NONE, Dunsparce looks better
A flying type froakie could be very cool
I imagined a long slender reptile with clouds/foam flowing from it
But I don't think he will be flying type, I'd imagine he will be able to hop incredibly high tho of course if he can jump 3 stories high now
It maybe he could be flying types without learning fly?
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But I imagine it'd stay a frog. Probably gliding, like this, the Flying Frog, with the Foam changing to Clouds.
I don't know if this was already discussed but what if Fennekin's final stage turns out to be a fire/fairy type? It fits in the idea of the "cute" fairies GF have showed so far.
Last edited by sunny phoenix; 6th July 2013 at 12:55 PM.
Back then during BW we were discussing if Snivy could turn out to be Grass/Dragon and we all concluded that a Dragon type starter would have too much advantage when compared to the other starters. I would assume this would be the same case as a Fairy type starter seems to have more privileges than the other two.
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Last edited by Royal_Qeca; 6th July 2013 at 1:26 PM.
i dont care about dragon starter cause i already agree with u on that... that dragon type starter would be op for reasons i stated above...
My point is that i dont see fairy giving such op advantages as dragon gives.... and while u keep state it, u dont explain to me why u think otherwise, in order for me to understand your point...
Fairy only gives an advantage over dragon but since no starter is dragon i dont see the harm
Now if u mean that since fairy is SE against dragon and that on its own its a big advantage.. then again i disagree because steel also gives huge advantages but that didnt stoped empoleon to happen (while the other 2 starters didnt get as much)
My point is dragon starter was and might still is op BUt fairy starter doesnt seem to be the same case
Last edited by sunny phoenix; 6th July 2013 at 1:29 PM.
And I have never talked about Steel type being at the same level as Dragon/Fairy type. I don't see how Empoleon can be compared to this situation since to me that defensive type is not the same as what we are referring to here. That was not even my argument... The Dragon typing as a whole gives a lot more advantages to a starter than if it got another dual type when compared to other starters. And that's the key here. It will be more unbalanced and harder to fix than what they did during Gen IV with great dual typing for all of them to counter-part each other or during Gen V with Emboar getting an advantage comparing to the others.
And as I started the discussion this is all my assumption ("I would ASSUME this would be the same case as a Fairy type starter SEEMS to have more privileges than the other two"). I'm sure I have already explained what I meant with this all conversation about Dragon type and Fairy type seeming odd when talking about starters. Which was all said to justify my reason why I don't see Fennekin being in its final stage a Fire/Fairy Pokemon as it would get great advantages because it seems that, as I said in another post, Fairy is IMO trying to mirror the Dragon type's efficience (and therefore being OP to be able to be apart of the circle with any problem or existing one of them which is ridiculously better than the other).
Again, it's my assumption.
how are they going to mirror dragons?? stat wise?? from the pokemon we've seen so far turning into fairy, we already see a big range in stats unlike dragons who most have very good stats
resistances?? we dont know them yet and if the rumours are true fairy only has the dragon resistance, while dragons have 4 resistances and three of them are starters types...
movepool?? thast the only thing that is debatable but again from the pokemon we've seen so far, there are so diverse that , its not like any fairy would be like dragons, who can learn all the good moves...
so these are my examples as to why fairy doesnt mirror dragons... i respect your oppinion but since this is a forum and we can debate and discuss, i dont see u justifying your oppinion...
Last edited by sunny phoenix; 6th July 2013 at 2:07 PM.
I fail to see how Fairy-Type is OP. We only know that it is SE on Dragon-Type. For all we know, Grass, Bug and Normal are SE on it. The guy's rumor can't all be real, or he'd be risking way too much.
Please don't say something is OP when you don't know the full details. *Facepalm*
And even if it's OP, then GF can do whatever the hell they want.
I bet Fennekin will be spiritual or desert related. So I guess;
Please remember that it's just a rumor. I don't see Pangoro and friends yet. It's way too convenient if he got every single bit of info he did. Personally, I think only the info we've got so far is real.
I'm not simply talking about "good moves" or looking mighty and all. That's not a reason to expect Fairy type to be shadowed by it as the other types. There is a huge difference when comparing the overall movepool and stats of all the Dragon Pokemon with for example all the Grass type pokemon or all the Fire type Pokemon. Clearly it wouldn't seem fair to compete with a Fire/Dragon Pokemon when there is a obvious advantage on it's typing. But what does this have to do with the Fairy type?
Dragon't is a great offensive type that was pretty much OP until now. Therefore GF created Fairy type to counter-part its advantages and to do so it as to be at the same level as it is otherwise it won't successfully dethrone it... as we can see with it being immune to it and SE against it. That's the logic here.
In the last generations we have never got the pseudo legendaries revealed before the games being released. You can't expect to see the powerful Fairy type Pokemon when we have only got two new Fairy Pokemon and four old ones. It's still too soon to expect fairy powerhouses. Dragon would for sure unbalance the starters and if in my opinion I see Fairy type following the same path (trying to mirror its offensiveness and being as efficient) than it will also be difficult to manage a good way to implement it on the starters. That's why I think Charizard isn't Fire/Dragon nor Sceptile Grass/Dragon.
Last edited by Royal_Qeca; 6th July 2013 at 2:17 PM.
And what was wrong (per say) about metagame? Pretty much how effective Dragon type pokemon were becoming compared to the others.
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