Starter Speculation/Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[William777]

Fire psychic sounds pretty sp att offensive, but the combo has a lot of weakness, dark, ghost, water, bug, ground, rock,

[adl222]

Fire psychic sounds pretty sp att offensive, but the combo has a lot of weakness, dark, ghost, water, bug, ground, rock,

who cares, its not going to be the perfect pokemon.
grass/ground grass/poison and fight/fire have 4 weaknesses.
and a pure grass starter has 5 weaknesses.

[Bearcubxox]

Yeah Torterra best both too but with his high attack and high speed in player trainer battled Torterra hardly got a chance to attack infer ape first so it'd be left either beaten or with so little hp.

[Darryl]

Fire psychic sounds pretty sp att offensive, but the combo has a lot of weakness, dark, ghost, water, bug, ground, rock,

No, just Dark, Ghost, Water, Ground, Rock. Bug is negated by fire's resistance.

In addition, it would resist: Grass, Ice, Fire, Psychic, Fighting, Steel

[Papousse]

Swampert, Charizard and Torterra say hi. So what if it has 1 four times weakness, it'll have more type advantages over other pokemon. Grass/fighting seems like a perfect fit for Chespin, Fennekin makes sense to have ground with it being a dessert fox.

You know...
Torchic is a little chick. It will evolve into a chicken. A chicken is a bird, so we guess the Flying Type. Did it happened ? No.
Piplup is a baby penguin. It will evolve into a adult penguin. A penguin live in the ice, so we guess the Ice Type. Did it happened ? No.

So why exactly Fennekin should be a Ground Type since we get trick twice by the "in real life logic" ? This is completely stupid. Pokémon isn't totally based on the real life.

[Malcolm Belmont]

I am just wondering..if Chespin's final Evo was Grass/Flying..what types would be effective against and what types would it be bad against?

[golduck#1]

I am just wondering..if Chespin's final Evo was Grass/Flying..what types would be effective against and what types would it be bad against?

Super effective for= Water, rock, ground, fighting, grass, bug
Neutral= Electic, normal, dark, ghost, psychic, steel, bug, dragon
Resists= Water, grass (x4), fighting, ground
Super effective against= Ice (x4), fire, flying, poison, rock

Changes in bold if it is flying/grass.

[adamfitz]

Just an idea about flying Chespin.
Maybe
Ground fire fennekin
And
Ice water froakie?
thinking out loud......

[DarkManager]

If...maybe...one of them stay a pure-type?
For me, probably will be Fennec or Frog.

[MidnightFennekin]

If...maybe...one of them stay a pure-type?
For me, probably will be Fennec or Frog.

Meh, In even Gens the starters are all or nothing (Gen II Neutrals, Gen IV Dual Types.) and these starters have so many appearances to different types, making them pure would be crap.

Plus:

Pure Grass Hedgehog-Shaymin Land, (Shaymin's alternate Sky forme is Grass/Fly (But it's not a Hedgie )
Pure Water Frog-Politoad (Before bringing up that a Water/Fighting Froaks would be too like Poliwrath, remember: Poliwrath=Tadpole Froaks=Frog)
Pure Fire Fox-Ninetales (And Fennekin seems to have Psychic Powers, and Psychic Powered Fox who's pure Fire would cause CHAOS!)

[SharpedoSteve]

I'm hoping Chespin and Froakie gain dual types upon reaching their final evolutions whilst Fennekin remains pure fire, mainly because apart from G/S fire starters have always gained a second type whilst Grass and Water haven't and it's about time the Fire starter stays mono-typed.

With that out the way i have re-considered my predictions...
Chespin: Grass/Rock
Fennekin: Fire/Psychic (though i do hope it stays mono but i doubt it)
Froakie: Water/Dark

[Malcolm Belmont]

If...maybe...one of them stay a pure-type?
For me, probably will be Fennec or Frog.

I hope it's not the frog..i usually dislike pure water types...

[Aurath8]

You know...
Torchic is a little chick. It will evolve into a chicken. A chicken is a bird, so we guess the Flying Type. Did it happened ? No.
Piplup is a baby penguin. It will evolve into a adult penguin. A penguin live in the ice, so we guess the Ice Type. Did it happened ? No.

So why exactly Fennekin should be a Ground Type since we get trick twice by the "in real life logic" ? This is completely stupid. Pokémon isn't totally based on the real life.

Mudkip is a mudskipper. It will evolve into a bigger one I guess. Mudskippers live on muddy, lake/riverside land and water, so we guess Ground type. It happened.

It can go either way. Right now, the only things we can infer are a pure Fire type, a totally-not-Ninetales Fire/Psychic type or a Fire/Ground type. It's not really that farfetch'd, compared to something like Fire/Dragon or Fire/Bug or Fire/Grass or Fire/Water or Fire/Normal...

Fire/Normal. Hmm. I wouldn't actually mind that provided Fennekin learned Hyper Voice through levelup.

