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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditto24 View Post
    Dark did become the final E4 member though which really added to excitement, I think if we had Dark as a gym in GS it would mean we'd already seen every type, which is still fine but it's just less exciting. A Fairy Gym or E4 member is pretty much a given I'd say. As for the reason why there hasn't been a Dark gym yet, I'm kinda unsure. The reason I use to explain it to myself is that most not all Cities Gym is normally reflective of the town itself or an area near by (especially gen 3+). Dark type pokemon have never really had a specific area where they thrive and the only way I can think a City would reflect Dark is if the town was high in the mountains and was surrounded on all sides and got basically no sunlight.

    All just my opinion, im sure some will disagree.
    Or a city in a cave, which would be aesthetically awesome and innovative for the pokemon series. I'm doubting that's happening though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Requiem's Eclipse View Post
    Or a city in a cave, which would be aesthetically awesome and innovative for the pokemon series. I'm doubting that's happening though.
    Personally i want to see the champion use Normal Types..that would be really cool in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCFan View Post
    Personally i want to see the champion use Normal Types..that would be really cool in my opinion
    I would rather have a champion that uses multiple types and isn't constrained by a type, much like Cynthia and Blue. I feel like the champion needs to know how to utilize multiple types

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCFan View Post
    Personally i want to see the champion use Normal Types..that would be really cool in my opinion
    Nah, Champions should always have a mix team, nothing wrong with a Normal E4 though, which I hope we get this Gen or atleast have a Gym that 6+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elementman-Novapoke View Post
    I'd like to see the gyms and E4 to be a bit harder this time around. For instance, each E4 member should have a full team, and gym leaders should have at least 5 Pokemon. I even think this of the first gym, a team of 5 bugs won't be the most deadly first gym ever.
    I don't think the E4 should have a full team except in Challenge Mode, it kind of adds a bit more gravity to certain battles when they have 6 (Rival battles, the evil team leader, the Champion). I think a better balance would be something like this:

    1st and 2nd gym leader- 2 or 3
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    6th and 7th gym leader- 3 or 4
    8th gym leader- 4 or 5
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    It was ashame that DP also didn't bother to include the evolutions after Weavile into the Dex because that would have remedy the problem. Byron's trainers was poorly executed too since two trainers had an Azumarill and a Skorupi. Thankfully it was fixed in Platinum and I hope Kalos doesn't go that route.
    Don't forget Flint where he only had two Fire types to use and had to fill his roster with Lopunny, Drifblim, and Steelix, that was the most random battle ever.

    IDK why the DP Sinnoh Dex was the way it was, it was horribly imbalanced and lacking for several types. Thankfully, they fixed it in Platinum so I think they've learned from their mistake. They certainly made sure there was enough variety in the 5th gym Pokemon for them to stand alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ditto24 View Post
    Yeah it was odd that they weren't included, it couldn't have been becuase they were scared of having a dex of over 200 when both the last 2 games had bigger dexs'. To me it just makes sense if they don't have alot of pokemon from a specific type...either ignore it as a Gym or put it very early. I was surprised in BW that there was no Grass Leader later on, we had some very big lines for Grass and easily could have been the 6th+ gym with atleast 4 but instead we had Ice...

    I know I rant way too much about the Unova gyms but I was just surprised after the Platinum gyms were put back on track that they slipped up again imo..
    Unova's type choices seem to be based on the most common gym patterns they've ever done, it was really annoying seeing them put the same gyms in the same places they've done too many times before. The only gyms that weren't something we've seen a million times before were Striaton, Virbank, and Driftveil. I agree that having a powerful Grass type trainer would've been good, or a Dark type gym leader (seriously Game Freak, are you really that afraid of the whole "Dark type is evil" thing to not make just one Dark type gym?). And then the Elite 4 combined all of the most overused Elite 4 types into one game.

    I hope XY does the exact opposite and includes a ton of gym types that completely defy the patterns that have been set in place, and then for the Elite 4 be at least 2 types that have never been used as Elite 4 types with the rest being types that they've used only once.
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    Personally i want to see the champion use Normal Types..that would be really cool in my opinion
    Maybe not for the Champion because it would be more....appropriate for them to be diverse but I could see a cool normal-type Elite 4.
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    It gets boring and predictable with a constrainted type.

