Starter Speculation/Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[BurningWhiteKyurem]

i think he is EASILY able to be grass/dark
grass/fighting is just dumb for him...
it doesn't make any sense

To be fair, we can't really say what types don't make sense for Chespin. It's base design doesn't tell us enough about what its 1st and 2nd stage theme is going to be. It has as much a chance of being grass/dark, as it does grass/fighting and even grass/ground.
(Remember Tepig? How much people thought it would be pure-fire, fire/dark, fire/ground?...Lo and behold we got fire/fighting)

[Akanjão]

Definitely agree with Nacreous.
And i laughed about the Frog Pic, haha!!

My opinion on starters is that;
Chespin: Grass/Fighting or Grass/Steel, the first one is my preference.

Fennekin: Fire/Psychic or Fire/Normal (?). I think it's have a high chance to be Fire/Psychic too. Do we have any Fire/Psychic pokemon, though?

Froakie: Water/Dark or Pure Water. I don't see him being Water/Flying, more a Water/Dark or Pure Water pokemon. But it also depends of it's last stage. Could a Big Frog Fly?

Can those "Speculations" be true? Whe'll discover when Freakgame release any information! And when she desires! Oh, how great this can be!

i think he is EASILY able to be grass/dark
grass/fighting is just dumb for him...
it doesn't make any sense

Why? I think he is EASILY able to be Grass/Fighting. Grass/Dark is just dumb for him...

Chespin. It's base design doesn't tell us enough about what its 1st and 2nd stage theme is going to be. It has as much a chance of being grass/dark, as it does grass/fighting and even grass/ground.
(Remember Tepig? How much people thought it would be pure-fire, fire/dark, fire/ground?...Lo and behold we got fire/fighting)

This. Definitely. They can be anything, really.

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

Do we have any Fire/Psychic pokemon, though?

Yes and no. There's Victini, but it's Psychic/Fire.

[GerudoPrince]

Yes and no. There's Victini, but it's Psychic/Fire.

And Darmanitan Zen Mode, which doesn't count imo.

Wooo! Come on Fennekin!

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

And Darmanitan Zen Mode, which doesn't count imo.

Wooo! Come on Fennekin!

Why the hell do I keep forgetting Darmanitan? xD Well, thanks for reminding me.

[rocky505]

i think he is EASILY able to be grass/dark
grass/fighting is just dumb for him...
it doesn't make any sense

And what exactly points to Chespin evos being Grass/Dark? Don't mention the moves that it used since that is the only thing people seem to look at now. Plus we don't even know what that move was.

[Luxvan]

Fennekin-Fire/Poison-based on radiation--it shines brightly like the sun,yet it's a very unstable and dangerous pokemon.It's proud and has to be praised constantly.Based also on the bipolar disorder,one minute,it's warm and lovely,the next,it destroys everything.

HP 70
Atk 62
Def 73
SpAtk 126
SpDef 95
Speed 109 BST=535 Great Special sweeper

Ya know, I was hoping Fennekin would look like this as well.
Poison is garbage, though (pun intended).

[Firebrand]

I could kind of see Chesepin working as a grass steel type, though I prefer grass dark.

If it was grass steel, it would no doubt be faster than Ferrothorn, giving it that edge (who knows, maybe even a sweeper ala Scizor). I could see it as packing a big punch like Aggron, but lighter and a bit faster than most of it's steel ilk.

The thing is, both grass steel and grass dark are combos we've had before. Shiftry and Ferrothorn are both very good pokemon in their own right, and Shiftry at least is both strong physically and and rather quick. Chesepin would need something special to set it apart from that. Or, you know, so I should hope.

[pokemonsquared]

Fans should never be allowed to influence the making of pokemon. All they know how to do with stats is specialization instead of being realistic. Not every sweeper is going to have high speed and an attack. The movesets are also far too good.

