Dex Speculation/Discussion Thread

[Wintendo]

Sorry about that!

S'ok. Make meaningful posts BTW, I've gotten infracted for posts that short. Not holding it against you.

I now realize Sylveon probably won't evolve by level-up. Didn't think that through.

[Zachmac]

I've suggested a couple times that Eevee would probably evolve into Sylveon if it leveled up to a certain point while holding some device that stabilizes its DNA, evolving it into a never-seen form of Eevee and letting it keep its type.
That way it's a new item and allows for evolution by level up without disorganization, and provides explanation as to why Sylveon's Normal typed (if that happens to be the case).

That probably won't happen.

Umbreon and Espeon evolved depending on the time and happiness. Pokemon did not evolve from happiness in gen one, nor did the time matter. Leafeon and Glaceon evolved depending on the location. Evolving because of the location didn't exist in gen 3 either.

We're going to be seeing a completely new method, most likely.

[BenL]

Because Sylveon is feminine in appearance. Though, I do agree that it's silly to assume it's a gender-based evolution because of bows and ribbons. I'm sure there can be male Sylveons. That's like assuming Mr. Mime is purely male because of the "Mr." in its English name. People can't just jump to conclusions about it.



I just can't see how Sylveon is a flying type, personally. I think that the most likely types it could be are Normal or Flying though. The color scheme isn't the only reason I think its normal. I also think is normal because its features don't scream any other type to me. Also, its name alludes to nymphs, fairies, and similar creatures. There are fairy Pokemon. They are Normal type.

I think Eevee evolves into Sylveon through leveling up (thus keeping Normal type) while holding an item that somehow stabilizes its DNA or something along those lines.

Why would it be silly? Mr. Mime, Machoke/Machamp and Gardevoir were introduced before gender differences in Gen IV, which brought Gallade in the game which is supposedly Gardevoir's male counterpart. And since you just can't erase female Mr. Mime and female Machoke from the game they just had to let it like this. But now that gender differences are well established in the games I do not think game freak will make anymore male looking pokemons that can be female and vice versa.

Although I agreed with Eevee only evolving because of its surroundings, I've read Eevee's BW pokédex entry earlier: "Because its genetic makeup is irregular, it quickly changes its form due to a variety of causes. Thanks to its unstable genetic makeup, this special Pokémon conceals many different possible evolutions."

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y could relate to a lot of things but the first that comes into mind is genes. Gender is in genetic you can't disagree with that! Variety of causes and many different possible evolutions, I think its not too silly to think this might be more possible than a flying type. Common, it must look like it flies or could fly to be considered a flying type (and I'm not talking about levitation).

The only other type Sylveon could possibly be is Ghost, since its name is related with spirits of the forest / fairies.

[Wintendo]

Why would it be silly? Mr. Mime, Machoke/Machamp and Gardevoir were introduced before gender differences in Gen IV, which brought Gallade in the game which is supposedly Gardevoir's male counterpart. And since you just can't erase female Mr. Mime and female Machoke from the game they just had to let it like this. But now that gender differences are well established in the games I do not think game freak will make anymore male looking pokemons that can be female and vice versa.

Although I agreed with Eevee only evolving because of its surroundings, I've read Eevee's BW pokédex entry earlier: "Because its genetic makeup is irregular, it quickly changes its form due to a variety of causes. Thanks to its unstable genetic makeup, this special Pokémon conceals many different possible evolutions."

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y could relate to a lot of things but the first that comes into mind is genes. Gender is in genetic you can't disagree with that! Variety of causes and many different possible evolutions, I think its not too silly to think this might be more possible than a flying type. Common, it must look like it flies or could fly to be considered a flying type (and I'm not talking about levitation).

The only other type Sylveon could possibly be is Ghost, since its name is related with spirits of the forest / fairies.

Its name can be interpreted in many ways. A nymph is a bug, a sylph is a beautiful woman, etc.

[Hydreigon5782]

I've suggested a couple times that Eevee would probably evolve into Sylveon if it leveled up to a certain point while holding some device that stabilizes its DNA, evolving it into a never-seen form of Eevee and letting it keep its type.
That way it's a new item and allows for evolution by level up without disorganization, and provides explanation as to why Sylveon's Normal typed (if that happens to be the case).

I think that would be pretty cool.

I would have thought a normal type eeveelution would look more like a bigger, stronger, and more mature eevee--not needing to evolve to fit a specific environment but only to get stronger. it would be brown like eevee, not pink. To me, sylveon isnt the ideal normal type evolution for eevee. Plus i dont think its flying or any other type we have now. You know what that means...

