View Poll Results: Which starter would you use?

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  • Chespin

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  • Fennekin

    1,329 42.19%
  • Froakie

    849 26.95%
  • NONE, Dunsparce looks better

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenosectArceus View Post
    Guys! Not every final evo of every starter need to have a second typing! I'd like Froakie to be Water/Fighting or Water/Electric, but if it's pure Water, I'll still be faithful to it and pick it.
    Samurott was okay being Water type, it still had a bamf design! And it kills RU sand teams.
    Sceptile didn't need a secondary typing because it still is a viable Pokemon for OU
    Yeah, but personally, I usually prefer double typed starters to single typed ones, since two types usually give a pokemon a much wider movepool. So many of us are hoping that our favorite starters get secondary types.

    Also, isn't sand banned in RU?

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    I see Froakie becoming pure water, Chespin becoming grass/ground or grass/rock and Fennekin becoming fire/psychic, fire/dark, or fire/ghost (hopefully fire/dark or fire ghost because they sound much more interesting than fire/psychic).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightFennekin View Post
    I stand corrected. But I still think it's a non damaging move. We didn't hear Kirlia getting hurt unlike the other attacks, and the fact Kirlia looks like it's getting damaged is probably due to the game isn't finished.
    Actually Kirlia was most definitely taking damage. When we see Parting Shot, a non-damaging move, Gogoat does not flinch
    Kirlia does, so it was definitely a damaging (psychic) move.
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    so whats the news that smash showed saturday??? if any
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergenator View Post
    so whats the news that smash showed saturday??? if any
    I don't think you need to post this in more than one thread.
    There was no news they just reviewed stuff we already know, none of it pertaining to the starters
    Don't expect anything new on the starters anytime soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiddsy View Post
    Except everything about it and it's names in every language point to hedgehogs? While fairly closely related to the gymnures, which look very much like basal mammals (except, you know, not being monotremes), hedgehogs are pretty well differentiated.

    Like most species that use rollout, it's because Chespin can roll into a ball, like the hedgehog and chestnuts he is based upon. Cyndaquil can learn rollout by level up. As can Voltorb. And Miltank. And Qwilfish. And Solosis. What they have in common is that they are either spherical or can roll up into a sphere. (Spheal DOESN'T get rollout by level up - but they do get ice ball, which is basically rollout with an ice typing) -- In fact, it's the vast minority of those that can learn rollout that are rock types. The fact it learns rollout reinforces the idea that it is a hedgehog, capable of rolling up into a spiny ball.

    Rollout really does not suggest a rock typing for Chespin - I would be more shocked if it DIDN'T get rollout, based on the species it's based on.

    You pose a good point with the Rollout thing. Actually, the relevance between it learning Rollout and being able to curl up into a ball seemed to have escaped me; I should have remembered that it appears to be based off of a hedgehog.

    Charmander learns Metal Claw, but doesn't become a steel type, so the same could go for Chespin. But personally, I really don't see it going through the game and not becoming part ground like Torterra.

    But then again, I was also sadly mistaken when Samurott didn't become part fighting... Which is actually kind of irksome, but I'm sure that they had their reasons, just like they don't allow some Pokémon to learn certain moves even though it would seem like it would make sense that the Pokémon would be able to learn it.

    But, also, did you happen to come across my list of Pokémon that don't follow their themes through and through? It's the majority of the starters, actually. It was an entire tidbit explaining that a Pokémon does not have to be one thing exactly, but can be loosely based off of a multitude of things. Chespin could probably be a hedgehog AND something prehistoric. The mole-like/lizard-like tail just screams proto mammal as well as ground, also supported by its coloration, but that's my opinion. Just because a mammalian Pokémon has a lizard-like tail doesn't mean it's a dinosaur, I get that, but some things in the designs are being placed there for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yveltal96 View Post
    I don't think you need to post this in more than one thread.
    There was no news they just reviewed stuff we already know, none of it pertaining to the starters
    Don't expect anything new on the starters anytime soon
    well im just makin sure.... seeing if any ne info
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    I hope CoroCoro will come fast with some new information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jory View Post
    Charmander learns Metal Claw, but doesn't become a steel type, so the same could go for Chespin. But personally, I really don't see it going through the game and not becoming part ground like Torterra.
    That was only in FR/LG though so you weren't at as much of a disadvantage against Brock. BUt I do see your point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergenator View Post
    well im just makin sure.... seeing if any ne info
    you can always check the main sight

    Quote Originally Posted by TanBun View Post
    I hope CoroCoro will come fast with some new information!
    Why? Starter info doesn't usually come until right before the release, sometimes it isn't even announced at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yveltal96 View Post
    you can always check the main sight


    Why? Starter info doesn't usually come until right before the release, sometimes it isn't even announced at all.
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    And in which instance has the starter info not been announced until the game came out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenosectArceus View Post
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    And in which instance has the starter info not been announced until the game came out?
    Better question what starter info do you think they need to release more? we migth get the middle stage formes and thats it, we got their classification, typing, measures, first 4 attacks thats good enough for me.

