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[Wintendo]

Don't try and guess the names. Those who name them have far more experience than us, and can actually base it on the designs. We cannot, because we now get the names when they are revealed.

[DarkSword39]

You have sealed your fate. Prepare for disaster.
It sounds odd, but I've been around since FireRed but my first personal game was White. I played it to death then sold it to buy a bookshelf. I regretted it some, but I feel fine now because of X and Y and besides, I have all my best pokes on my bro's copy.

Chespin could be pure grass, but I think he will be GRS/FGT or GRS/DRK
Froakie may also be just water( there will likely be at least one monotype, as always. Barring Sinnoh) but could have a FGT type attached, but only if Chespin is monotype.

I sealed my fate by getting the game. I didn't prepare for a disaster because I didn't know it was SO bad. Almost all the Pokemon were copied from the originals, guess which the best, the ORIGINALS of course.
Zubat, Woobat they even sound the same!

[Aurath8]

My prediction:

Chespin - Grass/Dark

Fennekin - Fire/Psychic

Froakie - Water/Fighting

That way, the Grass/Fire/Water cycle will be in effect, but ALSO, in reverse the Psychic/Fighting/Dark cycle.

I'm just guessing based off of each poke's second move in the trailer, Chespin looked like Night Slash, Fennekin looked like Psywave, Froakie looked like some type of fighting move (Close Combat?!)

No offence, but this has been speculated about 1024 times before. For the record, Chespin's move was almost certainly Aerial Ace. Go look at it's Gen 5 animation. imo I think Froakie's move was Acrobatics. They definitely sound very similar.

And seriously, there are other type triangles besides the Psychic/Dark/Fighting triangle that people seem to force on the starters every generation. Gen 4 achieved the same effect with Fighting, Steel and Ground. For example we could have Fire/Psychic, Water/Poison and Grass/Rock(I see that leaf hood becoming Chestnut armour).

I sealed my fate by getting the game. I didn't prepare for a disaster because I didn't know it was SO bad. Almost all the were copied from the originals, guess which the best, the ORIGINALS of course.
Zubat, Woobat they even sound the same!

There were about 9 evolution lines in the game that bore resemblance to old pokemon. All of them, through stats and design managed to differentiate themselves from their counterparts in earlier generations. Woobat is part Psychic type and can kick butt with Calm Mind and Simple. Alomomola actually has decent stats unlike Luvdisc. Bouffalant focuses more on Defences than Tauros with speed. Jellicent is part Ghost which is a completely different type to Tentacruel's Water/Poison in terms of weaknesses/resistances. By this point, calling them mere copies is an exaggeration.

[DarkSword39]

No offence, but this has been speculated about 1024 times before. For the record, Chespin's move was almost certainly Aerial Ace. Go look at it's Gen 5 animation. imo I think Froakie's move was Acrobatics. They definitely sound very similar.

And seriously, there are other type triangles besides the Psychic/Dark/Fighting triangle that people seem to force on the starters every generation. Gen 4 achieved the same effect with Fighting, Steel and Ground. For example we could have Fire/Psychic, Water/Poison and Grass/Rock(I see that leaf hood becoming Chestnut armour).



There were about 9 evolution lines in the game that bore resemblance to old pokemon. All of them, through stats and design managed to differentiate themselves from their counterparts in earlier generations. Woobat is part Psychic type and can kick butt with Calm Mind and Simple. Alomomola actually has decent stats unlike Luvdisc. Bouffalant focuses more on Defences than Tauros with speed. Jellicent is part Ghost which is a completely different type to Tentacruel's Water/Poison in terms of weaknesses/resistances. By this point, calling them mere copies is an exaggeration.

Let me reword this, REPLACEMENTS. That doesn't really mean that they are good.
Roggenrola=Geodude
Woobat=Zubat
Machop=Timburr
Poliwag=Tympole
Tentacool=Frillish
I might even play Black again, to see if it is even CLOSE to my expectations.