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    As of now we've had 16 different types used for gyms (ironically it's been this was since Gen 2...)
    But for E4 we've only seen 9.. O_O 6 of these types have been obviously used atleast twice and ofcourse the Unova elite who have now been used 3 times
    There is seriously no excuse for us to not have 4 brand new types being showcased in the league this Gen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditto24 View Post
    As of now we've had 16 different types used for gyms (ironically it's been this was since Gen 2...)
    But for E4 we've only seen 9.. O_O 6 of these types have been obviously used atleast twice and ofcourse the Unova elite who have now been used 3 times
    There is seriously no excuse for us to not have 4 brand new types being showcased in the league this Gen...
    I agree, I hate to see repeated pokemon and strategies used as it gets very boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post

    I hope XY does the exact opposite and includes a ton of gym types that completely defy the patterns that have been set in place, and then for the Elite 4 be at least 2 types that have never been used as Elite 4 types with the rest being types that they've used only once.

    This. I really hope that there isn't an Ice Gym again or Electric Gym....or Water. In every generation there was a water gym and it gets really annoying, if you count the Kanto Gym Leaders twice. I think types that need to stay away from being Gyms are Rock, Water, Electric, Normal, and Flying. I think we should see MAYBE another Dragon Type Gym or make that an Elite 4 type. I think the types we need to see as gyms are Fire, Fairy, Dark, Psychic, Ghost, Grass, Steel, Poison and maybe another Themed gym like Striaton City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    I don't think the E4 should have a full team except in Challenge Mode, it kind of adds a bit more gravity to certain battles when they have 6 (Rival battles, the evil team leader, the Champion). I think a better balance would be something like this:

    1st and 2nd gym leader- 2 or 3
    3rd-5th gym leader- 3
    6th and 7th gym leader- 3 or 4
    8th gym leader- 4 or 5
    Elite 4- 5



    Don't forget Flint where he only had two Fire types to use and had to fill his roster with Lopunny, Drifblim, and Steelix, that was the most random battle ever.

    IDK why the DP Sinnoh Dex was the way it was, it was horribly imbalanced and lacking for several types. Thankfully, they fixed it in Platinum so I think they've learned from their mistake. They certainly made sure there was enough variety in the 5th gym Pokemon for them to stand alone.



    Unova's type choices seem to be based on the most common gym patterns they've ever done, it was really annoying seeing them put the same gyms in the same places they've done too many times before. The only gyms that weren't something we've seen a million times before were Striaton, Virbank, and Driftveil. I agree that having a powerful Grass type trainer would've been good, or a Dark type gym leader (seriously Game Freak, are you really that afraid of the whole "Dark type is evil" thing to not make just one Dark type gym?). And then the Elite 4 combined all of the most overused Elite 4 types into one game.

    I hope XY does the exact opposite and includes a ton of gym types that completely defy the patterns that have been set in place, and then for the Elite 4 be at least 2 types that have never been used as Elite 4 types with the rest being types that they've used only once.
    The DP Sinnoh Elite Four type wise was the best since three out of the four were something we never seen before. Hoenn and Unova were reused types in the E4 while Kanto and Johto don't count since the latter used different types as a counterpart to Kanto with Dark filling the E4 spot. But I'll give the Unova E4/gym leaders some credit, at least their rosters weren't all two of the same Pokémon and one different one along with Pokémon not relating to the gym type like how Karen could have used a Sneasel and a Tyranitar but instead chooses to go with Vileplume and Gengar, Will having two Xatu with no sign of Espeon on the team and Bruno using Onix instead of Heracross.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Requiem's Eclipse View Post
    Or a city in a cave, which would be aesthetically awesome and innovative for the pokemon series. I'm doubting that's happening though.
    I could see this happening, actually. Remember that Sootopolis was built right into the cliff faces of a crater, and that was back with the graphics engine of Gen III. Now that there's a 3D engine, it wouldn't be hard to do the same kind of thing and put a cave roof over it. That said, it doesn't look like we'll get that from the Kalos map, but eh... maybe in future gens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ditto24 View Post
    As of now we've had 16 different types used for gyms (ironically it's been this was since Gen 2...)
    But for E4 we've only seen 9.. O_O 6 of these types have been obviously used atleast twice and ofcourse the Unova elite who have now been used 3 times
    There is seriously no excuse for us to not have 4 brand new types being showcased in the league this Gen...
    To be fair, the commonly used E4 types are made up of pokemon that have high stats. Psychic, Ghost, Fighting and Dragon pokemon are all in the higher tiers in terms of stats, and have several options for powerful pokemon. At least to me, it makes sense that they're recycled several times over. Also, are you counting Champion types here?
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    I know alot of people want Psychic and Ghost gyms but purely coz I feel like I'm constantly fighting them every game, I would only like 1 to show up this Gen. If anything needs a miss, it's Fighting, Water and Electric. But we may be getting a Fighting gym this gen so no luck for me there.

