Region Speculation/Discussion Thread

[yoshi007]

I think it would be great if X and Y focus on the new region, and then a few years later we get a Hoenn remake, or even sequel, where you can also visit Unova. I know they're supposed to be far away from each other, but they introduced planes in Gen V, so what's to stop there being an airstrip somewhere like Slateport City, or even a completely new area/island? I think it'd be great, as Hoenn and Unova are my two favourite regions.

[Zorocario]

I think it would be great if X and Y focus on the new region, and then a few years later we get a Hoenn remake, or even sequel, where you can also visit Unova. I know they're supposed to be far away from each other, but they introduced planes in Gen V, so what's to stop there being an airstrip somewhere like Slateport City, or even a completely new area/island? I think it'd be great, as Hoenn and Unova are my two favourite regions.

No, if anything the gen IV remakes(when and if they happen) should make Unova accessible, since there is that one cave that supposedly leads to the Sinnoh region.

[mitchman_93]

2 things:
-The tree, the moving walls, and likely the web are all gyms. The tree is made out of metal, with wooden pegs holding ropes, and footprints to designate where you gotta stand to move up or down the tree. Like skyla's red tiles for the wind free areas, they are markers.
-Unova should happen. I know it would redundant with 2 games before having it, but one more go would be excellent. Would kind of be like Kanto in GSC, with some sort of connection, even if its not by being geographically connected. Could also be a throwback to the SS Anne, with Unova being accessed by boat.

No, if anything the gen IV remakes(when and if they happen) should make Unova accessible, since there is that one cave that supposedly leads to the Sinnoh region.

Hear Cave just somehow lands you into one of the lake trio homes, not Sinnoh itself.

[ansem the wise]

No, if anything the gen IV remakes(when and if they happen) should make Unova accessible, since there is that one cave that supposedly leads to the Sinnoh region.

there is?

But i always wanted a game where you could access all regions, and i actually thought about how they could do it.
You by X&y and then on the eShop, there could be dlc (it would cost almost as real game, knowing them XD) But you could buy a region. and eventually get all of them.

[Zorocario]

2 things:
-The tree, the moving walls, and likely the web are all gyms. The tree is made out of metal, with wooden pegs holding ropes, and footprints to designate where you gotta stand to move up or down the tree. Like skyla's red tiles for the wind free areas, they are markers.
-Unova should happen. I know it would redundant with 2 games before having it, but one more go would be excellent. Would kind of be like Kanto in GSC, with some sort of connection, even if its not by being geographically connected. Could also be a throwback to the SS Anne, with Unova being accessed by boat.


Hear Cave just somehow lands you into one of the lake trio homes, not Sinnoh itself.

I know that, but the map says that it's deepest point reaches the Sinnoh region.

[yoshi007]

I think the main problem with having a game with all regions would be the levels of Pokémon. By the time you get through one region, your Pokémon would be around level 60-70 already. However, if there was something implemented such as - you have to leave your high leveled Pokémon at that region's respective lab (similar to Ash) before moving to another region and starting another adventure (once you complete that region then you'd be able to access all of your Pokémon) - then that could work, you could even do a couple of regions at a time before getting new Pokémon.

No, if anything the gen IV remakes(when and if they happen) should make Unova accessible, since there is that one cave that supposedly leads to the Sinnoh region.

I know that, but the map says that it's deepest point reaches the Sinnoh region.

Ah, so I see. That would probably make more sense then I guess.

I can still hold out hope for Hoenn/Unova though.

[mitchman_93]

I know that, but the map says that it's deepest point reaches the Sinnoh region.

Kinda like the Lost Tower in Johto reaches Hoenn. I guess this gen when RSEmakes come we're gonna get Johto too, eh?

[ansem the wise]

I think the main problem with having a game with all regions would be the levels of Pokémon. By the time you get through one region, your Pokémon would be around level 60-70 already. However, if there was something implemented such as - you have to leave your high leveled Pokémon at that region's respective lab (similar to Ash) before moving to another region and starting another adventure (once you complete that region then you'd be able to access all of your Pokémon) - then that could work, you could even do a couple of regions at a time before getting new Pokémon.

Or your high level pokemon woud work like traded pokemon in that region. They wont listen to you until you get the gym badges.

