Starter Speculation/Discussion Thread [Read First Post]

[Generation Hazard]

No matter what it looks like, there will be porn. It's a rule:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...RuleThirtyFour

I'm kind of hoping for fire/ghost, myself. Most people seem to be plumping for dark or psychic as a secondary typing, and I enjoy being contrary

Also? Perfect pokemon for will-o-wisp, especially if it learns it early on.

i've already seen rather...suggestive...fennekin cosplay art. and that's literally what happens if you just type in "fennekin" onto google images. geez, some people are messed up haha.

no such thing for froakie or chespin though. guess it's cuz they look more masculine.

[Royal_Qeca]

This is... bad. I never realised how close pokemon look alike Digimon... hu
Although, I like the whimsical, as you said, side of pokemons.

You know that those Digimon don't exist... right? It was just to show how usually digimon and pokemon are designed. Pardon if you meant that.

[gliscor&yanmega]

You know something else I just thought of?? We don't know the height or weight of the new Starters?? It's not much to speculate about but still, it's funny how no one made a post about that yet...

I speculation that they're all gonna be short and lite.......but seriously, you know how Serperior is the tallest of the Starters and Infernape is the shortest?? Do you think any of these guys will break either of their records??

I'm sure people have brought it up, it's just not much to really speculate on. The heights I believe are always around 1-2 feet, and will probably stay that way. Weight probably would be a little more diverse although looking the weights up, they are all around 10-20 with the exception of Torchic being 5 pounds. The Grass types tend to be the tallest, with the exception of Turwig who was the same height as Piplup and Chimchar only being slightly taller. Water types have usually been the heaviest, however the last two generation had them the lightest. Based on their artwork alone, Fennekin and Chespin look the same height while Froakie looks smaller. Fennekin looks the lightest out of the group to me, with the other two being around the same weight, however Froakie may look heavier then it is due to it's foam which might not weight much at all, so it could be fairly light itself.

It's hard to say if their evolutions will break records or not, we don't know them yet. However, I doubt anything is going to be larger then Serperior, it's a Snake it's suppose to be very long, the stuff the other starters are based on aren't Animals that are really as long as Snakes are.

This is... bad. I never realised how close pokemon look alike Digimon... hu
Although, I like the whimsical, as you said, side of pokemons.

The pictures are to show how the Pokemon would look as a Digimon, those aren't actual Digimon.

[Maya The Awesome]

It would be cool if they somehow made Chespin turn into a Velociraptor.

AWWWWWW YEAAAAAA! Dude, I love you now. Friend request incoming!

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I want this as the 1st stage starters:

This one (I know he've been posted but I love it..).

[strikeZone13]

3 things i want from these starters
1. Froakie stay skinny, he could have a neckbeard for all i care, as long as he's not some fat toad.
2. Fennekin stays on all fours, seriously we need a fire starter that stays on all fours.
3. They make Chespin NOT look like a derpy ****head..

The types can all be random as long as these conditions are met.

[YellowHat's Revenge]

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Not gonna lie, I actually think that design would be sick as an evolved form of Marowak. Maybe make the clothes look less like clothes and more like tribal war paint, though.

I speculation that they're all gonna be short and lite.......but seriously, you know how Serperior is the tallest of the Starters and Infernape is the shortest?? Do you think any of these guys will break either of their records??

Well, Serperior is only the "tallest" because it's length takes into consideration the fact that it's a giant snake. haha
Unless we get another serpentine starter, I don't think we'll be seeing anything "taller".
That said, looking at these three, I think they'll all be of fairly average height and weight.

Also? Perfect pokemon for will-o-wisp, especially if it learns it early on.

Fire/Ghost would be a pretty awesome typing for Fennekin. Yeah, yeah, we got Chandelure last gen, but who's to say typings can't be repeated?

[DSDark]

http://zerudez.deviantart.com/art/Fe...-Evo-347725287

My favorite evolution for Fennekin. Very simple and it feels like a generation 1 evolution

[MastersOfMonsters]

I must admit that, with the lack of news in some time, and seeing people speculate about the same things over and over, I feel pretty bored. No offence to anyone.

Coro Coro can't come soon enough, as I'm sure it will bring my hype to High levels again. But speculating the Starters' Typings already feel old. D:

[Coyote_Dynamo]

Judging by how far off most people were on guessing the evo's of the last set of starters there is a good chance the evo's of this gen will be nothing like we imagine them. There should be some resemblances, but the vast majority will be totally off.