    @Firebrand I don't think that those types should get all the high Base Stat pokemon though, why are they so special to always be in the E4? Plus if thats the reason those types are in there then it's GF's fault for putting them in that situation where they're having to re use the same types again and again. It may make sense but I don't have to like it.

    Also Psychic/Dark/Fighting and Ghost don't have that higher average than any other types and Fire and Steel have an even higher average. Bug has the lowest and has been used as well so thers no excuse for them to not use new types.
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    Considering the dual-typed Litleo and Helioptile, I wouldn't completely write off the possibility of a hard, mixed, yet still Normal-type champion, at least if they retain their Normal-type upon evolving. It would be very interesting, in my opinion.
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    I dont mind gym leaders having a type theme actually i like that but i dont want the same for E4....
    on the other hand i dont want to have a random team, i think thats the purpose for the champion...
    what i want is for them to have a theme.... i will take as an example 2 of previous E4 we had

    Erika is the good example she specialized in dark types but on the other hand she had 2 pkmn that they werent dark types but also they didnt felt random cause both vileplume and gengar felt like part of her team (color wise, ability wise in general they fitted her theme) and she provided more challenge...

    The bad example is Flint he supposed to be the fire specialist but he had only 2 fire types and the rest of his pkmn didnt fit in at all... his team was so random that he was laughable

    for this generation they could try new things for E4 like they arent type specific but they specialize in certain stategy
    for example one use a weather team, a defensive team, an evansion team, status affiliation etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunny phoenix View Post
    I dont mind gym leaders having a type theme actually i like that but i dont want the same for E4....
    on the other hand i dont want to have a random team, i think thats the purpose for the champion...
    what i want is for them to have a theme.... i will take as an example 2 of previous E4 we had

    Erika is the good example she specialized in dark types but on the other hand she had 2 pkmn that they werent dark types but also they didnt felt random cause both vileplume and gengar felt like part of her team (color wise, ability wise in general they fitted her theme) and she provided more challenge...

    The bad example is Flint he supposed to be the fire specialist but he had only 2 fire types and the rest of his pkmn didnt fit in at all... his team was so random that he was laughable

    for this generation they could try new things for E4 like they arent type specific but they specialize in certain stategy
    for example one use a weather team, a defensive team, an evansion team, status affiliation etc etc
    If you mean Evasion then **** no, too unfair considering that Evasion is annoying and relies on luck.

    And Karen specializes in Dark not Erika.


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    The DP Sinnoh Elite Four type wise was the best since three out of the four were something we never seen before.
    Definitely, Sinnoh also had IMO the hardest the E4 and Champion let's hope Kalos gives it a run for it's money.
    I loved Unova but I hated their E4. I liked how their types were semi-related but like it's been pointed out they were a little.....stale and 4 POKEMON for the ELITE 4 is ridiculous
    I want the Kalos E4 to keep the related types and the choice from Unova but add in the difficulty and uniqueness from Sinnoh something like:
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    Fire(only had 1 before),Water(once again only 1 before),Grass(unique),Normal(unique)+ a diverse Champion with a 3-5 level rise (depending on the mode you play in)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aonshinzo View Post
    Definitely, Sinnoh also had IMO the hardest the E4 and Champion let's hope Kalos gives it a run for it's money.
    I loved Unova but I hated their E4. I liked how their types were semi-related but like it's been pointed out they were a little.....stale and 4 POKEMON for the ELITE 4 is ridiculous
    I want the Kalos E4 to keep the related types and the choice from Unova but add in the difficulty and uniqueness from Sinnoh something like:
    E4 types:
    Fire(only had 1 before),Water(once again only 1 before),Grass(unique),Normal(unique)+ a diverse Champion
    That is actually another reason why I hated these types being seen together, I see them as very similar types and have alot of similar strengths and weakness. Plus if you use types that are strong against them, you end up using the same types as another member of the Elite 4. It did work though because it made sense that no one was really stronger than the others. Marshal would batter Grimsley, but in turn would be slaughtered by the girls and it works like that with all of them. Which added to the idea that they're levels are all the same.

    But very similar types for the 3rd time together just wasn't fresh.
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    That is actually another reason why I hated these types being seen together, I see them as very similar types and have alot of similar strengths and weakness. Plus if you use types that are strong against them, you end up using the same types as another member of the Elite 4. It did work though because it made sense that no one was really stronger than the others. Marshal would batter Grimsley, but in turn would be slaughtered by the girls and it works like that with all of them.