[BenL]

I think that would be pretty cool.

I would have thought a normal type eeveelution would look more like a bigger, stronger, and more mature eevee--not needing to evolve to fit a specific environment but only to get stronger. it would be brown like eevee, not pink. To me, sylveon isnt the ideal normal type evolution for eevee. Plus i dont think its flying or any other type we have now. You know what that means...

Maybe if there is a male counterpart and maybe if its a normal type too, it will look more like a bulkier mature eevee. Also I don't think we'll be seeing new types any time soon, Light type seems a bit odd. I can't figure what else than dark or ghost it would affect plus I can't figure out any other new type they could create. Although, if it is super effective on more than one type it could work... Man I don't know... I guess it can be a possibility.

[Räven]

Why would it be silly? Mr. Mime, Machoke/Machamp and Gardevoir were introduced before gender differences in Gen IV, which brought Gallade in the game which is supposedly Gardevoir's male counterpart. And since you just can't erase female Mr. Mime and female Machoke from the game they just had to let it like this. But now that gender differences are well established in the games I do not think game freak will make anymore male looking pokemons that can be female and vice versa.

Although I agreed with Eevee only evolving because of its surroundings, I've read Eevee's BW pokédex entry earlier: "Because its genetic makeup is irregular, it quickly changes its form due to a variety of causes. Thanks to its unstable genetic makeup, this special Pokémon conceals many different possible evolutions."

Pokémon X and Pokémon Y could relate to a lot of things but the first that comes into mind is genes. Gender is in genetic you can't disagree with that! Variety of causes and many different possible evolutions, I think its not too silly to think this might be more possible than a flying type. Common, it must look like it flies or could fly to be considered a flying type (and I'm not talking about levitation).

The only other type Sylveon could possibly be is Ghost, since its name is related with spirits of the forest / fairies.

I have Moore to add for the Ghost Type idea. Sylveon's color is pink, which is a color signifying disease. It has big, soulless eyes and fangs. And ribbons signify death, AND it sort of disturbs me to think that Sylveon's ribbons are made out of flesh. And as you said, it's name is related to spirits of the forest.

But I still think Its Flying, or maybe Dragon. I seriously don't think it's a Normal type, though.

[flamebeam]

to avoid light-type discussion, we'll just agree that last post was someone just stating opinion, okay?

this genetics theme is why i think there could be two new eeveelutions, one female (sylveon) and one male. combining gender and item for evolution has been done before, but never where each gender becomes different Pokemon, so i think that's a possibility

[BenL]

I have Moore to add for the Ghost Type idea. Sylveon's color is pink, which is a color signifying disease. It has big, soulless eyes and fangs. And ribbons signify death, AND it sort of disturbs me to think that Sylveon's ribbons are made out of flesh. And as you said, it's name is related to spirits of the forest.

But I still think Its Flying, or maybe Dragon. I seriously don't think it's a Normal type, though.

Please I hope there won't be zombies, especially in a pokémon game, I can't believe and don't know why zombies are so popular loool. Also I'm 100% sure it can't be flying or dragon, I know pokémon are sometimes designed weirdly, but Game Freak still keeps some logic. When people talk about Sylveon being a flying type, its like if they were trying to convince me magikarp was a fire type cause its red. If it looks like something, it is a type associated or that can make sense with the design. Cryogonal is a snow flake BAM ice type. I'm pretty sure you guys will find exceptions to the rules but you have to admit it makes sense.

[Bueno~]

Why would we need a new item for a new Eevee evolution? I fail to understand this.
If the evolution is based around gender, then Dawn Stone would be the obvious choice. We had new evolutions with Dusk, Light and Elemental stones on the 5th gen.
If Leafeon is yout only argument for it, then it's a pretty lame argument.

Edit:

Umbreon and Espeon evolved depending on the time and happiness. Pokemon did not evolve from happiness in gen one, nor did the time matter. Leafeon and Glaceon evolved depending on the location. Evolving because of the location didn't exist in gen 3 either.

We're going to be seeing a completely new method, most likely.

Ok, this is a good argument. I hadn't read it when I posted this, sorry.

[ToasterBrains]

That probably won't happen.

Umbreon and Espeon evolved depending on the time and happiness. Pokemon did not evolve from happiness in gen one, nor did the time matter. Leafeon and Glaceon evolved depending on the location. Evolving because of the location didn't exist in gen 3 either.

