Region Speculation/Discussion Thread

[rocky505]

Please, no more seasons, it's really annoying having to wait 3 months just to access a particular area. I'd rather they use weather to do the same thing, that way it could follow weekly patterns instead of monthly ones. There's a lot of neat things they could do with that, too. Sunshine would cause the water level to lower so you can access low lying paths. Rain could raise the water so you can Surf to higher paths, as well as adding puddles everywhere. Snow would function like Winter, creating snow piles in the area and freezing over waterways. Sandstorms could cause sand to pile up similar to Autumn in Rt. 20. And like with seasons, different Pokemon could appear based on the weather, you could see more Fire and Grass types when it's sunny, more Water and Electric types when it's raining, more Ice types when it's snowing, and more Rock and Ground types during sandstorms.

It's not hard to change the date on your DS/3DS, doing that means you wouldn't wait 3 months.

[cascadethewarrior]

Please, no more seasons, it's really annoying having to wait 3 months just to access a particular area. I'd rather they use weather to do the same thing, that way it could follow weekly patterns instead of monthly ones. There's a lot of neat things they could do with that, too. Sunshine would cause the water level to lower so you can access low lying paths. Rain could raise the water so you can Surf to higher paths, as well as adding puddles everywhere. Snow would function like Winter, creating snow piles in the area and freezing over waterways. Sandstorms could cause sand to pile up similar to Autumn in Rt. 20. And like with seasons, different Pokemon could appear based on the weather, you could see more Fire and Grass types when it's sunny, more Water and Electric types when it's raining, more Ice types when it's snowing, and more Rock and Ground types during sandstorms.

Each season only lasts for 1 month...

But I kinda have to agree. I don't know why they made the seasons 1 month long. The most they should have did is the following season every 2 weeks and even that is a long time for a game. Also they should let us choose what season to start in when we begin a new game.

[Shine]

I don't think it's right that we have to start as the default summer

Very sure B/W/B2/W2 didn't default the season to Summer.

I'm not sure about B/W, but B2/W2 were just happens to be released on a Summer month (October).
If you change the date on your DS before starting a new save file, you can start the game at Autumn, Spring, or even Winter.

[cascadethewarrior]

Very sure B/W/B2/W2 didn't default the season to Summer.

I'm not sure about B/W, but B2/W2 were just happens to be released on a Summer month (October).
If you change the date on your DS before starting a new save file, you can start the game at Autumn, Spring, or even Winter.

Yeah I realized that, that's why I edited it out.

[Wulava]

Really? I thought you needed to go to Humilau first before you could open up Seaside Cave. I'll have to try it when I get that far.

Both Seaside Cave and Marine Tube open up after beating Drayden.

[BBtheASH]

Each season only lasts for 1 month...

But I kinda have to agree. I don't know why they made the seasons 1 month long. The most they should have did is the following season every 2 weeks and even that is a long time for a game. Also they should let us choose what season to start in when we begin a new game.

Honestly, I like it. Though I agree that the seasons take a bit long to change, for a video game. I think they should just change it so that the seasons change once a week. That way we would enjoy all four seasons in 1 month. Seems reasonable right?

[Solacen]

An unlikely alternative i could see is them moving the day / night / seasons control away from real time to an ingame time. So say several hours of real time is a day in game. That way not only could they bring back certain species only appearing at night (and not having to wait all day to have a chance at them) but they could have seasons change after a set amount of ingame days rather then every real month.

[pkmntraineramit]

An unlikely alternative i could see is them moving the day / night / seasons control away from real time to an ingame time. So say several hours of real time is a day in game. That way not only could they bring back certain species only appearing at night (and not having to wait all day to have a chance at them) but they could have seasons change after a set amount of ingame days rather then every real month.

That is a terrible idea. You should feel ashamed. Real time functionality is way better, it's convienient, i'm not waiting 5 hours of gameplay to catch me a hoothoot.

[Maya The Awesome]

Yo dawg, you double posted. Delete that for me, bro?

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An ingame clock system would be horrible. Imagine a time when you're used to 'it's night IRL it's night IGL', and then you're like "Oh man, four hours of gameplay to get to night?" and you have to go to bed in 2 hours, busy all next the next day, etc... life is pain...

[Aurath8]

An ingame clock system would be horrible. Imagine a time when you're used to 'it's night IRL it's night IGL', and then you're like "Oh man, four hours of gameplay to get to night?" and you have to go to bed in 2 hours, busy all next the next day, etc... life is pain...

You go to a bed and sleep.
It advances in-game time to the next time period, be it morning, day, evening or night.
???
Profit.

Of course you'd have to return to your trainer's house or find a random bed and sleep in it, but it'd be nice regardless. The day/night cycle would have to be quite long though maybe 8 hours for dawn to dawn. I play pokemon for hours at a time and it'd feel weird going through several days as a result.

