Starter Speculation/Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[Hero of Ideals]

All three starters look good but I'd like to see new mixtures of types instead of the same old fire /fighting which has gone on for three gens now. I'd like to see froakie pure water all through its evolutions. Fennekin I'd like to see fire/electric form it's final type. Chespin I'd like to see grass/ground for final evolution. Whatever happens I'm still gonna play this next game.

They been comfirmed to be pure Fire, water, grass so no second typing for any of them.

[ebevan91]

I found this image on the internet, hinting it will be a bug/psychic/fight trio secondary types. Does anyone here know if this source is official? Because I don't know who wrote this.

http://i.imgur.com/znTZF.jpg

EDIT: Googled the magazine and it's unofficial.

How do you get bug out of Pin Missile? According to the Serebii move page, Qwilfish, Zigzagoon, Jolteon, Cacnea, Cacturne, and Roselia learn Pin Missile. None of those are bugs.

[pokedons]

They been comfirmed to be pure Fire, water, grass so no second typing for any of them.

the confirmation was for the first evolutionary form as in them there selves not their evolutions

[DSDark]

They been comfirmed to be pure Fire, water, grass so no second typing for any of them.

No that's just the first stages. We have no idea of their evolutions will get a second type.

[pokedons]

i think the final stages of the starters will be grass/dark, fire/psychic and water/ice because then they all have a type super effective against each other

[MidnightFennekin]

SOme contreversial rumors spreading around my local area;

The Region is called Voria, which comes from variety. It's split into many sub-regions, based on different parts of europe, each with at least one gym and 4 settlements The France based area has a City based on Paris called Pardite (Seems to come from Paris and the Greek Love Goddess Aphrodite.) with a grass type Gym Leader, who uses a new Pokemon called Bonjui, the grape Pokemon, and a more masculine counterpart of Cherubi. Cherrim has a new evoloution, un named at the moment. It's pretty humanoid and has a drastic gender diffrence.

Fennekin has the abilities Blaze and a the new ability Latent Power, a psychic version of Blaze. It's the Cute Fox Pokemon.

At level 18, it evolves into Kindread, a Fire/Psychic pokemon with the same abilities, and the new attack Dreaded Wand, An attack which switches type depending on the last defeated opponent. It os the Corrupted Fox Pokemon.

At level 30, Kindread evolves into Monarkin, Fire/Psychic with the same abilities. If the Blazing Crown item is hel by it, Special Attacks have their base power increased by 20. It is the Redeemed Fox pokemon.

Chespin is the Spine Burrow pokemon, with the abilities Overgrow and Dark Lash, a dark type overgrow.

At level 16, It evolves into Shadge, with the same abilities, and the new move Demon Thorn, which is effectively a dark type version of spikes. It is the Darkspine Burrow Pokemon.

At level 32, It evolves into Demine (I like it because it sound like Demon+Mine or Demon+Spine) and when it holds the item Devil's Thorn, Status moves effects lasts an extra three turns. It is the Monster Burrow Pokemon.

Froakkie is the Foam pokemon, with the abilities Torrent and Determination (The Fighting type torrent).

At level 14 evolves into Toadox, a Water/Fighting type, the Fury Pokemon and has the new move Fury Fists, an attack that hits targets its not very effective on twice.

At level 36 It evolves into Warog, a Water/Fighting ype, the Swift Fury Pokemon and if it holds the Droplet Gloves, Physical attacks never miss.

Both Yvetal, Xerneas and a third Pokemon called Zavon (weird name) are all the Balance Pokemon. Xerneas representing birth, Yvetal death and Zavon life itself.

Xerneas is a Electric//Ice type, and is found in the Frosted Woods in the Scandinavian sub-region. It has the ability Cross Power Y, and if it's hit by a fire attack, It will change into it's Y form, where the Xs on its body mutate into Ys and gains a red colour. In this form it has the ability Cross Power X, which changes it back to normal after being hit by a Electric Type Attack. It's also Ice/Fire type in this form, and it's physical stats are greatly raised. If it hold the Z Gene Item, It gets the ability Cross Power Z.