We're going to be seeing a completely new method, most likely.

And leveling up to a point while holding a new item isn't completely new to Eevee?
I was implying that if Sylveon is a Normal type, theoretically, that means Eevee's DNA probably stabilized somehow (a la hold item) which allowed it to keep its typing.
That's not to say that it's going to happen. Just an idea.

[BenL]

And leveling up to a point while holding a new item isn't completely new to Eevee?

Well it isn't completely new to the game but, to Eevee, yes.

[Wintendo]

I have Moore to add for the Ghost Type idea. Sylveon's color is pink, which is a color signifying disease. It has big, soulless eyes and fangs. And ribbons signify death, AND it sort of disturbs me to think that Sylveon's ribbons are made out of flesh. And as you said, it's name is related to spirits of the forest.

But I still think Its Flying, or maybe Dragon. I seriously don't think it's a Normal type, though.

Wow. Pink is Clefable, which is one of my favorite ghost types. And those eyes and fangs look like Victini, another ghost type. And every girl who wears ribbons is a ghost. And a Sylph has no other dictionary definitions, such as 'a beautiful woman'.

Seriously, guys. You're taking the baton and throwing it out the window.

[ToasterBrains]

Wow. Pink is Clefable, which is one of my favorite ghost types. And those eyes and fangs look like Victini, another ghost type. And every girl who wears ribbons is a ghost. And a Sylph has no other dictionary definitions, such as 'a beautiful woman'.

Seriously, guys. You're taking the baton and throwing it out the window.

New Pokemon based on an abused pink baton with ribbons. Light/Ghost type.

...All jokes aside, for all we know, Sylveon could be a Ghost. Any guess is as good as anyone else's.

[Wintendo]

New Pokemon based on an abused pink baton with ribbons. Light/Ghost type.

...All jokes aside, for all we know, Sylveon could be a Ghost. Any guess is as good as anyone else's.

Untrue. If I say, 'Sylveon is Rock type' it is obviously wrong and has zero supporting it.

It is, as you say, normal type.

[ToasterBrains]

Untrue. If I say, 'Sylveon is Rock type' it is obviously wrong and has zero supporting it.

It is, as you say, normal type.

There's no truth value to any speculation. No right, no wrong. There's no truth to base it off of besides on what Sylveon looks like and the meaning of its name, both debatable topics.
What WOULD be incorrect is if someone said "Sylveon is a new type named 'Female'!" or something ridiculous like that.

I think that would be pretty cool.

I would have thought a normal type eeveelution would look more like a bigger, stronger, and more mature eevee--not needing to evolve to fit a specific environment but only to get stronger. it would be brown like eevee, not pink. To me, sylveon isnt the ideal normal type evolution for eevee. Plus i dont think its flying or any other type we have now. You know what that means...

??? is being reintroduced into the game, and its Sylveon's type! Of course! That's why it always shows ??? as its type...

[BenL]

Wow. Pink is Clefable, which is one of my favorite ghost types. And those eyes and fangs look like Victini, another ghost type. And every girl who wears ribbons is a ghost. And a Sylph has no other dictionary definitions, such as 'a beautiful woman'.

Seriously, guys. You're taking the baton and throwing it out the window.

Though I agree about the color thing, the eyes and the girls wearing ribbons doesn't make it a ghost theory, I have to inform you that its not Sylpheon as far as I know, that's why I don't think it a bug and why I think Sylveon is related to a female, just like you do. We are only speculating and since your thoughts on the name are as valid as our thoughts about the name, please be a little less arrogant. You don't possess the truth.

[MetalFlygon08]

Maybe they bring back the Berserk Gene and make it so if Eevee levels up while holding it it will evolve because the Berserk Gene is the missing gene in Eevee's DNA makeup.

[ReshiZekyurem]

We really don't know what type Sylveon will be, but there is a high chance that Sylveon shall be Fire/Fighting and shall be the final evolution of Fennekin.

[Yveltal96]

There's no truth value to any speculation. No right, no wrong. There's no truth to base it off of besides on what Sylveon looks like and the meaning of its name, both debatable topics.
What WOULD be incorrect is if someone said "Sylveon is a new type named 'Female'!" or something ridiculous like that.




??? is being reintroduced into the game, and its Sylveon's type! Of course! That's why it always shows ??? as its type...

i honestly wouldn't be surprised...
GF might just be trolling us lol