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    Just now seeing the news. Another Eevee evolution? Really? Might as well just go ahead and have all the Eevee evolutions for every type. At first, i thought back in the day that they wanted eeeveelutions for the special types (i.e. Psychic, Grass, Ice) but like i said might as well make 'em all

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowHat's Revenge View Post
    Its color scheme is reminiscent of the Red/Blue of several other Dragon-types, and it is a combination most commonly associated with the typing.
    A lot of the Eevees have very subtle references to their actual typing, relying heavily on color scheme.
    Who's to say what is "draconic", when we have Pokemon like Altaria, Flygon, Dragonair, etc? Ninfeon's sharp teeth add just a touch of ferocity to its elegance.
    I wasn't just referring to dragon type pokemon, I was referring to dragons in general. Those ones you mentioned have very draconic features, when compared to dragons in various mythologies. I could maybe see comparisons with a mesopotamian dragon, but that's stretching it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by carboncopy View Post
    It can look feminine but still be male, lika many other pokes. Pokemon dont have have the same gender diff as humans
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    Ah, new pokemon, 'Ninfia' - I love it! Great job keeping us on our toes, Gamefreak.

    Now, my thoughts on typing.

    Normal: It really isn't that difficult to imagine Ninfia as a confirmed Normal-type. Colour scheme, cutesy bow & ribbon accents, bright blue eyes - all these design traits put Ninfia in the same league as the Wigglytuff and Clefable lines. A maxed out beauty/Prism scale-ish/happiness in a certain location-ish evolution for Eevee into normal Ninfia? It is possible, but personally, I think that if Eevee was getting a Normal-type evolution, it should've just evolved into something that retains the brownish, 'furry' appearance of, well, Eevee (some fanart normal-type Eevees out there, or like Chillarmy - Chillacinno) However, it DOES NOT mean that a normal-type evolution of Eevee CAN'T look drastically different from its normal-type pre-evolution, under the right evolutionary circumstances.

    Dragon: This one is a bit hard to see. Altaria & Swablu, in my opinion, were very cutesy looking pokemon, and the former ended up a dragon-type. Yes, it is a bit of a stretch. What I mean to say, is that appearance wise, it is possible for a Pokemon that looks like Ninfia to end up a Dragon-type. Also, for those who want to look at it this way: IF Gamefreak was looking to complete it's 'special type' Eeveelution family, this theory may very well hold true. Prior to Generation IV, Water, Electric, Fire, Psychic, Dark, Grass, Ice & Dragon were exclusively Special. We're missing just one. Also, eeveelutions after the original trio have always been revealed in pairs. This time, it's a bit strange we only get one (not saying we might not get another one, but as of this post, that's how things seem).

    Bug: I'm not really feeling this, but I respect those who think otherwise. Yes, those bows look like butterflies, and maybe you can say the blue eyes look - err - buggish. This would be a nice surprise.

    Fighting: Likewise. I'm aware many of you see the connection with that one pokemon, Mienshao, a pokemon speculatively inspired by the art of whip fighting. Personally, if it was a fighting type, I prefer it to look a bit more...(i'm sorry there's no other way to say this, but) masculine. Then again, anything is possible.

    Flying: I think it would make a nice flying-type, a departure from what the current consensus of what a flying type should look like. Again, those bows and ribbons. It's a bit hard to not imagine a flying type eeveelution without any feather or traditional wing design elements though (damn you fanart).

    Steel: Very hard to see, but it is possible. That attack does look like Flash Cannon, but any pokemon can learn any attack out of it's type. Hmmm, a cutesy, pink steel-type eevee. It is possible. (Wormadam? Well. Yeah okay.)

    Light, 'Aether'/New type: (DISCLAIMER: I know how touchy and sensitive people here can get with new-type speculation, but in this context, it would make sense to throw it in. Please people. Take it in with a grain of salt. Unknot thy panties.)

