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[Froakin' Koga]

Do you see cradily having any use? And although grass helps mitigate the added water and ground weaknesses, you are giving chespin a weakness to one of the most used types in most tiers, although it does make a suggestion towards a high defense, hence my doedicurus theory, but I was saying that would have steel/ground as a secondary type.

I hope for a fast physical attacker with grass fighting type, or bulky tank with ground or steel with a secondary type, and even though it is less competitive defensively, I'd prefer ground on a defensive version.

Then Chespin would be Torterra. Lets forget about defense for a moment and look at attack. With Stab rock he can actually stand up against ice, fire, flying, and bugs. Things that no other grass starter could manage. His only true threat would be steel and fighting. and im sure a nice movepool can help that. GF will not go through Torterra again and i would rather see an offensive grass/rock than a defensive grass/steel imo

[Ghosts of the Forums]

I would not mind something like this: Evo fan art and he made a sprite of it too: Sprite If it has to go ground or rock I would pick ground. As long as it goes along with this kinda style.

I guess it's ok, reminds me of Ttar. And maybe it should be a second stage instead of final evo.

Then Chespin would be Torterra. Lets forget about defense for a moment and look at attack. With Stab rock he can actually stand up against ice, fire, flying, and bugs. Things that no other grass starter could manage. His only true threat would be steel and fighting. and im sure a nice movepool can help that. GF will not go through Torterra again and i would rather see an offensive grass/rock than a defensive grass/steel imo

True, true. That could be nice. Although I really hope for fighting, you have changed my mind about rock.

[willda]

Do you see cradily having any use? And although grass helps mitigate the added water and ground weaknesses, you are giving chespin a weakness to one of the most used types in most tiers(If you are talking about Fighting It would already have this with steel), although it does make a suggestion towards a high defense, hence my doedicurus theory, but I was saying that would have steel/ground as a secondary type.

I hope for a fast physical attacker with grass fighting type, or bulky tank with ground or steel with a secondary type, and even though it is less competitive defensively, I'd prefer ground on a defensive version.

Well I have actually seen cradily be effective on some stall and bulky teams it could even be used last gen in the OU, but that arguement is pointless too, but I do agree that steel is the preferred typing should be grass/steel IMO steel is the best partner type for grass as it covers 80% of grasses weaknesses, while also have the immunity to leech seed, while using it's own leech seed as a viable means of recovery, something most steel types lack, But I just had to disagree with grass/rock being a "stupid" type, a stupid type would be Normal by itself or, since we are talking about starters, Grass/bug would be suicide and grass/Ice is also asking for trouble without a decent ability.

[Froakin' Koga]

I dont know why i cant get into grass/steel... I just think Game Freak wont go with the walling grass again. I also think that they will pass on the grass/steel this generation since we JUST had Ferrothorn and it pretty much was the ideal grass/steel. like Cradily with an upgrade. I think they will go offensive with chespin. and rock is the perfect match to make that happen

[EliJolesy]

I would not mind something like this: Evo fan art and he made a sprite of it too: Sprite If it has to go ground or rock I would pick ground. As long as it goes along with this kinda style.

See my problem with Chespin is I ain't got a clue where the heck he's going. I mean Fennekin is gonna be a fox one way of another and Froakie is gonna be a frog. That I know and it makes me feel less nervous about which one I'm gonna pick. But I can't do that with Chespin. I ain't got clue WHAT he is. That picture is the first one that makes sense

[X Rat]

Chespin is a hedgehog, which is made clear by his name in every other language except English (for some reason).

[Flame Haji]

See my problem with Chespin is I ain't got a clue where the heck he's going. I mean Fennekin is gonna be a fox one way of another and Froakie is gonna be a frog. That I know and it makes me feel less nervous about which one I'm gonna pick. But I can't do that with Chespin. I ain't got clue WHAT he is. That picture is the first one that makes sense

Ya he is a hedgehog, so I would think spikes and stuff that looks along the lines of a hedgehog.

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

Chespin is a hedgehog, which is made clear by his name in every other language except English (for some reason).

The thing is, will it stay a hedgehog? I believe it will. Seems no reason not.

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

Chespin is a hedgehog, which is made clear by his name in every other language except English (for some reason).

I guess the 'pin' part kind does the trick.

I agree with Froakin' Koga that Chespin will go offensive, hopefully Grass/Ground or even /Dark.

[X Rat]

"Pin" could refer to a number of animals, porcupine, for one.

Edit P.S.: (Actually, pin would not necessarily need to refer to anything other than a pin). Knowing what he is, the name works, but I bet forums in other languages do not have the majority of uninitiated posters asking what he is.

[Froakin' Koga]

The thing is, will it stay a hedgehog? I believe it will. Seems no reason not.

Charmander the Salamander became a freaking Dragon. Remoraid turned into a freaking Octopus for no explained reason. anythings possible

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

Charmander the Salamander became a freaking Dragon. Remoraid turned into a freaking Octopus for no explained reason. anythings possible

Yea, I remember Remoraid's situation. Charmander's situation was believable since they're both reptiles.

[Zix Serro]

Still kinda hoping for the grass/dark, fire/psychic, water/fighting typing as they evolve. Am I the only one? That way each starter has a STAB advantage against the other two, which would be brilliant, imo...

[X Rat]

Charmander, if anything, is based on a mythological "salamander". He does not even really resemble an actual salamander (which is, I believe, a variety of amphibian).

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

Charmander the Salamander became a freaking Dragon. Remoraid turned into a freaking Octopus for no explained reason. anythings possible

Actually, Remoraid and Octillery are based of off artillary and weaponry or something along those lines.

[EliJolesy]

Ya he is a hedgehog, so I would think spikes and stuff that looks along the lines of a hedgehog.

See I don't see the hedgehog. He needs more spikes seems to me...

[X Rat]

Well, the thing everyone thinks is a hat is actually connected to his back. That is where his spikes will be most likely. (Already has a few)

[Froakin' Koga]

Yea, I remember Remoraid's situation. Charmander's situation was believable since they're both reptiles.

Yes reptiles. one a mythical flying, fire spitting beast, but a reptile nonetheless. And somehow Charmeleon the Chameleon actually tied them together nicely. I guess if feebas can become beautiful and magically transform into a water worm then alright lol

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

See I don't see the hedgehog. He needs more spikes seems to me...

He'll get them when he evolves, no doubt. His tail is the main spike that I see.

[Zix Serro]

Isn't Chespin supposed to be based off of some early mammal from prehistoric times? I thought I saw that somewhere...