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[pokedons]

And the trailer says "not final product" meaning that could change before release.

for in game footage not move animations

[pokedons]

If you looked at Piplup and Tepig just in their current forms, would you really have guessed that they would be the typings they would become?

i knew piplup would be part steel you could see it in its fins/ wings

[Pokemon Robot]

It does in my opinion. You can't just have a pokemon look entirely different than what its type is. No, but everyone thinks a different way.

[DarkManager]

its not going to be grass ground or grass steel since it uses either night slash or sucker punch in the trailer (it cant be scratch or slash because it is using it against a part ghost type so it wouldn't effect) and it looks like it has nothing to do with the ground or steel

Chestnut can be a pokemon who knows dark moves and is not dark.
Learning Nigh Slash or Sucker Punch only mean Chestnut have claws or is fast.

[YourPermanentRecord631]

for in game footage not move animations

Even move animations in the first trailer can change too.

[pokedons]

Chestnut can be a pokemon who knows dark moves and is not dark.
Learning Nigh Slash or Sucker Punch only mean Chestnut have claws or is fast.

chespin not chesnut idoit

[rocky505]

its not going to be grass ground or grass steel since it uses either night slash or sucker punch in the trailer (it cant be scratch or slash because it is using it against a part ghost type so it wouldn't effect) and it looks like it has nothing to do with the ground or steel

There is no way that was sucker punch. That was a slashing type of move. The only two options that would make sense are Aerial Ace(Which it most likely is) and Night Slash.

[pokedons]

It has more in common with ground and steel than dark. My guess is Grass/Ground because its a hedgehog.

it doesn't look a thing like ground where does hedgehog and ground ever come into your mine never and the only thing which could be related with steel are its sharp toe claws

[YourPermanentRecord631]

chespin not chesnut idoit

Convincing counter arguement /sarcasm

And maybe thats what he wants to call Chespin?

[Divine Retribution]

So, here's a list of Pokemon who learn Night Slash and are obviously Dark types.

Ariados
Blaziken
Haxorus
Crustle
Cryogonal
Druddigon
Gallade
Kabutops
Heracross
Heatmor
Kricketune
Scizor
Shedinja
Skarmory
Sceptile

There's more too, but I don't feel like listing them. I think I've made my point.

Source: Smogon

[pokedons]

There is no way that was sucker punch. That was a slashing type of move. The only two options that would make sense are Aerial Ace(Which it most likely is) and Night Slash.

aerial ace is impossible because aerial ace usually depicted as a blue slash these were 2 purple slashes

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

it doesn't look a thing like ground where does hedgehog and ground ever come into your mine never and the only thing which could be related with steel are its sharp toe claws

The claws mak it look like it burrows and digs, and it's coloration suggests ground, being brown.

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

aerial ace is impossible because aerial ace usually depicted as a blue slash these were 2 purple slashes

Thing is, those are new games and these are new graphics. Things can change.

[ArmyOfOneIX]

So, here's a list of Pokemon who learn Night Slash and are obviously Dark types.

Ariados
Blaziken
Haxorus
Crustle
Cryogonal
Druddigon
Gallade
Kabutops
Heracross
Heatmor
Kricketune
Scizor
Shedinja
Skarmory
Sceptile

There's more too, but I don't feel like listing them. I think I've made my point.

Source: Smogon

They are just speculating we know pokemon learn moves that are that their type.

[YourPermanentRecord631]

aerial ace is impossible because aerial ace usually depicted as a blue slash these were 2 purple slashes

That was in the past, new animations can change this generation.

[Taodragon]

It does in my opinion. You can't just have a pokemon look entirely different than what its type is. No, but everyone thinks a different way.

Except that's not correct either, for instance many thought (and still think) that Lugia would be a water/flying or even dragon/flying but not psychic. Looks can be helpful but they aren't always indicative of what a Pokemon's typing is or what their evolution will be.

[Divine Retribution]

That was in the past, new animations can change this generation.

Compare nearly any 3rd Generation animation to its 4th Generation counterpart, this is very true. Also, the 6th Generation is supposed to be "revolutionary", as in the game as we know it is going to drastically change.

[DarkManager]

chespin not chesnut idoit

I call him Chestnut.
Have you some problem with that? u_u

[pokedons]

The claws mak it look like it burrows and digs, and it's coloration suggests ground, being brown.

brown pokemon not ground types weedle pidgey pidgeotto pigeot raticate spearow fearow vulpix mankey primape growlithe arcanine abra kadabra alakzam farfetch'd doduo dodrio hitmonlee hitmoncahn kangaskhan staryu pinser tauros eevee kabuto kabutops dragonite sentret furret hoothoot noctowl teddiursa ursaring stantler hitmontop entei zigzagzagoon seedo nuzleaf shiftry shroomish slakoth slaking shedinja hariyama spinda rapinch baltoy feebas chimchar monferno infernape starly staravia staraptor bidoof bibarrel buizel floatzel buneary lopunny...... more at http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...A9mon_by_color

[pokedons]

I call him Chestnut.
Have you some problem with that? u_u

yes because ITS NOT HIS NAME

[Divine Retribution]

brown pokemon not ground types weedle pidgey pidgeotto pigeot raticate spearow fearow vulpix mankey primape growlithe arcanine abra kadabra alakzam farfetch'd doduo dodrio hitmonlee hitmoncahn kangaskhan staryu pinser tauros eevee kabuto kabutops dragonite sentret furret hoothoot noctowl teddiursa ursaring stantler hitmontop entei zigzagzagoon seedo nuzleaf shiftry shroomish slakoth slaking shedinja hariyama spinda rapinch baltoy feebas chimchar monferno infernape starly staravia staraptor bidoof bibarrel buizel floatzel buneary lopunny...... more at http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...A9mon_by_color

Half of those aren't even brown, I think it's fairly clear Floatzel is orange

Also, you named a bunch of Ground types. Trapinch, Baltoy, etc.

yes because ITS NOT HIS NAME

And why does that bother you? No need to be such a douche.

[rocky505]

aerial ace is impossible because aerial ace usually depicted as a blue slash these were 2 purple slashes

Going by this logic.

This shouldn't be Aerial Ace because it doesn't have a red streak with the slash in BW.


Oh wait the animation just got a makeover.

[YourPermanentRecord631]

yes because ITS NOT HIS NAME

So what, I see some people call Pikachu *a rat* so you will have to Spheal with it.

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

brown pokemon not ground types weedle pidgey pidgeotto pigeot raticate spearow fearow vulpix mankey primape growlithe arcanine abra kadabra alakzam farfetch'd doduo dodrio hitmonlee hitmoncahn kangaskhan staryu pinser tauros eevee kabuto kabutops dragonite sentret furret hoothoot noctowl teddiursa ursaring stantler hitmontop entei zigzagzagoon seedo nuzleaf shiftry shroomish slakoth slaking shedinja hariyama spinda rapinch baltoy feebas chimchar monferno infernape starly staravia staraptor bidoof bibarrel buizel floatzel buneary lopunny...... more at http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...A9mon_by_color

Yes, but you can clearly tell the types of those pokémon with just a glance. I wouldn't mistake any of those pokémon for ground types. There are more clues on Chespin that lead me to believe that Chespin's evolutions will become part Ground, including the color, but not just the color.

[Divine Retribution]

I hope Gamefreak reads this thread and makes Chespin Grass/Dragon or something ridiculous like that just to troll us.