    Last region the last stages got leaked they weren't oficially revealed till the game actually came out.

    I don't believe they even revaled the middle stags every region, I know they did last region but I believe they did't in Hoenn and I'm not 100% on Sinnoh either.

    We need some surprise factor, reading the forums it seems like you guys just want the game to be spoiled 4 months in advance, personally if any of that WPM rumours get confirmed(beisdes the names), I'll probably get the heck out of the forum till Ocotober.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenosectArceus View Post
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    And in which instance has the starter info not been announced until the game came out?
    the starters evolutions are usually revealed right before game release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    We need some surprise factor, reading the forums it seems like you guys just want the game to be spoiled 4 months in advance, personally if any of that WPM rumours get confirmed(beisdes the names), I'll probably get the heck out of the forum till Ocotober.
    I agree. If they don't announce anymore info during or after July, I might stop paying attention to the speculation sub-forum just for that surprise! I mean, the less we know, the more we can enjoy and be surprised by the content of the game!

    Quote Originally Posted by adl222 View Post
    the starters evolutions are usually revealed right before game release.
    According to what Pepsi_Plunge said, Hoenn's evos were not fully released before the game release. And I remember reading other forums the day before the release of D/P and people did not know what the evos to the starters were, so Unova was probably the only one that were released prior to the game release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenosectArceus View Post
    I agree. If they don't announce anymore info during or after July, I might stop paying attention to the speculation sub-forum just for that surprise! I mean, the less we know, the more we can enjoy and be surprised by the content of the game!



    According to what Pepsi_Plunge said, Hoenn's evos were not fully released before the game release. And I remember reading other forums the day before the release of D/P and people did not know what the evos to the starters were, so Unova was probably the only one that were released prior to the game release.
    i think Sceptile and Swampert werent revealed but Blaziken was revealed and then later shown in the anime before the game released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adl222 View Post
    i think Sceptile and Swampert werent revealed but Blaziken was revealed and then later shown in the anime before the game released.
    Yeah, Harrison's Blaziken was shown early (wasn't it?), so at least one of the Hoenn starters was shown early.

    Also, does anyone think that we'll get the novelty Pokémon released early (if it's not Gogoat)? Kecleon and Chatot were shown early, and Zorua/Zoroark were if you can consider them as novelty Pokémon.
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    alright i know how i'll pick my starter for any of you who watch some of marrilands play though he picks them based off his ending number on his trainer card if 0 he picks any one he wants 1-3 grass 4-6 fire 6-9 water so i'll do it that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaquaza View Post
    Yeah, Harrison's Blaziken was shown early (wasn't it?), so at least one of the Hoenn starters was shown early.
    I think they should go with this strategy again. Show an evo of a 6th gen starter in the anime to rouse some attention for Ash to go travel around the Kalos region. Perhaps Chespin's middle evo?
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    Hopefully they reveal at least the second evolutions in September.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaquaza View Post
    Yeah, Harrison's Blaziken was shown early (wasn't it?), so at least one of the Hoenn starters was shown early.
    However, no one knew it had anything to do with the starters so i wouldn't count it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adl222 View Post
    i think Sceptile and Swampert werent revealed but Blaziken was revealed and then later shown in the anime before the game released.
    Yes I didn't mention it for obvious reason, we all know it was revealed in the anime.

    I'm going to be expecting the middle stages to be revealed like last region, probably in July/August.

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    I myself will probably choose Fenekin, but I wish it was the low key starter like Treeko, Chikorita, Piplup. (Well those are my perceptions at least)
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    I would love to see a Grass/Steel typing for Chespin's evolutions.

    Strengths (5): Ground, Rock, Water, Ice, Fairy (If rumors are true)
    Resistances (10): Normal, Rock, Ghost, Steel, Water, Grass, Electric, Psychic, Dragon, Dark
    Immunities (1): Poison
    Standard Damage (4): Flying, Ground, Bug, Ice
    Weaknesses (2): Fighting, Fire

    Having at least four strengths and a whopping TEN resistances with only two weaknesses would make Grass/Steel an amazing type combination for Chespin. If the green features on it represent armor, then we might just get that typing.
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    2 weaknesses. Grass resists Ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaquaza View Post
    Yeah, Harrison's Blaziken was shown early (wasn't it?), so at least one of the Hoenn starters was shown early.

    Also, does anyone think that we'll get the novelty Pokémon released early (if it's not Gogoat)? Kecleon and Chatot were shown early, and Zorua/Zoroark were if you can consider them as novelty Pokémon.
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