    But very similar types for the 3rd time together just wasn't fresh.
    Very true their types did have very similar weaknesses and that could see how that could be annoying. But I feel like Fire,Water,Grass would be the exact opposite. I don't see the problem using the other E4 types against others that happens alot, but Fire,Water,Grass don't share any weaknesses and have enough diversity to have a balanced and well-effective team that's why I off-handily said those types..
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    I will say this, I did like the non-linearity of the Unova Elite 4. Yes it meant there was no real step up in challenge, but after the most linear region in pokemon history, it was a nice break from tradition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditto24 View Post
    As of now we've had 16 different types used for gyms (ironically it's been this was since Gen 2...)
    But for E4 we've only seen 9.. O_O 6 of these types have been obviously used atleast twice and ofcourse the Unova elite who have now been used 3 times
    There is seriously no excuse for us to not have 4 brand new types being showcased in the league this Gen...
    Having all 4 be unused types is a bit restrictive, it would be very hard to make that work. But at least 2 new ones (Normal, Grass, Electric, Rock, or Flying) and the remaining ones are types that have only been used once (Fire, Water, Ground, Steel, Bug, or Poison) is pretty reasonable. As long as they don't use any of the ones that have been used at least twice (Ice, Fighting, Psychic, Ghost, Dark, and Dragon).

    Quote Originally Posted by YourPermanentRecord631 View Post
    The DP Sinnoh Elite Four type wise was the best since three out of the four were something we never seen before. Hoenn and Unova were reused types in the E4 while Kanto and Johto don't count since the latter used different types as a counterpart to Kanto with Dark filling the E4 spot. But I'll give the Unova E4/gym leaders some credit, at least their rosters weren't all two of the same Pokémon and one different one along with Pokémon not relating to the gym type like how Karen could have used a Sneasel and a Tyranitar but instead chooses to go with Vileplume and Gengar, Will having two Xatu with no sign of Espeon on the team and Bruno using Onix instead of Heracross.
    Agreed, I did like the types they chose for Sinnoh's Elite 4, they were pretty fresh. And if they ever do come across a situation where they don't have enough Pokemon to fill their rosters (which I doubt will happen, but it's always possible), they should at least fill their teams with Pokemon that are close to those types (Karen using Gengar is fine, Aaron using Drapion, Lance using Gyarados and Charizard, etc.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Having all 4 be unused types is a bit restrictive, it would be very hard to make that work. But at least 2 new ones (Normal, Grass, Electric, Rock, or Flying) and the remaining ones are types that have only been used once (Fire, Water, Ground, Steel, Bug, or Poison) is pretty reasonable. As long as they don't use any of the ones that have been used at least twice (Ice, Fighting, Psychic, Ghost, Dark, and Dragon).
    As far as I know Water was never an Elite 4 type.

    If we're going for a mix of used and unused, I think having the Elite 4 using types to represent the four traditional elements would be pretty cool. Flying, Water, Ground/Grass and Fire would be a good mix. Though I'd kind of like to see Fire as a Gym again.

    Quote Originally Posted by XGallade
    Considering the dual-typed Litleo and Helioptile, I wouldn't completely write off the possibility of a hard, mixed, yet still Normal-type champion, at least if they retain their Normal-type upon evolving. It would be very interesting, in my opinion.
    The Champion should be mixed in my opinion. Or have a theme like Iris and her dinosaurs. I don't think there's enough variety with Normal types to make an interesting Champion anyway, unless they slap normal onto a few more Pokemon to make some new dual-types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valoo. View Post
    As far as I know Water was never and Elite 4 type.
    The Champion used it in Emerald.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valoo. View Post
    If we're going for a mix of used and unused, I think having the Elite 4 using types to represent the four traditional elements would be pretty cool. Flying, Water, Ground/Grass and Fire would be a good mix.
    I'd like to see this happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valoo. View Post
    As far as I know Water was never an Elite 4 type.
    We're counting Champion types as part of the E4, hence why Steel and Water are both already used once. (Steven/Wallace)

    Arguably you could say bug's been used twice. Alder had 3 Bug-type pokemon, which is the same amount of Dragon-type pokemon Lance and Iris had, and the same amount of Steel-type pokemon Steven had. By all means he was a Bug-Type champion. (His tournament team doesn't count: he uses psychic, dark, ghost and fighting there to represent the entire E4.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by XGallade View Post
    Arguably you could say bug's been used twice. Alder had 3 Bug-type pokemon, which is the same amount of Dragon-type pokemon Lance and Iris had, and the same amount of Steel-type pokemon Steven had. By all means he was a Bug-Type champion. (His tournament team doesn't count: he uses psychic, dark, ghost and fighting there to represent the entire E4.)
    Alder is a bit more debatable. Yeah, half of his team is Bug, but nothing in his design, dialogue, or general theme really hints that he's a Bug specialist.
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