[Ghosts of the Forums]

And seriously, there are other type triangles besides the Psychic/Dark/Fighting triangle that people seem to force on the starters every generation. Gen 4 achieved the same effect with Fighting, Steel and Ground. For example we could have Fire/Psychic, Water/Poison and Grass/Rock(I see that leaf hood becoming Chestnut armour).

A reason I and many others think hell be a knight.

Oh sure, the one ****ing time I want auto-corrections to add an apostrophe, of course it doesn't. .-.

[Ungoliath]

I like the Water/Poison typing more than Water/Fighting in terms of usability, but let me ask why you think Froakie resembles or hints a Poison type?

[Feralninja]

Let me reword this, REPLACEMENTS. That doesn't really mean that they are good.
Roggenrola=Geodude
Woobat=Zubat
Machop=Timburr
Poliwag=Tympole
Tentacool=Frillish
I might even play Black again, to see if it is even CLOSE to my expectations.

The simplest explanation for this is to look at it from a real-world biological standpoint. Because Unova is so far from the other regions, obviously other species will come into to fill the ecological niches the species on the other side of the world would. The Woobat line serves the same function as the cave-dwelling Zubat family, as does the Machop line with Timburr, and literally every other one you mentioned. They represent a certain part of the ecosystem, serving as predator or prey for the species they coexist with. Take the jungles of the Indian subcontinent and the Amazon. Similar climes, as Unova has to the other four regions, namely Kanto. The same species don't exist, but there are species that serve the same function.

The whole similarities thing was done intentionally, and I don't see why people have such a hard time understanding that. For the last time, GF was not and is currently not "running out of ideas". They put a lot of research into these games, observing the way real world animals interact with their environments to create the best possible roster of pokemon for the world they develop.

... says the guy who's been playing since Red version, and has as much right as anyone to be a genwunner, but is not. Because Gen V was really a masterstroke, whether a certain subset of the fandom believes it or not. The only real flaw of BW was the linearity of the gameplay, but even that was fixed in BW2.

[Ungoliath]

I agree with the SECOND statement. I feel like they wanted to appeal to younger kids who haven't played Pokemon already.
For those who've played Pokemon since Gold/Silver. They were pretty disappointed, like me.
However, Black2/White2 helped the DISASTER Black/White caused in my heart.

I played since Red/Blue and I did not felt any disappointment.

Of course, I'm not a hipster and a nostalgic person and every gen GF delivers me with at least 5 Pokemon which I absolutely adore. After all, you don't have to catch'em all.

[Ungoliath]

Chespin, Chesclaw, Chesfang.
Fennekin... That's all I got.

Chespin, Cheskin, Chesknight :O

[Yveltal96]

why is everyone so stuck on him becoming a knight?
i kinda just want him to be a mole lol

[ShadeAce]

why is everyone so stuck on him becoming a knight?
i kinda just want him to be a mole lol

A mole knight.

[Yveltal96]

mmm idk that implies him being part steel which ik everyone wants that but i really don't
i just want him to resemble excadrill in a way (minus the steel)

[Papousse]

why is everyone so stuck on him becoming a knight?
i kinda just want him to be a mole lol

Because it's more interesting to see something cool on a Pokémon than being a normal animal.
It's more fun to see Torchic becoming a fighting strange sort of thin chicken than being a chicken.

[Yveltal96]

hmmmm i guesss so but he best not be steel type

[Shadow♠]

hmmmm i guesss so but he best not be steel type

I want him to be Grass/Steel.

[Papousse]

I want him to be Grass/Steel.

Me too. What it does if so ?

[Yveltal96]

opinions tend to differ we're human
but idk i still really like the grass/dark idea seems legit

[Wintendo]

I have no idea what the starters may look like, but they won't be any of these things.

[Yveltal96]

you're optimistic
and says who u aren't game freak producer
it's called speculation for a reason bro

[KumaPanda]

opinions tend to differ we're human
but idk i still really like the grass/dark idea seems legit

I want Chespin to be a knight like pokemon and be a dark type. Then I can say "he is the night".