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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    I thought it was evolving Spewpa at night, or was there some other condition that was missed when it was tried a 2nd time.

    I still want to know what Pink wing Vilivillion is called, and what the white wing Vivillion looks like and what it is as well, and what other patterns are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdCarnage View Post
    the bird trio isn't obtainable before the national dex. They aren't three spots before Xerneas, three spots before Xerneas are Noibat, Noivern and Yveltal
    There are three open spots in the Mountain Kalos Dex between Hydreigon and Xerneas, which may end up being the birds. Afterall, Mewtwo is 151 in the Kalos Mountain dex, and it is only obtainable post-game.

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    2 spots left for aron family in mt dex... im giving up. if no aggron in post game=no mega aggron=no aggron until december 27 -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by GatedSunOne View Post
    Goodra is likely our Pseudo, but in all honesty I wish he weren't.

    Game Freak clearly stated this gen was all about nerfing Dragons; yet here we are with a lv.70 Dragon pseudo again. I love all of Goomy, Sligoo and Goodra, but it's this sort of formulaic design (you know, sticking to a tried and true formula instead of looking outside the box) that's starting to make fans groan at times. Mashable's (rather pathetic) review of XY attempted to get this point across.
    what did you expect though, especially since they HAVE broken many of their trends. less than 100 pokemon, no non-uber trio, one eeveelution, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangren View Post
    There are three open spots in the Mountain Kalos Dex between Hydreigon and Xerneas, which may end up being the birds. Afterall, Mewtwo is 151 in the Kalos Mountain dex, and it is only obtainable post-game.
    I believe there will be a trio it's a tradition

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeF View Post
    I believe there will be a trio it's a tradition
    Which trio, the birds? It can't be any new pokemon as there is no spot for them in the national dex.

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    any news about the Mew-Celebi-Jirachi-Manaphy-Victini for this gen?

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    So I assume we aren't getting a new legendary trio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GatedSunOne View Post
    Goodra is likely our Pseudo, but in all honesty I wish he weren't.

    Game Freak clearly stated this gen was all about nerfing Dragons; yet here we are with a lv.70 Dragon pseudo again. I love all of Goomy, Sligoo and Goodra, but it's this sort of formulaic design (you know, sticking to a tried and true formula instead of looking outside the box) that's starting to make fans groan at times. Mashable's (rather pathetic) review of XY attempted to get this point across.
    Dragon types are always the pseudo legendaries of each gen, the only exceptions are Johto(No Dragon types) and then in Hoenn both Salamence and Metagross were Pseudo. So theoretically there could be another pseudo legendary this gen. I hope it's Noivern(because I luv it), but that is probably not going to be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achernar View Post
    any news about the Mew-Celebi-Jirachi-Manaphy-Victini for this gen?
    No, and we probably won't know about such a thing for a good while - when they announce them, in fact, would be likely the earliest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GatedSunOne View Post
    Goodra is likely our Pseudo, but in all honesty I wish he weren't.

    Game Freak clearly stated this gen was all about nerfing Dragons; yet here we are with a lv.70 Dragon pseudo again. I love all of Goomy, Sligoo and Goodra, but it's this sort of formulaic design (you know, sticking to a tried and true formula instead of looking outside the box) that's starting to make fans groan at times. Mashable's (rather pathetic) review of XY attempted to get this point across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achernar View Post
    any news about the Mew-Celebi-Jirachi-Manaphy-Victini for this gen?
    None as of yet, most likely it wont be known until its official reveal sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achernar View Post
    any news about the Mew-Celebi-Jirachi-Manaphy-Victini for this gen?
    nope, no one has been able to hack the 3DS at all, yet alone a game JUST leaked into the hands of a few and that is how we learned about the other gen's event pokemon before release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achernar View Post
    any news about the Mew-Celebi-Jirachi-Manaphy-Victini for this gen?
    I'm afraid not. Until we get a brilliant hacker to get their hands on the games, we're out of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achernar View Post
    any news about the Mew-Celebi-Jirachi-Manaphy-Victini for this gen?
    None. Any event Pokemon cannot be confirmed until GF announces anything, since hacking into the game's data is currently impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shraeder View Post
    Dragon types are always the pseudo legendaries of each gen, the only exceptions are Johto(No Dragon types) and then in Hoenn both Salamence and Metagross were Pseudo. So theoretically there could be another pseudo legendary this gen. I hope it's Noivern(because I luv it), but that is probably not going to be the case.
    Kingdra would like to have a word with you. (I know Kingdra is not Pseudo but you said there's no Dragons in Johto)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluemage21 View Post
    what did you expect though, especially since they HAVE broken many of their trends. less than 100 pokemon, no non-uber trio, one eeveelution, etc.
    I guess that post implied I was one of those who groaned over such. I can assure you that's far from the case, as I cited Mashable of being one of those personally and did not include myself. I honestly don't follow what constitutes tiredness and linearity in Pokemon games; that changes from person to person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aura Flare Riolu View Post
    Kingdra would like to have a word with you. (I know Kingdra is not Pseudo but you said there's no Dragons in Johto)
    Darn always forget that one since Horsea and Seadra are pure Water!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluemage21 View Post
    Which trio, the birds? It can't be any new pokemon as there is no spot for them in the national dex.
    Can't know for sure that Gamefreak didn't put them after Zygarde.