[Yveltal96]

Fans should never be allowed to influence the making of pokemon. All they know how to do with stats is specialization instead of being realistic. Not every sweeper is going to have high speed and an attack. The movesets are also far too good.

actually most pokemon have the stats to fit that sweeper role or stalling role
it's realistic
and the movesets i'm seeing aren't unrealistic
there are more way OP movesets out there

[Cyrius]

actually most pokemon have the stats to fit that sweeper role or stalling role
it's realistic
and the movesets i'm seeing aren't unrealistic
there are more way OP movesets out there

Thats what I said About Danphan, but apparently it can Learn Ice Shard (WTF?!) so maybe you should take it under consideration

[Yveltal96]

Thats what I said About Danphan, but apparently it can Learn Ice Shard (WTF?!) so maybe you should take it under consideration

that's not what i meant
he was saying unrealistic as in they were too OP

[SuperDaikenki]

There a bunch of moves hat pokémon should've learned but can't. But I have a feeling that either Froakie or Chespin will get the short end of the stick

[^Cutty^]

All my ideas about the starters:

Chespin - grass/steel (third evolution) (lv17 - lv32) - learn Iron Head (lv32 - only steel type move by level up), Needle Arm (lv26), a new physical priority grass type (BP:40) (lv18), Stun Spore (lv10), no leech seed, absord and mega/giga drain by level up. Slowest gen6 starter, great attack and defense, good special attack, bad special defense and speed. In the third evolution the tail becomes a steel orange ball with a lot of green spikes (remember a chestnut). Unlike the official artwork, has a angry personality, it has some kind of problem with it's tail and spikes, can not control it very good.

Fennekin - fire/psyquic (lv14 - lv36) - learn Psywave (lv14), Extrasensory (lv35), Flame Burst (lv25), doesn't learn flamethrower by level up, Heat Wave (lv41). Fastest gen6 starter, biggest special attack of all starters, lowest fire starter attack stat, bad defense, good special defense and average HP. The third evolution is quadruped, lot of fire in the tail, the eyes has a strong red color, like flames are burning inside, has a feminine design but the face looks angry. Has a quiet personality, but likes to be the center of attention, likes to expose the others weakness.

Froakie - water/fighting (lv16 - lv36) - learn bubble (lv6), water gun (lv10), Force Palm (lv16), Icy Wind (lv24) Sky Uppercut (lv36), no aqua jet/water sport/ aqua tail. Fastest water type starter, great attack and speed, good special defense and HP, bad defense and special attack. The third evolution has a cloud in the wrist that glows yellow (energy) when it's fight, can storage energy and absorb poison inside, the eyes still big, some dark blue lines in the arms, has a cloud in the back that can storage a lot of different itens. Very imposing, not slim, not fat, is the tallest gen6 starter final evolution. Amazing personality, very classy, inteligent, funny just being itself, always keep a book in the cloud on it's back, loves to read, likes the silence.

Yveltal - Flying/Dark
Xerneas - Rock/Grass
Sylveon - Flying
The other Eevee evolution is Ground.

I like Fennekin being Fire/Psychic, do we have one already? Although it doesnt seem to be one.
Xerneas is more Grass/normal or Psychic/Grass.

[Rayze Darr]

I like Fennekin being Fire/Psychic, do we have one already? Although it doesnt seem to be one.
Xerneas is more Grass/normal or Psychic/Grass.

Victini is Fire/Psychic, so we don't have a non-event or non-Legendary Pokemon of that combination.

I also don't see anything Grass in Xerneas at all. Where y'all getting this "Grass" nonsense?

[Wulava]

Victini is Fire/Psychic, so we don't have a non-event or non-Legendary Pokemon of that combination.

I also don't see anything Grass in Xerneas at all. Where y'all getting this "Grass" nonsense?

Probably from the vibe of nature because of the gameplay trailer.
Or probably because of the influence of Sawsbuck.

But I agree. The design doesn't scream "Grass" at all.
But then again, one can argue that a Pokemon can represent a type that even if its design doesn't reflect any of that.