    I think I get why people are angry with this. Much debate concerning Light as a new type boils down to how many think how unnecessary it is, as a type (and how shoddy the arguments brought up supporting the Light-type were) . Now, personally, as I've voraciously argued quite a few times before, the conception of another pokemon type based off the 'honourable' archetype is very much quite possible. Yes, I was talking about the fighting-type. Fighting, although it gained some nice special attacks like Aura Sphere & Focus Blast, has been generally considered and seen by many as a predominantly 'Physical type'. By physical, I mean, combat, and yes, that samurai code of honour. A proposed Light-type can be what the fighting type is, honourable, holy, good, but, perhaps, special. Why would they create another type remotely similar to Fighting? Well, there is a Rock type, and there is a Ground type. They are VERY different, yes. But you can't deny that they are somewhat REMOTELY similar in origin. What i'm saying is, anything can happen. Now, why would they want to 'upset' the already perfect and balanced type board? Well, why won't they?

    The Dark type has always seen attacks based on slyness, cunning and deception. Basically, as it's Japanese name suggest, Evil. However, attacks like Dark Pulse, Dark Void & Night Daze added extra depth to the type - like it's english name, actual darkness, the absence of light. If you tie in the 'Holy Light' theory in this somewhat convoluted diagram, you can't deny that it does make SOME sense. Psychic says hi? Well, yes. In Japanese, the Esper-type is pretty much what the Psychic-type in international games is. Pokemon with heightened telepathic powers, the mind, intelligence, something quite paranormal and, if you'd like, magic. It does not mean good.

    BACK ON TOPIC, Ninfia. As a Light-type? Well. Bright, blue eyes - as opposed to Umbreon's dark red. 'Glowing', 'glittery' blue accents. A general look of content. It is possible that this might be a Light-type eeveelution. It's strange they kept the typing a mystery, though it wouldn't be the first time. That is why i'm saying, good on ya Gamefreak.

    Again, to those who think otherwise, are offended, or just plain tired of such speculation...be nice. If it happens, well, hey. If it does not, then you all can tell me "HAH, take that sucka." I'm cool with it

    EDIT: I see someone brought up the 'Aether' point somewhere above me. That would make a nice name in Japanese, though it might just end up being localised as 'Light')
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleh View Post
    I cleaned the artwork :3

    Ninfeon - Cottoncandy Type confirmed.
    You heard it here first guyz.

    Ninf = The sound you make when eating cottoc candy. So obvious, Gamefreak.
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    Lol, I think you're alone on that one. Personlly, if there is another Fire/Fighting I am boycotting starters altogether in my game. I'd rather use a Bidoof seriously as my starter then entertain another Fire/Fighting type. Infact... That's exactly what I will do. If Fennekin is Fire/Fighting... no. If ANY of these next starters are part Fighting and Bidoof is catchable in game I'm starting with Chespin, dumping that moefoe in the PC the first chance I get, catching a Bidoof, and PWNing my rival's abomination with Surf. This, I swear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowHat's Revenge View Post
    It's name is NINfia.
    Nin.
    Not Nym. Not Nim.
    People have been pronouncing it wrong and giving its name meanings that don't necessarily apply.
    The thing is, if you type the characters in Ninfia's name as they appear in the Japanese ni-n-fu, you get the Japanese approximation of the English word nymph. That is basically how you pronounce the word nymph is Japanese. So I'd say the "meaning" is right on the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cascadethewarrior View Post
    So? What's wrong with it being pink and male? Nothing. So it is ok.

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    most causal gamers pick a Pokemon based on apperence i dont care if it has awesome states that makes it kill everything in OU a male pokemon going around in ribbons and a bow is just a no in my eyes


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    don't take it seriously, nin is similar to nintendo. nintendo translates to leave luck to heaven. heaven is related to skies. skies are related to flying, so i think it is 99 percent chance for ninfia to be flying
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    I was thinking Bug last night, but I'm almost positive it's flying now. I'm guessing either Nympheon (Nymfeon) or Pixeon will be the name.

    Gen 2 introduced Night/Day as well as Psychic/Dark Eeveelutions
    Gen 4 introduced tracking the year, though not seasons, but we still got Grass/Ice

    So since Gen 6 is introducing 3D, it makes sense that the we would have Flying (Y-axis) and if we get another one Ground (X-axis) maybe we'll even get a Ghost or Dragon type to represent Z-axis
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    Hmmm, I like the design first of all so w/e type it is, it's cool.

