Starter Speculation/Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[Autis-misc]

Agreed. But, unless Chespin turns out to have a really gay evo then I'm still picking him, UNLESS Fennekin's evo is SUPER SUPER boss, which I don't think it will be. I just see it turning into a more muscualr Ninetails in its final evo... But if it's a Fire/Flying, Chespin's being dumped...

So, Basically, your saying that Picking Chespin unless it has a really happy evolution? I'm sorry, but nowhere in my games does it say that "One must choose this pokemon if it appears happy". Just look at The Three Gen 1 pokemon. Everyone would have a really hard time not picking Charamander.


Oh... you meant the other kind of gay. Well, fine, but if Fennekin does turn into a Fire/fighting, I'm blaming you for making me lose 10 dollars.

[YellowHat's Revenge]

I feel like an evo would not be up to snuff. Dunsparce has this sort of... beautiful charm about him.

f Fennekin does turn into a Fire/fighting, I'm blaming you for making me lose 10 dollars.

Yea. How dare he.
Seriously, though. You bet 10 bucks? I'mma roflcopter when you lose that money.

[Froakling]

What if Froakie has high values at sp atk instead speed, or both i like that way

[Autis-misc]

I feel like an evo would not be up to snuff. Dunsparce has this sort of... beautiful charm about him.



Yea. How dare he.
Seriously, though. You bet 10 bucks? I'mma roflcopter when you lose that money.

Actually, I bet two people 5 bucks that all the final forms will be pure. I know I'm going to lose 10 bucks.

But I'm going to be straight up butthurt about it until the types get announced.

[firerank9]

I may have to trade for all the starters, they just look that awsome. Unless they do something that will enrage me, like make ANOTHER Fire/fighting evo or give Chespin a very frail evolution typing.

[YellowHat's Revenge]

Actually, I bet two people 5 bucks that all the final forms will be pure. I know I'm going to lose 10 bucks.

But I'm going to be straight up butthurt about it until the types get announced.

Aha. Well good job so far.

I may have to trade for all the starters, they just look that awsome. Unless they do something that will enrage me, like make ANOTHER Fire/fighting evo or give Chespin a very frail evolution typing.

What if- and I know this is preposterous, but hear me out- Fennekin is Fire/Fighting AND it's the most glorious looking thing you've ever seen. Still gonna be mad?

Seriously, everyone's all, "FIRE/FIGHTING'S NOT ORIGINAL I'M GONNA KILL ALL GAME FREAK WORKERS WITH MY RAGE FISTS". However, that said, it's all about how they pull it off. Do it right, and all the whiners are gonna have a hard time founding their arguments.
"Well, I KNOW it's really cool, but Fire/Fightinnnnnng. Guys, wait! Stop having fun! This sucks! Guiiiizzzze!..."

[KumaPanda]

It doesn't matter who I start with because I'm going to get them all for the pokedex. I still find myself attached to Fennekin at the moment, but you never know. I might change my mind by the time the game comes out.

[willda]

Aha. Well good job so far.



What if- and I know this is preposterous, but hear me out- Fennekin is Fire/Fighting AND it's the most glorious looking thing you've ever seen. Still gonna be mad?

Seriously, everyone's all, "FIRE/FIGHTING'S NOT ORIGINAL I'M GONNA KILL ALL GAME FREAK WORKERS WITH MY RAGE FISTS". However, that said, it's all about how they pull it off. Do it right, and all the whiners are gonna have a hard time founding their arguments.
"Well, I KNOW it's really cool, but Fire/Fightinnnnnng. Guys, wait! Stop having fun! This sucks! Guiiiizzzze!..."

I'll still love fennekin if she/he is gorgeous regardless of type, however if it becomes hideous even with fire/electric ( my preferred type combo) fire/psychic with amazing game breaking stats, I won't choose it, or if i did it would be the first starter I would refuse to evolve. I won't use pokemon I consider Ugly, (which is odd because I like ferrothorn alot :P) Blissy's looks are actually the only reason I hate it, but that's a story for another day!

[german suplex]

Aha. Well good job so far.



What if- and I know this is preposterous, but hear me out- Fennekin is Fire/Fighting AND it's the most glorious looking thing you've ever seen. Still gonna be mad?

Seriously, everyone's all, "FIRE/FIGHTING'S NOT ORIGINAL I'M GONNA KILL ALL GAME FREAK WORKERS WITH MY RAGE FISTS". However, that said, it's all about how they pull it off. Do it right, and all the whiners are gonna have a hard time founding their arguments.
"Well, I KNOW it's really cool, but Fire/Fightinnnnnng. Guys, wait! Stop having fun! This sucks! Guiiiizzzze!..."

I don't mind Fennekin being Fire/Fighting. What I hate more than Fire/Fighting is actually the starters being pure types, IMO at least. Not that I will be like, "Oh noezzz the final evozzz are all singlezzz typezzz, I'm not buying thiz crapzzzz Trollz Freakzz."

I love Pokemon, I love Game(Troll)*ahem Freak.

[YellowHat's Revenge]

Ah, yes, I can see that you're an Emboar sympathizer. I, too, like the fiery-bearded one.