    Especially given how weird 5th gen's Pokedex was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shraeder View Post
    Dragon types are always the pseudo legendaries of each gen, the only exceptions are Johto(No Dragon types) and then in Hoenn both Salamence and Metagross were Pseudo. So theoretically there could be another pseudo legendary this gen. I hope it's Noivern(because I luv it), but that is probably not going to be the case.
    Not always, as you said, Tyranitar and Metagross are exceptions, so it was entirely possible for a non-dragon one.

    Really, I agree with GatedSunOne on this, Goodra is a cool design but giving Dragons these high stats was exactly the reason why some fans felt they reached a point of being broken, and yet they give us another one despite saying they'd nerf it. It's like saying you're disarming your army while giving them cannons.

    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    Can't know for sure that Gamefreak didn't put them after Zygarde?

    Especially given how weird 5th gen's Pokedex was.
    Except 5th gen had event legendaries after Kyurem, so that's not a good example. In fact, every mascot group had events following them excluding 4, which had Cresselia before them.


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    I'm sure, even with the lack of hacks on the 3DS, some kid is still going to want his Level 10 Zekrom. Honestly...

    On topic, anyways, it'll kind of be nice to have a surprise to have an Event Pokemon we know nothing of. But I still have a feeling someone, somewhere, will find out about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuy409 View Post
    2 spots left for aron family in mt dex... im giving up. if no aggron in post game=no mega aggron=no aggron until december 27 -_-
    You really want Aggron in there huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    Can't know for sure that Gamefreak didn't put them after Zygarde?

    Especially given how weird 5th gen's Pokedex was.
    Trollfreak has yet to troll that badly with the dex in ANY gen. the mascot ubers and the event pokemon have always been the last pokemon in the dex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taodragon View Post
    Not always, as you said, Tyranitar and Metagross are exceptions, so it was entirely possible for a non-dragon one.

    Really, I agree with GatedSunOne on this, Goodra is a cool design but giving Dragons these high stats was exactly the reason why some fans felt they reached a point of being broken, and yet they give us another one despite saying they'd nerf it. It's like saying you're disarming your army while giving them cannons.
    Well aren't they using Fairy types to nerf Dragons? I don't think it is that big of deal, but that may just be because Dragon is one of my favorite types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GatedSunOne View Post
    Goodra is likely our Pseudo, but in all honesty I wish he weren't.

    Game Freak clearly stated this gen was all about nerfing Dragons; yet here we are with a lv.70 Dragon pseudo again. I love all of Goomy, Sligoo and Goodra, but it's this sort of formulaic design (you know, sticking to a tried and true formula instead of looking outside the box) that's starting to make fans groan at times. Mashable's (rather pathetic) review of XY attempted to get this point across.
    I agree- it bugs me too :S it seems kind of contradictory to acknowledge that Dragons had too much power and then go and do it all over agai ¬_¬ especially with Goodra... I love the design- but it's pure Dragon typing is so grating to me. I wish we had a non dragon pseudo legend you know, that would be nice


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    So we don't have a 'cute event legend' yet? Or is it, at all? Is the list of known pokemon completely exhaustive or only through what has been found through normal gameplay? Perhaps we can expect more from this dex than we think? If certain pokemon can only be available through download for whatever reason/
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