An alternative would be basing the in-game clock on the system clock but being able to essentially advance the clock by sleeping(the date stays the same though. This only stays for each save and gets reset when you go back in, but it'd be more convenient than changing the in-game clock as that ruins daily events for 24 hours.

[Bolt the Cat]

It's not hard to change the date on your DS/3DS, doing that means you wouldn't wait 3 months.

I try not to mess with the system's calendar, that tends to lead to complications. Besides, if you're desperate enough to do something like that, that's usually a good sign that whatever event you're trying to make happen takes too long.

Each season only lasts for 1 month...

Yes, I know, but if you miss that particular month by a day, you have to wait another 3 for it to happen again.

The most they should have did is the following season every 2 weeks and even that is a long time for a game. Also they should let us choose what season to start in when we begin a new game.

Honestly, I like it. Though I agree that the seasons take a bit long to change, for a video game. I think they should just change it so that the seasons change once a week. That way we would enjoy all four seasons in 1 month. Seems reasonable right?

IDK, that seems a bit unrealistic and volatile if the seasons change so quickly. It makes more sense with weather, plus there's more they can do with weather.

Very sure B/W/B2/W2 didn't default the season to Summer.

I'm not sure about B/W, but B2/W2 were just happens to be released on a Summer month (October).
If you change the date on your DS before starting a new save file, you can start the game at Autumn, Spring, or even Winter.

BW started in Spring in Japan and Autumn internationally, no one who started the game on its release date started in Summer. With BW2, however, everyone did, because the Japanese and international release dates were 4 months apart. In fact, I bet that's part of the reason they shortened the localization gap to 4 months then, so that everyone would start at the same point in the seasonal cycle.

[sflytal]

I think it'd be pretty cool if the region represented all of Europe. With Paris being the mega city of the region (i.e., Celadon, Goldenrod, Castelia... the others i can't remember.) I would love to see some German or Italian influence.

[BBtheASH]

That is a terrible idea. You should feel ashamed. Real time functionality is way better, it's convienient, i'm not waiting 5 hours of gameplay to catch me a hoothoot.

Precisely. I mean c'mon, I would hate to go back to the original days of gold and silver -.-

[Maya The Awesome]

I would hate to go back to the original days of gold and silver -.-

Your argument is invalid. I thought there wasn't a day/night cycle until the advent of the GBA? (Or DS?)

[Bolt the Cat]

Your argument is invalid. I thought there wasn't a day/night cycle until the advent of the GBA? (Or DS?)

Wrong. It existed in GSC, was removed in 3rd gen, then brought back for 4th.

[The Eleventh]

Your argument is invalid. I thought there wasn't a day/night cycle until the advent of the GBA? (Or DS?)

Gold and Silver introduced a time system, actually, hence Espeon and Umbreon and numerous other time-based events.

Wrong. It existed in GSC, was removed in 3rd gen, then brought back for 4th.

It wasn't entirely removed in Gen III. It was absent in FRLG, but RSE still recorded time, though they didn't exactly feature night and day.

[Zorgaz]

I think it'd be pretty cool if the region represented all of Europe. With Paris being the mega city of the region (i.e., Celadon, Goldenrod, Castelia... the others i can't remember.) I would love to see some German or Italian influence.

Yeah would be cool to have Scandinavia in it.

[fitzy909]

Going off of the time cycle subject... i hope that the region has other European influence. I know it's majorly based off france, but i'd love to see some italian or british culture mixed in. You know leaning tower of Piza, big BEn, etc.

[Bolt the Cat]

It wasn't entirely removed in Gen III. It was absent in FRLG, but RSE still recorded time, though they didn't exactly feature night and day.

I know, but he was specifically asking about Day/Night, which in fact was removed. 3rd gen only had time.

[Maya The Awesome]

*Shrug* Well I guess that's what I get for not doing my research.

I'm think of a region that has France, Germany, Poland and the UK, with Southern Ireland (Republic of Ireland) in it for kicks. Maybe the capitals and other largest two cities of each country could be the towns, since the region has to be condensed, so we have London, Paris, Berlin (maybe some subtle Nazi references, I dunno), Warsaw, Dublin and (possibly) Munich and Wales. So I'm hoping for a nice big region with plenty of Post-story stuff to do considering the amount of potential cities in France alone. So that brings down the question of the gyms. When we have this much potential, I want more potential in more ingame aspects that will affect us. I want this order of gym:
1st: Dark
2nd: Ice
3rd: Normal (if not E4, then Rock)
4th: Flying
5th: Psychic
6th: Dragon
7th: Fire
8th: Electric

I know most of you will hate on the Electric gym, but imagine if we had a Lt. Surge like puzzle, and an electrician as the Gym Leader.