Starter Speculation/Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[Greekboy]

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I'm sorry, didn't want to go through 318 pages to check

[DarkSword39]

Please say Fennekin is NOT Fire/Fighting!
However, I do like the Dark/Psychic/Fighting triangle.

[DarkSword39]

Sorry about the same post.

[Zyon]

i don't have anything against them making fire/fighting pokemon. I just don't want it to be the starter.

I agree with you there, nothing against Game Freak cause I don't care if they make fire/fighting type pokemon. I just don't want to see another fire starter with it -_-

[pokedons]

why does everyone think froakie is going to be fighting he doesn't look a thing like a fighter and uses an ice move in the trailer so i think his evos are going to be part ice (i know water types learn ice moves but not that early on usually)

[Squirtortoise]

Damn, Froakie is last...

Anyway, while I am confused with why they would make 3 Fire/Fighting starters in a row, I don't really mind as much as most b/c I only picked Chimchar out of the 3, so I don't feel its necessarily gotten old. But arguing that pure water or grass isnt the same, let me remind you that the first 2 generations had pure waters, and the second and third had pure grass types. In a row. And while that's not 3 times, it is repetitive. And then if this generation has pure types again, then that's another 2 generations in a row we would have pure water and grass. So I understand the complaint of having it happen 3 times, but to say they aren't similar situations is untrue.

Regarding Froakie's evolutions, I have also noticed that none of the previous water starters have been very speedy. Blastoise focused on the defenses, Feraligatr on Attack and Defense, Swampert had great HP and Attack and pretty good defenses, Empoleon SpAtk and SpDef, Samurott on Atk and SpAtk. None have had any above average speed. And while I would like a speedy water starter, I don't necessarily want to force it on Froakie. I think Froakie can be just as great if he were bulky (as long as the design doesnt look like an old decrepit oversized toad). But yeah, speedy water. Waiting for it.

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

I don't want Froakie to become part Fighting type, but a lot of people think it's a great idea.

[pacack825]

I don't want Froakie to become part Fighting type, but a lot of people think it's a great idea.

Agreed. I just don't think it looks like a fighting type, and it might seem forced to me. (to me, not fact xD)

[Taodragon]

why does everyone think froakie is going to be fighting he doesn't look a thing like a fighter and uses an ice move in the trailer so i think his evos are going to be part ice (i know water types learn ice moves but not that early on usually)

It's been debated that it's a water type move as well, and even if it was it doesn't really prove that anything since as you said a lot of water types do learn it.

Personally, I'd like for it to be fighting since it gives him something unique to work with and it would work with a slim design. Having said that, I wouldn't mind if its dark or psychic type either since there are some good ideas they could use for that.

[Charmed]

Oh what the heck? How did Chespin get almost a dozen more votes than Froakie all of a sudden? I get the feeling that the poll is rigged, which worries me. Now I'm not sure if Fennekin really is the most popular Generation 6 Starter Pokemon. Oh well. I still plan on using her. I just wanna see how the other two Starters do in terms of popularity.

[YourPermanentRecord631]

Oh! Chespin is now leading over Froakie! :3 This is exciting.

If only Fannykin wasn't so very far away. ^^

The poll means nothing, considering there is an entire world called The Internet with other opinions.

And the rumor is a definite fake personally, I don't expect Gamefreak to release that kind of information that early.

[Pokemon Robot]

Froakie has a cloud on it, so I'm guessing it's part ice type when it evolves and the cloud grows bigger. I agree that it shouldn't be part fighting when it evolves since it doesn't really look like a fighter. If you notice, All fire and fighting starter pokemon have walked like humans, where as Fennekin walks on all fours, so I'm happy to see it probably will not be a fire and fighting when it evolves. Lastly, I have no opinion for Chespin. It's an Oshawott look-a-like, no matter how you put it.

[Papousse]

Oh what the heck? How did Chespin get almost a dozen more votes than Froakie all of a sudden? I get the feeling that the poll is rigged, which worries me. Now I'm not sure if Fennekin really is the most popular Generation 6 Starter Pokemon. Oh well. I still plan on using her. I just wanna see how the other two Starters do in terms of popularity.

It's not really changing anything. What it does if Chespin as only 10 votes more than Froakie, since Fennekin as over 200 more than Froakie.. ? It's only people who decided (suddenly or not) to vote and, by a pure hazard, more have voted for Chespin than Froakie.