[LeoP2008]

Judging by how far off most people were on guessing the evo's of the last set of starters there is a good chance the evo's of this gen will be nothing like we imagine them. There should be some resemblances, but the vast majority will be totally off.

You have no idea...

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...Fakemon are great but they can sometimes give us false hope.

[Drohn]

You have no idea...

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...Fakemon are great but they can sometimes give us false hope.

Wow luckily I didn't see these images before gen 5 came out.. I would have gotten false hope about Emboar.. The first and last picture have great final evolutions for Tepig! And the first has an amazing design for Snivy's final evolution as well. I wish Emboar looked mroe like the one in picture one

EDIT: It also reminds me of Pumba from the Lion King xD

[adamfitz]

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...Fakemon are great but they can sometimes give us false hope.

Last one isn't to far off the snivy line.
And would have loved the first oshawott evo
I also highly doubt anyone could see embour coming

[ArdentSun]

Hey guys, I'm new here. Made the account specifically for this thread in fact. I've got some speculation and I've been dying to have some others besides close friends hear me out xD

First of all, Froakie clearly looks exactly like Benjamin Franklin to me. This cannot be an accident, he even has the little glasses. In relation to that, I believe Froakie will become a Water/Electric type, with his "bubble" hair turning into clouds in a Raikou/Thunderous type fashion. Water/Flying and perhaps Water/Fighting are also options. However, I don't think gamefreak would create TWO Water/Fighting Frog pokemon and if you read further, Water/Flying would force Fennekin into the Fire/Fighting spot (Fire Psychic would not work because athe type combinations for Chespin do not allow it without Froakie being Fighting). This could very well be the case, I'll get to this in a second.

My favorite renditions of him so far are as such:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...24-d5swr9l.gif (Just change the typing)
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/attachme...jsdo2_1280.jpg
http://www.pokedit.com/boards/ckfind...evolutions.jpg
http://www.pokedit.com/boards/ckfind..._by_kezrek.jpg (My favorite of favorites)

Chespin can be many things at face value, perhaps Grass/Fighting, Grass/Ground, Grass/Steel, Grass/Rock and Grass/Dark. I'll explain why he can't be Grass/Fighting in a moment, and my thoughts on Grass/Ground. Grass/Steel wouldn't work either, as a Fennekin would then have 4x super effectiveness against him. None of the options I've thought of allow Chespin to be 4x super effective against Froakie and for Froakie to have the same typing against Fennekin. Fennekin would need to be Fire/Ground or Fire/Rock, and of those only Ground could possibly make sense. If he is ground and Chespin Steel, then Froakie would need to be Rock, which seems very far fetched. This means that the only possible typing I see left for him is Grass/Ground, and Grass/Rock unless these pokemon go through some seriously drastic changes in their evolutions.

My favorite renditions of him so far are as such:
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...24-d5steeu.gif (Just change the typing)
http://24.media.tumblr.com/f0ef3cb19...e6sio1_500.png (My favorite of favorites)
http://www.pokedit.com/boards/ckfind...es/chespin.jpg

Next we have Fennekin whom I think will be either Fire/Flying, Fire/Fighting or Fire/Psychic. Fire/Flying would give him a distinct advantage against Chespin though, especially if he turns out to be Fighting, the same can be said about Psychic, and if he was Fighting then Chespin would not be. So if my speculation on Fennekin is correct, Chespin CANNOT be Fighting as secondary. In the case of a Psychic Fennekin, a Dark Chespin would not work either, it would allow Chespin to be super effective against Fennekin, but then Froakie would have no such advantage versus Chespin, and it would be unequal. A case where this could work is if Froakie ends up being Water/Fighting, Chespin as Grass/Dark and Fennekin as Fire/Psychic, then all of them would be both weak to, and strong against their counter parts. However, again, I don't think a Water/Fighting Froakie would be accepted since he would be a carbon copy of Poliwrath.

My favorite renditions of him so far are as such:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/f0ef3cb19...e6sio1_500.png
http://25.media.tumblr.com/7db938c02...yidjo1_500.png (My favorite of favorites)
http://www.pokedit.com/boards/ckfind...evolutions.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...24-d5sxwbg.gif

In short, my hypothetical combinations are as follows:
(Fennekin as Fire/Flying, Chespin as Grass/Ground, and Froakie as Water/Electric) This makes it so the Power Triangle actually has two lines, Fire beats grass, beats water, beats fire, and also Flying beats ground (Not super effective, but immune), beats Electric, beats Flying.
(Fennekin as Fire/Psychic, Chespin as Grass/Dark, and Froakie as Water/Fighting) I don't think it will happen, but it's the only way I see to make Fennekin Psychic, and it technically would work.
(Fennekin as Fire/Fighting, Chespin as Grass/Rock, and Froakie as Water/Flying) Same as option one except with different typing.