[Zorocario]

Kinda like the Lost Tower in Johto reaches Hoenn. I guess this gen when RSEmakes come we're gonna get Johto too, eh?

It would be cool, in HG/SS they said that they planned to renovate the burned tower so if we do get R/S/E remakes and Johto is accessible, it would be cool if the burned tower is completely renovated. Kind of like in gen 1, that man is prepping the land with his Machop because he was going to build something, well several years later that man is still prepping the land, lol.

[Feralninja]

It would be cool, in HG/SS they said that they planned to renovate the burned tower so if we do get R/S/E remakes and Johto is accessible, it would be cool if the burned tower is completely renovated. Kind of like in gen 1, that man is prepping the land with his Machop because he was going to build something, well several years later that man is still prepping the land, lol.

Actually, iirc he ran out of money to actually build the place :P

[yoshi007]

Kinda like the Lost Tower in Johto reaches Hoenn. I guess this gen when RSEmakes come we're gonna get Johto too, eh?

Wasn't Embedded Tower just built by people from Hoenn? Though I wouldn't say no to having Johto return in the Hoenn remakes, that would be great.

[mitchman_93]

Good god is everyone's sarcasm meter off today. While it was built by people from Hoenn, it was also built as a bridge between the two region. It and the Shinjoh ruins are middle points apparently, so yeah. But that's not the point. The point is, does anyone else expect some form of region art?

[Zorocario]

Actually, iirc he ran out of money to actually build the place :P

Oh yeah, but that poor Machop is still running around in HG/SS.

[humilau]

Good god is everyone's sarcasm meter off today. While it was built by people from Hoenn, it was also built as a bridge between the two region. It and the Shinjoh ruins are middle points apparently, so yeah. But that's not the point. The point is, does anyone else expect some form of region art?

If by region art, you mean region art, then i'm hoping they got more of those renaissance style (i'm just throwing the phrase around lightly here) buildings and sculptures, and perhaps paintings. Not real nitpicky about which specific art era they should focus on, but it would be cool to see a huge Baroque painting with pokemon subjects instead.

[Zorocario]

If by region art, you mean region art, then i'm hoping they got more of those renaissance style (i'm just throwing the phrase around lightly here) buildings and sculptures, and perhaps paintings. Not real nitpicky about which specific art era they should focus on, but it would be cool to see a huge Baroque painting with pokemon subjects instead.

Baroque is too damn depressing, I personally would love a Rococo painting instead.

[MidnightFennekin]

Anyone hoping on an expansive region? GF could fit most of Europe into this game, and if we only have about 20 routes (numbered) then I will freak.

[Bolt the Cat]

Probably because it's so out of place and out of the norm from regular routes/cities/buildins. That why people knew that the roller coaster shot from the first b/w trailer was a gym.

Please, it's got gimmick written all over it, it's a once off thing like the roller coaster.

Also, for those people who wanna go back to Unova, why? It was the worst region by miles. It would be so redundant to go back to it, and why would game freak make it the centre of 2 games and then revamp it completely to fit into the new 3D world they have created, seems pointless.

Gimmick =/= gym puzzle, they can put gimmicks wherever they want. Chargestone Cave had moveable stones, are you going to claim Chargestone Cave should've been a gym now?

Anyway, I can't say this is a gym puzzle solely based on that clip, it's not really as artificial as most gyms are. For all we know they could've put these paths up through an actual forest or jungle to make it traversible for trainers. There's absolutely nothing in that clip that definitively proves it's a gym.

I don't get why people don't want to see Unova again. I want to see how it has developed after bw2. We might finally get to see a grown up Iris and not a little Iris in a big dress .

Probably because going through the same region 3 times in a row is really boring. Plus, a lot of people hated Unova's regional design, and I think if we're ever going to go back there at all, let alone anytime soon, they need to make drastic changes to its design to remove the linearity issue.

Anyway, why are people assuming that this region is a far away one like Unova. The sign-post with the number 3 doesn't have to be the Route Number. It could just signify the distance to the next city or something

That same route symbol is used with the signboards in BW2 when you enter the area, it's quite obviously marking the route number. Besides, how does distance make any sense in a Pokemon game? We have no sense of scale except for the number of steps, and it definitely takes more than 3 to get to that city in the distance.