[Astral Shadow]

Froakie has a cloud on it, so I'm guessing it's part ice type when it evolves and the cloud grows bigger. I agree that it shouldn't be part fighting when it evolves since it doesn't really look like a fighter. If you notice, All fire and fighting starter pokemon have walked like humans, where as Fennekin walks on all fours, so I'm happy to see it probably will not be a fire and fighting when it evolves. Lastly, I have no opinion for Chespin. It's an Oshawott look-a-like, no matter how you put it.

Ffs Chespin and Oshawott don't look alike.

Not sure if my secondary type wants changed since last time but:

Grass/Ground or Grass/Steel
Fire/Psychic
Water/Dark or Water/Fighting

[Pokemon Robot]

If you look at both of their appearances, you can see that Chesspin is an Oshawott with a different color. Froakie for the win!

[pokedons]

Ffs Chespin and Oshawott don't look alike.

Not sure if my secondary type wants changed since last time but:

Grass/Ground or Grass/Steel
Fire/Psychic
Water/Dark or Water/Fighting

its not going to be grass ground or grass steel since it uses either night slash or sucker punch in the trailer (it cant be scratch or slash because it is using it against a part ghost type so it wouldn't effect) and it looks like it has nothing to do with the ground or steel

[Taodragon]

Froakie has a cloud on it, so I'm guessing it's part ice type when it evolves and the cloud grows bigger. I agree that it shouldn't be part fighting when it evolves since it doesn't really look like a fighter. If you notice, All fire and fighting starter pokemon have walked like humans, where as Fennekin walks on all fours, so I'm happy to see it probably will not be a fire and fighting when it evolves. Lastly, I have no opinion for Chespin. It's an Oshawott look-a-like, no matter how you put it.

Tepig didn't look like a fighter or walk like a human yet it became another fire/fighting type. Not saying that Fennekin will become that typing but there's nothing stopping it either.

its not going to be grass ground or grass steel since it uses either night slash or sucker punch in the trailer (it cant be scratch or slash because it is using it against a part ghost type so it wouldn't effect) and it looks like it has nothing to do with the ground or steel

Moves don't confirm a pokemon's typing.

[YourPermanentRecord631]

its not going to be grass ground or grass steel since it uses either night slash or sucker punch in the trailer (it cant be scratch or slash because it is using it against a part ghost type so it wouldn't effect) and it looks like it has nothing to do with the ground or steel

Metal Claw says hi.

[pokedons]

Ffs Chespin and Oshawott don't look alike.

Not sure if my secondary type wants changed since last time but:

Grass/Ground or Grass/Steel
Fire/Psychic
Water/Dark or Water/Fighting

also i forgot to say water/dark and water/figting sound and look rediculas it has this cloud on its back which looks like it will grow and become part ice type and how will it be fighting or dark they make no sense

[Pokemon Robot]

Actually, when I first looked at Tepig, I thought it was going to become part fighting before I even looked at Pignite and Emboar. But that's just me.


EDIT: I 100% agree with pokedons

[pokedons]

Metal Claw says hi.

it ins't using metal claw the move looks nothing like metal claw it would have 3 slashes in one direction at the same time not 2 simultaneously

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

its not going to be grass ground or grass steel since it uses either night slash or sucker punch in the trailer (it cant be scratch or slash because it is using it against a part ghost type so it wouldn't effect) and it looks like it has nothing to do with the ground or steel

It has more in common with ground and steel than dark. My guess is Grass/Ground because its a hedgehog.

[YourPermanentRecord631]

it ins't using metal claw the move looks nothing like metal claw it would have 3 slashes in one direction at the same time not 2 simultaneously

And the trailer says "not final product" meaning that could change before release.

[pokedons]

look at their defying features and then imagine them to get more and more obvious like fennekins ear hair froakies cloudy back and chespins clawy feet or hood like head

[Taodragon]

also i forgot to say water/dark and water/figting sound and look rediculas it has this cloud on its back which looks like it will grow and become part ice type and how will it be fighting or dark they make no sense

If you looked at Piplup just in its current forms, would you really have guessed that they would be the typings they would become?

The 'cloud' has been interpreted as a developing cape, a theif's bag, etc. it's really a matter of interpretation really since it can go in any direction.

Actually, when I first looked at Tepig, I thought it was going to become part fighting before I even looked at Pignite and Emboar. But that's just me.


EDIT: I 100% agree with pokedons

I'm just saying those two criteria don't really work at showing what typing a pokemon would become.