So really only options one and three are in the race, I can't see them making Froakie Fighting. Due to angst from the community, I doubt they are going to make a fourth Fire/Fighting type, and the wing-like fur on Fennekin does inspire some Flying ideas. He is also based after a Desert fox, no? And we all know about the desert and it's ties to wind and heat.

In conclusion, I think that the typing will be option one, [Fennekin as Fire/Flying (Desert Fox), Chespin as Grass/Ground (Hedgehog), and Froakie as Water/Electric (Benjamin Franklin)]

Do you like this? Any problems with my post and theory? Please feel free to respond ^^ and thanks for reading.

[YellowHat's Revenge]

^ I totally love your Fire/Flying, Grass/Ground, Water/Electric speculation.

Not sure why you're so hung up on the fact that it HAS to be a reverse triangle, though.

[Sealotic]

You know that those Digimon don't exist... right? It was just to show how usually digimon and pokemon are designed. Pardon if you meant that.

Oh, I was thinking they were real Digimon, thank you and don't be sorry, he.
Lots of people are copying others, you know that and I'm glad that GF isn't doing such a sin

[LeoP2008]

Hey guys, I'm new here. Made the account specifically for this thread in fact. I've got some speculation and I've been dying to have some others besides close friends hear me out xD

Welcome!! You've got a lot of great ideas and speculations. Who's your favorite of the three??

(Fennekin as Fire/Fighting, Chespin as Grass/Rock, and Froakie as Water/Flying) This makes all of them weak and strong against eachother, like option one.

So really only options one and three are in the race, I can't see them making Froakie Fighting. Due to angst from the community, I doubt they are going to make a fourth Fire/Fighting type, and the wing-like fur on Fennekin does inspire some Flying ideas. He is also based after a Desert fox, no? And we all know about the desert and it's ties to wind and heat.

Do you like this? Any problems with my post and theory? Please feel free to respond ^^ and thanks for reading.

As much as a Fire/Fighting Fennekin makes me cringe, I'd completely accept it if we got a Grass/Rock Chespin. But then again, we all know who my favorite is so... Your explanation of her other types are great too.

I like all of your Froakie ideas. I've got no expectations for his typing, really. As long as he's dual SOMETHING and has a nice design, I'm sold. All of your suggestions work wonderfully.

As for Chespin, I'm rooting for a Steel, Rock, Ground option. I like Grass/Rock the most as its an awesome type combo (and would fit into my master team). Grass/Ground for the same reason and Grass/Rock BUT is a bit discouraging as we already had a Grass/Ground starter. Grass/Steel is great too because...well, have you SEEN Ferrothorn??

[BV101]

Hey guys, I'm new here. Made the account specifically for this thread in fact. I've got some speculation and I've been dying to have some others besides close friends hear me out xD

First of all, Froakie clearly looks exactly like Benjamin Franklin to me. This cannot be an accident, he even has the little glasses. In relation to that, I believe Froakie will become a Water/Electric type, with his "bubble" hair turning into clouds in a Raikou/Thunderous type fashion. Water/Flying and perhaps Water/Fighting are also options. However, I don't think gamefreak would create TWO Water/Fighting Frog pokemon and if you read further, Water/Flying would force Fennekin into the Fire/Fighting spot (Fire Psychic would not work because athe type combinations for Chespin do not allow it without Froakie being Fighting). This could very well be the case, I'll get to this in a second.

My favorite renditions of him so far are as such:
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...24-d5swr9l.gif (Just change the typing)
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/attachme...jsdo2_1280.jpg
http://www.pokedit.com/boards/ckfind...evolutions.jpg
http://www.pokedit.com/boards/ckfind..._by_kezrek.jpg (My favorite of favorites)

Chespin can be many things at face value, perhaps Grass/Fighting, Grass/Ground, Grass/Steel, Grass/Rock and Grass/Dark. I'll explain why he can't be Grass/Fighting in a moment, and my thoughts on Grass/Ground. Grass/Steel wouldn't work either, as a Fennekin would then have 4x super effectiveness against him. None of the options I've thought of allow Chespin to be 4x super effective against Froakie and for Froakie to have the same typing against Fennekin. Fennekin would need to be Fire/Ground or Fire/Rock, and of those only Ground could possibly make sense. If he is ground and Chespin Steel, then Froakie would need to be Rock, which seems very far fetched. This means that the only possible typing I see left for him is Grass/Ground, and Grass/Rock unless these pokemon go through some seriously drastic changes in their evolutions.

