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    Quote Originally Posted by Maya The Awesome View Post
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

    I will never have a Pokemon based off a human's supposed ancestor, I don't like the thought of humans coming from Pokemon or vice versa, and I don't like the thought of evolution, in the way of humans coming from monkeys, since Pokemon to me is more of stages in life: Baby/Child < Teenager/YA < Adult/Senior
    Then what do you call pokémon such as Mr.Mime, Gothetelle, Hitmonchan, and Jynx?
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    Humaniod. They're inspired by humans, but a caveman is supposedly a direct ancestor to humans, I don't like that thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maya The Awesome View Post
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

    I will never have a Pokemon based off a human's supposed ancestor, I don't like the thought of humans coming from Pokemon or vice versa, and I don't like the thought of evolution, in the way of humans coming from monkeys, since Pokemon to me is more of stages in life: Baby/Child < Teenager/YA < Adult/Senior
    Well Mew is already said to be the genetic ancestor of Pokémon, so... evolution is and always has been present in a technical sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Zoroark View Post
    Listen, you gotta remember these things; always avoid claims of Fennekin being (or becoming) part Fighting-type, don't tick off mods, and NEVER (and I mean NEVER!) suggest that Arceus is the God of Pokemon when Endolise is online. If you somehow make this mistake, run for the hills before he attempts to murder you via tongue lashing.

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    I see what you're saying, but if that's true why is there still a Mew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maya The Awesome View Post
    I see what you're saying, but if that's true why is there still a Mew?
    Really good survival instinct and long-term seclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Zoroark View Post
    Listen, you gotta remember these things; always avoid claims of Fennekin being (or becoming) part Fighting-type, don't tick off mods, and NEVER (and I mean NEVER!) suggest that Arceus is the God of Pokemon when Endolise is online. If you somehow make this mistake, run for the hills before he attempts to murder you via tongue lashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDaikenki View Post
    I thought about a defense version of it, but the item would be cool. Or how about this, an item that heals your pokémon when it's hit by a super effective attack.
    You mean the enigma berry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maya The Awesome View Post
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

    I will never have a Pokemon based off a human's supposed ancestor, I don't like the thought of humans coming from Pokemon or vice versa, and I don't like the thought of evolution, in the way of humans coming from monkeys, since Pokemon to me is more of stages in life: Baby/Child < Teenager/YA < Adult/Senior
    A fun, relevant dex entry.

    Pokemon Emerald: Kadabra:- "It is rumored that a boy with psychic abilities suddenly transformed into Kadabra while he was assisting research into extrasensory powers. "

    I don't usually take pokedex entries too seriously since they've sometimes scraped against each other for a variety of reasons. Realistically thinking, there would have had to be a fine line somewhere in evolution. I remember an old Kanto novel I read for the Pokemon Movie a long way back that said Pokemon came before humans, so evolution is a probable and likely theory (Though this is a series of typical ten year olds fighting their pet animals against each other for sport so there's not that much realism in that regard.)
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    Pokemon like Jynx , Mr. Mime, Gotheitlle, Gardevoir , etc. are usually based on entities from Japanese folklore or are said to be spirits or have some type of spiritual or guardian attachment to it.
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    Enigma Berry? I never even see one of those... okay, an item that's non-consumable (inorganic, for Theif/Trick, etc...), and available in normal gameplay.

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    I Hope They Still Continue The Lucario/Zoroark Type Pokemon This Region.
    In The Sinnoh Region We Had Lucario. Which Is Based Off Of An Egyptain God Of Funerals, Anubis, Who Has The Head Of A Jackal.
    In The Unova Region We Had Zoroark. Which Is Likely Based Off Of An Kitsune Of Japanese Folklore, A Shape-Shifting Mythical Fox That Would Trick Unsuspecting Travelers For Fun.

    Sinnoh Region = Lucario
    Unova Region = Zoroark
    Generation 6 = ?????????