[Zyon]

The only dual-type's the fire starters that GF has done is Fire/Fighting, Flying though I'll be fine if Fennekin stays a pure fire in it's final evolution.
But come on GF be creative with the fire starter this time. Why stop there make Chespin and Foakie have a second type in their final evolution's, but make them different then past starters.
An just because one starter has a x4 advantage over another doesn't mean GF won't do it, cause they've done it before

My predictions:
Grass/Steel, Rock, Fighting
Fire/Psychic, Dark, Ground
Water/Flying, Fighting, Electric

[Specter Vyle]

The only dual-type's the fire starters that GF has done is Fire/Fighting, Flying though I'll be fine if Fennekin stays a pure fire in it's final evolution.
But come on GF be creative with the fire starter this time. Why stop there make Chespin and Foakie have a second type in their final evolution's, but make them different then past starters.
An just because one starter has a x4 advantage over another doesn't mean GF won't do it, cause they've done it before

So you're saying that it's fine if Fennekin remains mono-Fire but you want GF to be more creative with the next Fire-starter? Judging by the starter pattern, we had did have one Fire/Flying (Gen. I), three Fire/Fighting(Gen. III, IV, and V) and one mono-Fire(Gen. II). At this rate, GF may make just another mono-Fire (which I believe is unlikely, but still, it's possible) or any other variant combination of typings. I personally wouldn't mind if Fennekin were Fire/Dark, Fire/Psychic/, etc.

For Water starters, the first two generations were mono-Water, the next two were matched up with a secondary typing, Gen. V went straight back to mono-Water, and Gen. VI might do the same. I hope this isn't the case, as I'd like to see another starter with a secondary typing.

[Ghosts of the Forums]

e. But if we're talking about rumors, "Mr.XY" rumors were much better.

What were they? I think I missed them.

[sea_man]

as have i whos MR.xy

[adamfitz]

I feel about silly asking but has anyone not thought of
Frogs legs? The French delicacies
Along with snails, France is famous for these foods
Maybe incorporated in froakie's evolution
Maybe he will be a great speedy jumper with long legs?

[Charmed]

It can go either way. Right now, the only things we can infer are a pure Fire type, a totally-not-Ninetales Fire/Psychic type or a Fire/Ground type.

I can sort of understand why some people might assume that Fennekin's evolutions could be Fire/Psychic types, but where did the Fire/Ground type thing originate from? What are the factors that led to that hypothesis?

[sea_man]

I feel about silly asking but has anyone not thought of
Frogs legs? The French delicacies
Along with snails, France is famous for these foods
Maybe incorporated in froakie's evolution
Maybe he will be a great speedy jumper with long legs?

youv'e gone crazy but i guess i have too because i agree with you

[adamfitz]

I can sort of understand why some people might assume that Fennekin's evolutions could be Fire/Psychic types, but where did the Fire/Ground type thing originate from? What are the factors that led to that hypothesis?

Fennekin is based from a fennec fox, it lives in desert rocky regions

[DarkManager]

I feel about silly asking but has anyone not thought of
Frogs legs? The French delicacies
Along with snails, France is famous for these foods
Maybe incorporated in froakie's evolution
Maybe he will be a great speedy jumper with long legs?

Or maybe He will lose his legs?

#Water/Flying Confirmed

[Specter Vyle]

I can sort of understand why some people might assume that Fennekin's evolutions could be Fire/Psychic types, but where did the Fire/Ground type thing originate from? What are the factors that led to that hypothesis?

We've discussed this on the last page about how Fennekin could be related to an Egyptian mythological necromancer, Anubis. On that note, this could also support the fact that Fire/Dark is another possibility for Fennekin.

On top of that, Fennec foxes do originate in the Sahara, which we could all conclude that Fennekin's species of fox live in dry, arid habitats. So Fire/Ground is a viable possibility.

[Ghosts of the Forums]

#Water/Flying Confirmed

I can't access meme generator .-.

You'll be sorry when I can.

[Zyon]

So you're saying that it's fine if Fennekin remains mono-Fire but you want GF to be more creative with the next Fire-starter? Judging by the starter pattern, we had did have one Fire/Flying (Gen. I), three Fire/Fighting(Gen. III, IV, and V) and one mono-Fire(Gen. II). At this rate, GF may make just another mono-Fire (which I believe is unlikely, but still, it's possible) or any other variant combination of typings. I personally wouldn't mind if Fennekin were Fire/Dark, Fire/Psychic/, etc.

Well yeah I'm fine if Fennekin stays pure fire-type, but I would prefer it to have a dual-type something they haven't done yet. Reason why I say that is because we had three Fire/Fighting-types in row, in a ROW!!
Keeping the starter's pure just boring but not as annoying as having the same dual-type multiple times in a row. Sinnoh is still the only region that has had all three starters have dual-types. It's also nice to see what new dual-types especially for starters which is why I put up those predictions, and I hope GF does make all three starters have dual-types this time.