My favorite renditions of him so far are as such:
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...24-d5steeu.gif (Just change the typing)
http://24.media.tumblr.com/f0ef3cb19...e6sio1_500.png (My favorite of favorites)
http://www.pokedit.com/boards/ckfind...es/chespin.jpg

Next we have Fennekin whom I think will be either Fire/Flying, Fire/Fighting or Fire/Psychic. Fire/Flying would give him a distinct advantage against Chespin though, especially if he turns out to be Fighting, the same can be said about Psychic, and if he was Fighting then Chespin would not be. So if my speculation on Fennekin is correct, Chespin CANNOT be Fighting as secondary. In the case of a Psychic Fennekin, a Dark Chespin would not work either, it would allow Chespin to be super effective against Fennekin, but then Froakie would have no such advantage versus Chespin, and it would be unequal. A case where this could work is if Froakie ends up being Water/Fighting, Chespin as Grass/Dark and Fennekin as Fire/Psychic, then all of them would be both weak to, and strong against their counter parts. However, again, I don't think a Water/Fighting Froakie would be accepted since he would be a carbon copy of Poliwrath.

My favorite renditions of him so far are as such:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/f0ef3cb19...e6sio1_500.png
http://25.media.tumblr.com/7db938c02...yidjo1_500.png (My favorite of favorites)
http://www.pokedit.com/boards/ckfind...evolutions.jpg
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...24-d5sxwbg.gif

In short, my hypothetical combinations are as follows:
(Fennekin as Fire/Flying, Chespin as Grass/Ground, and Froakie as Water/Electric) This makes all of them weak and strong against eachother.
(Fennekin as Fire/Psychic, Chespin as Grass/Dark, and Froakie as Water/Fighting) I don't think it will happen, but it's the only way I see to make Fennekin Psychic, and it technically would work.
(Fennekin as Fire/Fighting, Chespin as Grass/Rock, and Froakie as Water/Flying) This makes all of them weak and strong against eachother, like option one.

So really only options one and three are in the race, I can't see them making Froakie Fighting. Due to angst from the community, I doubt they are going to make a fourth Fire/Fighting type, and the wing-like fur on Fennekin does inspire some Flying ideas. He is also based after a Desert fox, no? And we all know about the desert and it's ties to wind and heat.

In conclusion, I think that the typing will be option one, [Fennekin as Fire/Flying (Desert Fox), Chespin as Grass/Ground (Hedgehog), and Froakie as Water/Electric (Benjamin Franklin)]

Do you like this? Any problems with my post and theory? Please feel free to respond ^^ and thanks for reading.

The only thing I will say is that it's not necessarily going to be a reverse triangle so all of the different type combinations you made are all possible. I don't think it will be a reverse triangle since the seem to not have interest in it.

[sflytal]

3 things i want from these starters
1. Froakie stay skinny, he could have a neckbeard for all i care, as long as he's not some fat toad.
2. Fennekin stays on all fours, seriously we need a fire starter that stays on all fours.
3. They make Chespin NOT look like a derpy ****head..

The types can all be random as long as these conditions are met.

This... so much this.

[gliscor&yanmega]

Last one isn't to far off the snivy line.
And would have loved the first oshawott evo
I also highly doubt anyone could see embour coming

The last one looks like it was made after the evolutions were known, they all have the same features as the real ones.

[Drohn]

I think Fennekin will remain pure fire type. Although I hope it will gain a secondary type upon evolution(and I prefer one that hasn't been used before), GF uses the same typing too often for starters, and I doubt they will change it now. We started with grass/poison, and afterwards we only had one more type combination for grass (ground in gen 4) giving 3 pure grass and 2 duel types, for fire we started with fire/flying and then the pure fire type followed by a 3 in a row fire/fighting, water has also had 3 pure water types and one ground combination and one steel. Fire type has been pure fire only once compared to the grass (3) and water (3), and even though we got fire/fighting 3 times, I doubt they will give it a different typing. I hope my speculations are incorrect, but hoping for the best may lead to disappointment for me at this moment.