Gotta say, though, still pulling for that Fire/Flying Fennekin evo.
You crazy kids have got me all in a tizzy for Water/Electric on Froakie's line.
And Chespin? I mean, he's awesome. Let the little dude evolve into whatever he wants, cos he can.


edit; dude, post #369. That's special. Not that I haven't hit that mark once before, but still.

[firerank9]

I don't mind Fennekin being Fire/Fighting. What I hate more than Fire/Fighting is actually the starters being pure types, IMO at least. Not that I will be like, "Oh noezzz the final evozzz are all singlezzz typezzz, I'm not buying thiz crapzzzz Trollz Freakzz."

I love Pokemon, I love Game(Troll)*ahem Freak.

Ok, Clarification time! It's not that I would hate another fire/fighting type, it just dose not seem right for Fennekin's final evoution. To me, foxes use intellegence and try to avoid fighting whenever possible.
Now, if Fennekin's final evolution looks great and has the fire/fighting type, I will still give Fennekin a try. After all, I originally was skeptical about Chimchar and his evolutions, untill I began Platinum with him as my starter that is.

[german suplex]

Ok, Clarification time! It's not that I would hate another fire/fighting type, it just dose not seem right for Fennekin's final evoution. To me, foxes use intellegence and try to avoid fighting whenever possible.
Now, if Fennekin's final evolution looks great and has the fire/fighting type, I will still give Fennekin a try. After all, I originally was skeptical about Chimchar and his evolutions, untill I began Platinum with him as my starter that is.

I know what you mean. Though I kinda have this feeling in my tummy that Fenne's line is gonna be pure Fire, or maybe because I hadn't eat since waking up.

Is it just me or does anyone else sees the Chespin's 'Hat' as a popular Pokemon merchandise in the future.

[carboncopy]

Is it just me or does anyone else sees the Chespin's 'Hat' as a popular Pokemon merchandise in the future.

I can see it become like the Pikachu ears ! That would be cool.

[charizard420]

i think froakies final evo will either be Water/ground, or Water/ Grass. I think Chespins final evo will be grass/ground, or pure grass. Fennekins final evo is gona be between fire/fighting, and just for a shot in the dark how about Fire/ Electric.

[XCRunner]

Hi evereyone I just had a crazy epiphany that is probably really stupid. Empoleon has numerous parallels to Napoleon. Serperior has parallels to Louis XIV. So could any of the new starters have connections to historical figures? I read a page or two back that Froakie resembles Ben Franklin and realized they might be crazily connected somehow. The fr in froakie seems a little random to me, so could it have been derived from FRanklin? Ben Franklin was also the ambassador to France and lived there for a super long time. The new region is supposedly based on France. See where I'm going here? Its probably the dumbest thing ive ever thought of but it makes just enough sense for it to be possible. Although Napoleon and Louis were far more French than Ben.... in any case though do you think any of the starters are connected to a historical figure? It seems there is a French trend going on with empoleon and serperior...

[fahademon]

I can see it become like the Pikachu ears ! That would be cool.

I can see Fennekin's ears becoming a popular merchandise in the future too. :P

[Super Nerd 7997]

Hi evereyone I just had a crazy epiphany that is probably really stupid. Empoleon has numerous parallels to Napoleon. Serperior has parallels to Louis XIV. So could any of the new starters have connections to historical figures? I read a page or two back that Froakie resembles Ben Franklin and realized they might be crazily connected somehow. The fr in froakie seems a little random to me, so could it have been derived from FRanklin? Ben Franklin was also the ambassador to France and lived there for a super long time. The new region is supposedly based on France. See where I'm going here? Its probably the dumbest thing ive ever thought of but it makes just enough sense for it to be possible. Although Napoleon and Louis were far more French than Ben.... in any case though do you think any of the starters are connected to a historical figure? It seems there is a French trend going on with empoleon and serperior...

If we get a Ben Franklin frog he should be part electric. And then I would have to change my answer, because Ben Franklin frog.

A while back I, too, said the fox better not be another fighting type. But then a friend of mine said "But if it is, you can name it Mozilla Firefox, teach it Hi Jump Kick, and laugh as it keeps going and crashes." So I think I might be okay with that if it learns Hi Jump Kick. But I'm feeling Fire/Psychic or plain Fire.

[Nyarlathotep]

I don't mind Fennekie's evo as a Fire/Fighting Pokémon, as long as its design is good.

Ah, this Froakie = Benjamin Franklin speculation is kinda... weird.
The only reference Empoleon had to Napoleon was the name, everything else was based on Poseidon/trident.

I don't see (and I don't want) Froakie having more than a name reference to Benjamin lol

[fahademon]

Froakie=Benjamin Franklin?WTF?O_o
You cant base things off names.>_>

[elorasheppard]

I hope that they dont do a BW/BW2 on us and make us beat the first gym before we can trade. I want all three starters on my team this time. Im having a hard time picking a favourite.

Im actually hoping for pure types this time as it will be quite a refreshing challenge. My first playthrough of gold with a chikorita all those years ago was quite hard for 10 year old me.