    My bet is either normal or flying-type, I say normal because ... it looks like any other normal pokemon (Blissey, Audino, Wigglytuff, Whismur, etc.) and flying because of it's large ears as well as the "ribbons" around it's body.

    The second I saw the pokemon I immediately though it was a Eeveelution that an eevee with max cuteness or beauty would have to become. I miss Contests so much T_T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nacreous View Post
    A great new type that would fit with this eeveelution and with several other pkmn deemed Normal types would be Aether type http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_...cal_element%29 ...it's more encompassing than the infamous "Light type" wich only stretched to...well...light>.>.Aether has a more spiritual and cosmic meaning...something to do with benevolence.With this,maybe Eevee evolves into Ninfia when trying to protect its trainer or something like that...or when there is no hope left>.>

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_%28mythology%29
    Awesome I like it.
    Note: that for me at least, whenever I talk about "Light" type i'm talking about a holy/spiritual type instead of the literal form.
    Light stands for good, and is divine like, and is the most easy name to describe the type.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dewkage View Post
    most causal gamers pick a Pokemon based on apperence i dont care if it has awesome states that makes it kill everything in OU a male pokemon going around in ribbons and a bow is just a no in my eyes
    Well I think ninfia will be on my team.
    And I don't care if its male
    Just like I didn't care with my milotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidaboy View Post
    don't take it seriously, nin is similar to nintendo. nintendo translates to leave luck to heaven. heaven is related to skies. skies are related to flying, so i think it is 99 percent chance for ninfia to be flying
    weird way of figuring out what you think the type will be. but what ever works for you


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    I was thinking some more and if Eevee evolves into the normal type Ninfia by level that maybe it evolves at a fairly high level. This could explain why it has taken so long to appear because by the time it gets to that level most Eevee would be at the happiness level high enough to evolve to Umbreon or Espeon. I for one am surprised Eevee hasn't had an evolution by mere level up yet. I hold item evolution by maybe Silk Scarf would be cool too. I am hoping for Ninfia to be something other than normal, but the only other types I could see would be Dragon or Flying. But right now I'm sticking with Eevee evolving into the Normal type Ninfia by level up.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dewkage View Post
    most causal gamers pick a Pokemon based on apperence i dont care if it has awesome states that makes it kill everything in OU a male pokemon going around in ribbons and a bow is just a no in my eyes
    I'm a casual gamer who picks Pokemon based on appearance, and I think Ninfia's appearance is pretty damn cool. It's just as beautiful and elegant as the rest of the Eeveelutions (or at least Flareon, Espeon, and Glaceon).

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanderCage View Post
    I was thinking some more and if Eevee evolves into the normal type Ninfia by level that maybe it evolves at a fairly high level. This could explain why it has taken so long to appear because by the time it gets to that level most Eevee would be at the happiness level high enough to evolve to Umbreon or Espeon. I for one am surprised Eevee hasn't had an evolution by mere level up yet. I hold item evolution by maybe Silk Scarf would be cool too. I am hoping for Ninfia to be something other than normal, but the only other types I could see would be Dragon or Flying. But right now I'm sticking with Eevee evolving into the Normal type Ninfia by level up.
    if it is a hold item evolution it will most likely be with a item that has yet to be introduced like with marmortar...etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimoto-Kenta View Post
    Awesome I like it.
    Note: that for me at least, whenever I talk about "Light" type i'm talking about a holy/spiritual type instead of the literal form.
    Light stands for good, and is divine like, and is the most easy name to describe the type.
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    I think Ninfia (Ninfeon as I'm calling it) needs to grow on me, I'm not sure I like it. I really hope it isn't normal type, I generally don't like training them.

    The main point I'm taking from this news is that there are evolutions of old pokémon and its not just going to be limited to gen V. At the least I'm hoping for links to someone from every generation, and as mentioned before, Gen V has many similarities with Gen I. I mainly want a Tropius evolution, maybe based on a really big dinosaur.

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    Is Ninfia it's English name? I havn't been on in a while, so I have no idea what the hell is going on. I need an explination ._.

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    Guys, there should be a Pokemon based on Nicholas Cage.

    It will appear in every Pokemon movie.

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