Yvetal is a Fire/Flying Type, and is found in the Pinnacle Labs in the South-Western Europe sub-region. It has the ability Cross Power X, so it changes into X form after being hit by and electric attack.where it's tail splits into two, and Yvetal turns blue. In this form it gains the ability Cross Power Y, and it turns back to normal if hit by a Ice attack. It's Electric/Flying in this form. In this form, it's special stats are higher. If it holds the Z gene, it becomes, It gets the ability Cross Power Z.

Zavon is a Water/Ground Type, and is found in the Abandoned rig, which is found off the coast of a Uk based sub-region. It has cross Power Z, so if hit by both a Fire and Ice attack in the same battle, it changes into the all powerful XY form, where it has Cross Power Ultra, which forces a form change if it defeats a Yvetal, Xerneas or a Zavon. In XY form, it has many Xs and Ys across its body. It is a Fire/Electric type. Zavon looks like a sea serpent.


Personally, I believe that thes starters are to good to be true, but if this does happen than I'm ditching the Z legend and the bloody grape.

[clarkey_2000]

i think the final stages of the starters will be grass/dark, fire/psychic and water/ice because then they all have a type super effective against each other

if that were to happen it would be the other way round so if grass was dark too fire would be fighting too (i hope not though)

[pokedons]

if that were to happen it would be the other way round so if grass was dark too fire would be fighting too (i hope not though)

no it wouldn't because IF chespin evolution is grass/dark then its dark would be super effective to (if fennekin evolution is fire/psychic) fennekins evolutions psychic type and then with (IF froakies evolution was part ice) froakie evolutions have the ice type that would be super effective to chespins evolutions grass and weak to fennekins evolutions fire

[DarkSword39]

I'll probably chose Froakie.
I hope GameFreak does something Fennekin so it's not a clone of Vulpix.
At first I thought Chespin was a chipmunk/squirrel.

[Terror Of Master]

Froakie is the best

[MastersOfMonsters]

Those rumors sounds interesting, and similar to another recent rumor. Not sure how much I like it, but if it's true (which I doubt), It'd be interesting.

[DarkManager]

Zavon is a Water/Ground Type, and is found in the Abandoned rig, which is found off the coast of a Uk based sub-region. It has cross Power Z, so if hit by both a Fire and Ice attack in the same battle, it changes into the all powerful XY form, where it has Cross Power Ultra, which forces a form change if it defeats a Yvetal, Xerneas or a Zavon. In XY form, it has many Xs and Ys across its body. It is a Fire/Electric type. Zavon looks like a sea serpent.

No XX form? That's sexist

[WaterMasterDD]

If those rumours are true, then Zavon sounds pretty cool and I'd be happy with a new water legendary type - it would also make sense with the whole Electric/Fire/Water legendary trio, in a similar manner to the legendary dogs. Also, the starters sound awesome! But I'm confused by the dual-abilities...?

[Hidden Power]

Rumours? Sounds more like fan ideas to me. Whoever came up with it tried to stick to the game tradition while injecting multiple fanciful changes here and there, which I would hardly expect to happen at all.

[MidnightJewel]

If those rumours are true, then Zavon sounds pretty cool and I'd be happy with a new water legendary type - it would also make sense with the whole Electric/Fire/Water legendary trio, in a similar manner to the legendary dogs. Also, the starters sound awesome! But I'm confused by the dual-abilities...?

He just means DW abilities. Like instead of getting Prankster or something as a dream world, then they would get a blaze/overgrow/torrent but with their secondary types.

[ArmyOfOneIX]

I wouldnt mind if it was true seems legit. Froakie line sounds so bosss.

[D!3g0]

Rumours? Sounds more like fan ideas to me. Whoever came up with it tried to stick to the game tradition while injecting multiple fanciful changes here and there, which I would hardly expect to happen at all.

I wouldn't mind an evolution for Cherrim, though :B

[awesomeness149]

How do you get bug out of Pin Missile? According to the Serebii move page, Qwilfish, Zigzagoon, Jolteon, Cacnea, Cacturne, and Roselia learn Pin Missile. None of those are bugs.

my karrablast knows pin missile its a bug type

[awesomeness149]

I wouldn't mind an evolution for Cherrim, though :B

if u want to talk about that stuff go to dexspeculation in the pokemon x and y section

[MastersOfMonsters]

Oh! Chespin is now leading over Froakie! :3 This is exciting.

If only Fannykin wasn't so very far away. ^^