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    Discuss and speculate about the POSSIBLE NEW POKEMON, and EXISTING POKEMON THAT WILL BE PRESENT in Pokemon X & Y.


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    The only pokémon that I think for definite will be in the new pokédex are the ones that were in the states from the building in the trailer:
    * Eevee line
    * Dratini line
    * Golett line
    * Tympole line

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    From what I have remembered off my head, I think the confirmed pokemon is something like

    - Pikachu (and Raichu)
    - Magikarp (and Gyarados of course)
    - Golurk (and Golett of course)
    - Munchlax (and Snorlax)
    - Kirlia (Ralts and Gardevoir confirmed. Gallade might be :3)
    - Pansear (Simisear. It's almost confirmed that Panpour and Pansage are together, since they're so bromantic)
    - Patrat (and Watchog)
    - Litwick (Lampent, Chandelure)
    - Psyduck (Golduck)
    - Weavile (Sneasel) <At the scene when Audino uses Wish, go back a bit really fast.)
    - Audino
    - Mienfoo (Mienshao)
    - Dratini (Dragonair, Dragonite)

    Ooh above me. I don't really see what the statue was. Of course, that area might be post game XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Munchlax View Post
    The only pokémon that I think for definite will be in the new pokédex are the ones that were in the states from the building in the trailer:
    * Eevee line
    * Dratini line
    * Golett line
    * Tympole line

    Most likely, but even that isn't definite yet. Statues and stuff like that is a good hint that they could be, but not confirmation. They've done stuff like this for non-native Pokemon before (for instance, the Dragonite skeleton in the Nacrene Museum). If there's any previous gen line that's even close to confirmed, it's Pikachu, since it's already been seen in the wild. That's still not confirmation, either, but since they probably won't be showing off post game Pokemon in the wild, I think Pikachu's a safe bet.
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    I really hope this time around they include (pre)evolutions from past generation Pokemon. That really annoyed me about gen 5

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    Anyway, I don't think every single one of those Pokemon are in the regional dex, they could easily be showing off post game Pokemon. I think a lot of the ones that have been shown most likely are, but not all of them.
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    I wouldn't say Pikachu is near confirmed. There were Pikachu things everywhere throughout Unova and it wasn't in either of the Dexes. But we'll find out in the coming months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Most likely, but even that isn't definite yet. Statues and stuff like that is a good hint that they could be, but not confirmation. They've done stuff like this for non-native Pokemon before (for instance, the Dragonite skeleton in the Nacrene Museum). If there's any previous gen line that's even close to confirmed, it's Pikachu, since it's already been seen in the wild. That's still not confirmation, either, but since they probably won't be showing off post game Pokemon in the wild, I think Pikachu's a safe bet.
    I think the most glaring example is that huge Pikachu statue in Nimbasa when Pikachu itself is nowhere to be found in Unova.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocky505 View Post
    I wouldn't say Pikachu is near confirmed. There were Pikachu things everywhere throughout Unova and it wasn't in either of the Dexes. But we'll find out in the coming months.
    But it's different, we've seen it appearing as a wild Pokémon in the footage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ver-mont View Post

    But it's different, we've seen it appearing as a wild Pokémon in the footage.
    Yeah but they could easily have done that just to show off their top dog. Everything seen in that trailer isn't final, they could change any of that before October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky505 View Post
    Yeah but they could easily have done that just to show off their top dog. Everything seen in that trailer isn't final, they could change any of that before October.
    we can't say anything from the trailer, since, they have mentioned it specifically that it may change.
    btw, i just have a feeling that they may merge the regional and national pokedex into one.

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    Just going by the trailer alone, I can see the following lines being in:

    Magikarp Line
    Golett Line
    Munchlax Line
    Ralts Line
    Pansear Line
    Patrat Line
    Pichu Line
    Litwick Line
    Psyduck Line
    Sneasel Line
    Audino
    Mienfoo Line
    Dratini Line

    But, as someone else pointed out, the trailer isn't final and nothing in it is set in stone aside from the starters. Of these, I can see Magikarp, Pichu, Psyduck, and their respective evolutions being in the regional dex simply because they've been in most of the past ones.



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    I guess there'll be a new evolution for Audino, and that's the reason it is there. I'm really happy for Litwick's line, love Chandelure. And Pikachu's comeback is also great!
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    Golurk is definately confirmed, with the statue of it in the city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ysmr97 View Post
    Golurk is definately confirmed, with the statue of it in the city.
    Pikachu should've been in BW and B2W2 then because of all the Pikachu signs, statues and blow ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wormow View Post
    I really hope this time around they include (pre)evolutions from past generation Pokemon. That really annoyed me about gen 5
    Seeming Unova appeared to be more of a "reboot" and the fact that BW were originally stand alone in the way that no other Pokémon were available at first. Meanwhile, this generation seems to have Pokémon from all generations, so it's likely I believe we will see some pre and evolutions from past Pokémon this generation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky505 View Post
    Pikachu should've been in BW and B2W2 then because of all the Pikachu signs, statues and blow ups.
    BUT, golurk was witnessed being battled!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ysmr97 View Post
    BUT, golurk was witnessed being battled!
    that could have been post league.
    And i actually doubt they have made the regional dex yet., thus, making these discussions pointless.

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    It's hard to say what's going to be in the dex, but I hope some lesser Pokemon that haven't really been in much dexes before get to be in it this time(Houndour please, pretty sure Platinum was basically it's only dex, unless you want to include getting it post game in Gold and that, I think you could get it pre-post game in HG/SS but Safari Zone was too much for me in that game).

    I would like Pikachu to not be in this, but I suppose one generation without it is good(I don't hate it or anything, I just like to see them feel no need to add the mascot into the game, beside statues and whatnot).

    I want whatever new Pokemon to all be in the dex and none be post-game though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ysmr97 View Post
    BUT, golurk was witnessed being battled!
    And we saw scans of Butterfree and Scizor being battled in DP scans before DP came out and neither were in the DP dex, Scizor was in the Platinum one though. But them showing a pokemon in a video and not being in the game has happened before. They showed Dragonite in B2W2 videos and it wasn't in the dex.

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    I'm hoping for a second evolution for Drifloon.
    The evolutionary line doesn't feel complete to me. Drifloon is a balloon, Drifblim is a hot air balloon, so naturally, it would be assumed that next would be a Blimp pokemon.
    Also Drifblim's stats suck considering it's a fully evolved Pokemon.

    It's always nice to get more ghost types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocky505 View Post
    And we saw scans of Butterfree and Scizor being battled in DP scans before DP came out and neither were in the DP dex, Scizor was in the Platinum one though. But them showing a pokemon in a video and not being in the game has happened before. They showed Dragonite in B2W2 videos and it wasn't in the dex.
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    Really hope the Ralts line is available in the main story, as shown in the trailer. Can't wait to see the starting route Normal/Flying type!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zecaomes View Post
    I guess there'll be a new evolution for Audino, and that's the reason it is there. I'm really happy for Litwick's line, love Chandelure. And Pikachu's comeback is also great!
    Audino is there for the same reason why it was in BW: ExpPoints hording!

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    imo if pikachu isint x/y then it will be weird being the mascot and all. but then again bw and bw2 never had him.

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