Or if that is a route number, that could be route 3 of Unova ( albeit changed because of different time frames ).

Nah, the geography doesn't match up. First of all, from that viewpoint you would most likely be near the Day Care, but even that doesn't match up because you'd be able to see Wellspring Cave. Second, Unova Rt. 3 isn't that hilly. Third, the city is way too elegant to be Nacrene City. It's just too different to be Unova Rt. 3.

I think they are planning something really big on the Wii U with 2 or 3 regions, if not all, hence the lack of a Stadium-style Gen 5 game on a home console.

Please, no more Stadium/Battle Revolution type games, they're extremely pointless. The only real draw to those games is battling with your Pokemon on the big screen. I'd rather have a full adventure like Colosseum and XD.

I think it would be great if X and Y focus on the new region, and then a few years later we get a Hoenn remake, or even sequel, where you can also visit Unova. I know they're supposed to be far away from each other, but they introduced planes in Gen V, so what's to stop there being an airstrip somewhere like Slateport City, or even a completely new area/island? I think it'd be great, as Hoenn and Unova are my two favourite regions.

They have nothing to do with each other and are too far away from each other. It's not like Kanto and Johto, where you could literally walk between the two.

EDIT: And I wouldn't want to see a game that features multiple regions in any game again, that leads to a whole lot of distribution and design issues. I mean, look at GSCHGSS, both regions are pretty small compared to independent regions like Hoenn and Sinnoh. Plus there's issues with leveling and pacing (a lot of the trainers throughout the game were underleveled, as well as the Pokemon in Kanto). And not to mention Pokemon distribution, where you have about a dozen or so Pokemon that you can't catch until Kanto that you should be able to (why the hell are there Johto lines only in Kanto?), and a pretty bad balance of Pokemon throughout the game thanks to a loosely defined post game (is Kanto considered the main game or post game? Because you could argue either one). So no more multiple regions please, there's too many problems with that.

Anyway, I'd like to see other regions get BW2 style sequels, particularly Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn (and maybe later they can give Unova another one when they've mastered the idea and can give it proper regional design). Hoenn has a lot of interesting things they could do with the regional design because the original RSE had the most unintuitive storyline path ever (especially between the 1st and 4th gyms). Kanto and Johto could use one because they're too small and dependent on each other, they each feel like half a region in a sense. So what they could do with that is cut off access to the other region, expand the regions to about Hoenn or Sinnoh size with a bigger variety of areas, gyms that are more spread out through the region, and a bit more emphasis on exploration. Also, the Pokedexes for both are absolutely unacceptable by modern standards (in particular, not enough Ghost, Dragon, Dark, and Steel types), they could revamp them with newer Pokemon to balance things out. But yeah, there's a lot of potential with BW2 style games, I'm hoping they'll continue with that.

Anyone hoping on an expansive region? GF could fit most of Europe into this game, and if we only have about 20 routes (numbered) then I will freak.

I'll say this much, if we get anything like Unova, I probably won't be buying this game, I'm sick of Unova's linear design, it ruins the adventure feel.

[Feralninja]

Good god is everyone's sarcasm meter off today. While it was built by people from Hoenn, it was also built as a bridge between the two region. It and the Shinjoh ruins are middle points apparently, so yeah. But that's not the point. The point is, does anyone else expect some form of region art?

Pretty sure you mean map art, like we usually get. Like, places covered by clouds and stuff. Yeah, I would love to see that soon, but I wouldn't bank on it. Maybe in another month of two...

[Bolt the Cat]

While it was built by people from Hoenn, it was also built as a bridge between the two region. It and the Shinjoh ruins are middle points apparently, so yeah. But that's not the point.

Are you saying that Hoenn is literally right near Johto, or that it's just a way of them adding a bit of their culture to Johto? Because if it's the former, then why the hell can we not go to Hoenn, it should be right next door.

The point is, does anyone else expect some form of region art?

Probably not for at least a month or two. It's too early to be in the next Corocoro.

[Feralninja]

Probably not for at least a month or two. It's too early to be in the next Corocoro.

When is the next Corocoro? Sometime this month, yeah?