[rocky505]

Victini is Fire/Psychic, so we don't have a non-event or non-Legendary Pokemon of that combination.

Yes we do....



Darmanitan Zen Mode.

[Rayze Darr]

Yes we do....



Darmanitan Zen Mode.

Right, that thing gets even uglier. I forgot... /derp

[Nacreous]

Ya know, I was hoping Fennekin would look like this as well.
Poison is garbage, though (pun intended).

Yeah,it is...but it's a unique type combination.And it resists 7 types...two of wich are double resistances[Grass and Bug].It's pretty good defensively.And offensively,Fire is already one of the best offensive types.

Hey guys...doesn't Fennekin's tail look like a bulb that's about to bloom?I think it might be indication that,upon evolution,its tail might split into more.It actually looks a lot like a lotus bulb http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3572/3...9fe_z.jpg?zz=1 http://www.kleptography.com/images-lotus/crw_1806.jpg The same could be said about its ear fluffs.

Here's some stuff about the spiritual meaning of the lotus flower http://www.cosmiclotus.org/article-m...fthelotus1.php If indeed its tail and ears are lotuses,then Fire/Psychic is almost 100% guaranteed.

[GenosectArceus]

Yeah,it is...but it's a unique type combination.And it resists 7 types...two of wich are double resistances[Grass and Bug].It's pretty good defensively.And offensively,Fire is already one of the best offensive types.

Hey guys...doesn't Fennekin's tail look like a bulb that's about to bloom?I think it might be indication that,upon evolution,its tail might split into more.It actually looks a lot like a lotus bulb http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3572/3...9fe_z.jpg?zz=1 http://www.kleptography.com/images-lotus/crw_1806.jpg The same could be said about its ear fluffs.

Here's some stuff about the spiritual meaning of the lotus flower http://www.cosmiclotus.org/article-m...fthelotus1.php If indeed its tail and ears are lotuses,then Fire/Psychic is almost 100% guaranteed.

Although the fine furs do colllect as a bulb-like shape, I wouldn't think it's 100%guaranteed. What is the spiritual meaning of the blooming of a lotus flower? If it guarantees the plant has psychic abilities, than maybe it'll guarantee Fennekin has Psychic abilities. Otherwise, we won't really know.

[VanityEgo]

Or maybe that Lotus is a reference to Christina Aguilera's last album... Which would therefore make Fennekin's final evolution a Sound type!!

/troll

[Nacreous]

Or maybe that Lotus is a reference to Christina Aguilera's last album... Which would therefore make Fennekin's final evolution a Sound type!!

/troll

Sound/Cow type...

[Rayze Darr]

Sound/Cow type...

Cow type would be cool. Miltank and Tauros could become Cow/Normal, giving them a bit more originality.

*ahem*

I've always liked the idea of Starters going in reverse type-advantage for their secondaries. I know that Dark/Psychic/Fighting is a nearly perfect type triangle (all good, except that Dark is immune to Psychic), so a Dark Chespin, Psychic Fennekin and Fighting Froakie could work in that regard (though I'm still hellbent that Froakie will be Flying). Anything else that could work with this that one could see these starters being?

[VanityEgo]

I kinda like the idea of a Poliwrath with better stats... But then again if they're gonna do that, I'd rather they boost Poliwrath's stats lol and really give Froakie some original typing.

Rock / Fighting / Flying seems to be a perfect triangle to me... But then we'd have a couple x4 weakness possibilities and nobody wants that to happen.

[Rayze Darr]

I kinda like the idea of a Poliwrath with better stats... But then again if they're gonna do that, I'd rather they boost Poliwrath's stats lol and really give Froakie some original typing.

Rock / Fighting / Flying seems to be a perfect triangle to me... But then we'd have a couple x4 weakness possibilities and nobody wants that to happen.

Froakie: Water/Flying
Chespin: Grass/Fighting
Fennekin: Fire/Rock

It seems like a perfect 2-way triangle, yeah. Alas, Fennekin doesn't strike me as particularly... rocky.