YA ! That is the essence of life.
    @Wilda: Isn't lotad also fast in water ?

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    I hope Froakie's final evo is as fast as Floatzel and Starmie... at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carboncopy View Post
    YA ! That is the essence of life.
    @Wilda: Isn't lotad also fast in water ?
    I left out swift swim Users, because it is also due to ability not, natural speed.
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    Ł60 says that Fennekin is going to be a fire/psychic if its a fire/fighting i'm breaking tradition anf going with froakie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep View Post
    I hope Froakie's final evo is as fast as Floatzel and Starmie... at least.
    115? Better be 120 as fast as Sceptile. It will be OU if it's Water/Fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungoliath View Post
    115? Better be 120 as fast as Sceptile. It will be OU if it's Water/Fighting.
    With 115 it will be faster than the other five water starters to begin with, but yeah, the faster the better.

    With a high speed stat, decent attack stats (115+ in either Att or Sp. Att... or both) and a nice offensive typing (/Fighting, /Electric or even /Ice), Froakie's evo would be the boss.

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    Here are my starter final evo deisgn ideas:

    Chespin: Body styles like typhlosion and linoone, sharp claws and a prickly back. The tail would be long and covered in thorns like a rose stem. Focuses on Def, Att, and Speed.

    Fennekin: Body Style like suicune and absol, very slim with a comically big head. but still cute. Ear tufts would smoothly wave back for a more swift looking design. A really fluffy and large tail to balance out the head and the fur tufts on it's legs become bushier. Focuses on Sp. Def, Sp. Att, and Speed.

    Froakie: Body style like Sceptile and Toxicroak, pretty skinny with very long arms and legs. The foam will cover the majority of it's top half (imagine emboar but replace fire and black markings with foam). Large beaming eyes that stand out. Focuses on Sp. Att, HP, and speed

    I'd imagine all 3 of them to share the same speed stat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep View Post

    With 115 it will be faster than the other five water starters to begin with, but yeah, the faster the better.
    With a high speed stat, decent attack stats (115+ in either Att or Sp. Att... or both) and a nice offensive typing (/Fighting, /Electric or even /Ice), Froakie's evo would be the boss.
    Well, overall for starters goes around 530...At most 534.
    Maybe its stats could go like this...
    65 / 105 / 85 / 85 / 70 / 120

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    Quote Originally Posted by carboncopy View Post
    Ya, me too. Frogs are meant to be speedy, in water at least.
    The should totally give it the swift swim ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lduff100 View Post
    The should totally give it the swift swim ability.
    water starters generally have torrent. But, it could have swift swim as a hidden ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungoliath View Post
    Well, overall for starters goes around 530...At most 534.
    Maybe its stats could go like this...
    65 / 105 / 85 / 85 / 70 / 120
    What a terrible HP base... But with 105 attack and 120 speed it would be worth. I guess.

    Btw, why not 65 / 125 / 65 / 85 / 70 / 120? Mind you, I am not very good at this stuff, so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep View Post

    What a terrible HP base... But with 105 attack and 120 speed it would be worth. I guess.
    Btw, why not 65 / 125 / 65 / 85 / 70 / 120? Mind you, I am not very good at this stuff, so...
    It's a better guess, but I hate having such a sucker defense while having a sucker HP. Hum, not too much difference but swapping sp.def over HP may be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ungoliath View Post
    It's a better guess, but I hate having such a sucker defense while having a sucker HP. Hum, not too much difference but swapping sp.def over HP may be a good thing.
    Well, I was thinking on Froakie's evo as glass cannon, so HP and defenses wouldn't matter as much as its attack and speed stats.
    Also, I think higher HP is definitely better than 'decent' defenses.

    Oh well, too bad it will probably end up being one more bulky/slow water starter. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Flygon View Post
    Here are my starter final evo deisgn ideas:

    Chespin: Body styles like typhlosion and linoone, sharp claws and a prickly back. The tail would be long and covered in thorns like a rose stem. Focuses on Def, Att, and Speed.

    Fennekin: Body Style like suicune and absol, very slim with a comically big head. but still cute. Ear tufts would smoothly wave back for a more swift looking design. A really fluffy and large tail to balance out the head and the fur tufts on it's legs become bushier. Focuses on Sp. Def, Sp. Att, and Speed.

    Froakie: Body style like Sceptile and Toxicroak, pretty skinny with very long arms and legs. The foam will cover the majority of it's top half (imagine emboar but replace fire and black markings with foam). Large beaming eyes that stand out. Focuses on Sp. Att, HP, and speed

    I'd imagine all 3 of them to share the same speed stat.
    Is the following kind of what you imagine Chespin's final evo looking like?



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    I would love this so much

    EDIT: Forgot the quote.
    Last edited by ScarredOx; 17th January 2013 at 6:41 PM.

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    Oh, now that would be so cool. I would pick Chespin in a second ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarredOx View Post
    Is the following kind of what you imagine Chespin's final evo looking like?



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    I would love this so much

    EDIT: Forgot the quote.
    yup... this is awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlathotep View Post


    What a terrible HP base... But with 105 attack and 120 speed it would be worth. I guess.

    Btw, why not 65 / 125 / 65 / 85 / 70 / 120? Mind you, I am not very good at this stuff, so...
    I'd like to see Froakie go mixed personally. 82 | 92 | 75 | 100 | 70 | 111. I reduced the speed because after 110 speed there's not many pokemon left to beat in terms of speed. The focus of its offences depends on his final type. If he ends up as Water/Fighting then I switch round the offences. If pure Water then I'll just stick with what's here now, or maybe lower Attack by 20 points and put them in Spatk and Spdef respectively.
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    You're saying some really smart stuff there.

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