    If We Do Have A Pokemon Like Lucario/Zoroark In Generation 6 I Wonder How It Will Look Like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemon1998Ash View Post
    I Hope They Still Continue The Lucario/Zoroark Type Pokemon This Region.
    In The Sinnoh Region We Had Lucario. Which Is Based Off Of An Egyptain God Of Funerals, Anubis, Who Has The Head Of A Jackal.
    In The Unova Region We Had Zoroark. Which Is Likely Based Off Of An Kitsune Of Japanese Folklore, A Shape-Shifting Mythical Fox That Would Trick Unsuspecting Travelers For Fun.

    Sinnoh Region = Lucario
    Unova Region = Zoroark
    Generation 6 = ?????????

    If We Do Have A Pokemon Like Lucario/Zoroark In Generation 6 I Wonder How It Will Look Like.
    You mean like a bipedal canine? Not sure if Zoroark is more classed as a fox, but would love another type of bipedal wolf.

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    I don't think they will ever have a Pokemon that is supposed to be a human ancestor (and for good reason! That would ruin everything..). You can have a Pokemon that resembles a caveman, but that doesn't mean it's an ancestor

    Rock/Fighting Fossil would be cool. I wanted a Plesiosaur (like lapras but different), but then we've had heaps of Rock/Water. A Rock/Dark velociraptor would be nice.

    I feel like we already got a triceratops with Shieldon/Bastiodon.

    In terms of pairing Rock with other types for Fossils, things like Electric, Ghost, Psychic wouldn't really fit (but would be awesome).

    Regardless, we had an ocean and a sky fossil last gen, it's a good bet we'll be getting a land one again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GerudoPrince View Post
    I don't think they will ever have a Pokemon that is supposed to be a human ancestor (and for good reason! That would ruin everything..). You can have a Pokemon that resembles a caveman, but that doesn't mean it's an ancestor

    Rock/Fighting Fossil would be cool. I wanted a Plesiosaur (like lapras but different), but then we've had heaps of Rock/Water. A Rock/Dark velociraptor would be nice.

    I feel like we already got a triceratops with Shieldon/Bastiodon.

    In terms of pairing Rock with other types for Fossils, things like Electric, Ghost, Psychic wouldn't really fit (but would be awesome).

    Regardless, we had an ocean and a sky fossil last gen, it's a good bet we'll be getting a land one again.
    Who said the caveman pokemon had to look human? You could have a machop/timburr type pokemon with a club and that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemon1998Ash View Post
    I Hope They Still Continue The Lucario/Zoroark Type Pokemon This Region.
    In The Sinnoh Region We Had Lucario. Which Is Based Off Of An Egyptain God Of Funerals, Anubis, Who Has The Head Of A Jackal.
    In The Unova Region We Had Zoroark. Which Is Likely Based Off Of An Kitsune Of Japanese Folklore, A Shape-Shifting Mythical Fox That Would Trick Unsuspecting Travelers For Fun.

    Sinnoh Region = Lucario
    Unova Region = Zoroark
    Generation 6 = ?????????

    If We Do Have A Pokemon Like Lucario/Zoroark In Generation 6 I Wonder How It Will Look Like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GerudoPrince View Post
    I don't think they will ever have a Pokemon that is supposed to be a human ancestor (and for good reason! That would ruin everything..). You can have a Pokemon that resembles a caveman, but that doesn't mean it's an ancestor

    Rock/Fighting Fossil would be cool. I wanted a Plesiosaur (like lapras but different), but then we've had heaps of Rock/Water. A Rock/Dark velociraptor would be nice.

    I feel like we already got a triceratops with Shieldon/Bastiodon.
    In terms of pairing Rock with other types for Fossils, things like Electric, Ghost, Psychic wouldn't really fit (but would be awesome).

    Regardless, we had an ocean and a sky fossil last gen, it's a good bet we'll be getting a land one again.
    Ihat's what I wanted to explain, thanks. But I do like the pleseasaur idea. I would like to see an Aerodactyl evo/pre evo
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    I honestly though Zoroark was a type of werewolf when I first saw it's debut in the Pokemon Movie Z. If it's a fox, do you perhaps think we'll get a werewolf this generation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GerudoPrince View Post
    I don't think they will ever have a Pokemon that is supposed to be a human ancestor (and for good reason! That would ruin everything..). You can have a Pokemon that resembles a caveman, but that doesn't mean it's an ancestor
    I don't see how it would "ruin everything"; the humans in the story had to come from somewhere. Heck, there's already some implication of a past connection between humans and Pokémon in the hiker's myth from Platinum:

    "People and Pokémon, too, were but the same presence.
    As I understand it, people and Pokémon shared the spirit and awareness.
    They should have understood and accepted each other then.
    Because they shared the same spirit, people and Pokémon intermingled.
    People took the place of Pokémon, and the opposite also held true."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Zoroark View Post
    Listen, you gotta remember these things; always avoid claims of Fennekin being (or becoming) part Fighting-type, don't tick off mods, and NEVER (and I mean NEVER!) suggest that Arceus is the God of Pokemon when Endolise is online. If you somehow make this mistake, run for the hills before he attempts to murder you via tongue lashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endolise View Post
    I don't see how it would "ruin everything"; the humans in the story had to come from somewhere. Heck, there's already some implication of a past connection between humans and Pokémon in the hiker's myth from Platinum:

    "People and Pokémon, too, were but the same presence.
    As I understand it, people and Pokémon shared the spirit and awareness.
    They should have understood and accepted each other then.
    Because they shared the same spirit, people and Pokémon intermingled.
    People took the place of Pokémon, and the opposite also held true."
    Plus there are 2 pokemon based on pedophiles so a caveman wouldn't be bad at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GerudoPrince View Post
    Rock/Fighting Fossil would be cool. I wanted a Plesiosaur (like lapras but different), but then we've had heaps of Rock/Water. A Rock/Dark velociraptor would be nice.
    Agreed. I'd like to see something as agile and offensive as Aerodactyl, but on land this time. Perhaps the pre-evo could be a gallimimus, which is somewhat similar to a velociraptor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maya the Awesome
    Enigma Berry? I never even see one of those... okay, an item that's non-consumable (inorganic, for Theif/Trick, etc...), and available in normal gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRZLing View Post
    Plus there are 2 pokemon based on pedophiles so a caveman wouldn't be bad at all.
    Um... no, there aren't. That's stereotyping on the part of the fandom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Zoroark View Post
    Listen, you gotta remember these things; always avoid claims of Fennekin being (or becoming) part Fighting-type, don't tick off mods, and NEVER (and I mean NEVER!) suggest that Arceus is the God of Pokemon when Endolise is online. If you somehow make this mistake, run for the hills before he attempts to murder you via tongue lashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endolise View Post
    Um... no, there aren't. That's stereotyping on the part of the fandom.
    Drozee and Hypno are subliminaly pedophiles look at their dex entries and i think they like childrens dreams better if they aren't supposed to be pedophiles i dont know what they are and they should also change the dex entries to something less subliminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endolise View Post
    I don't see how it would "ruin everything"; the humans in the story had to come from somewhere. Heck, there's already some implication of a past connection between humans and Pokémon in the hiker's myth from Platinum:

    "People and Pokémon, too, were but the same presence.
    As I understand it, people and Pokémon shared the spirit and awareness.
    They should have understood and accepted each other then.
    Because they shared the same spirit, people and Pokémon intermingled.
    People took the place of Pokémon, and the opposite also held true."
    I think that quote is more about humans and Pokemon having the same goals/aims/ideals/wanting to live in harmony etc. but it could mean anything.

    I guess evolution in the real world ties animals and humans together...I just find it a weird concept in the Pokemon world (now added to a long list of weird concepts hahaha)


    Another idea: like the Zangoose/Seviper rivalry, what about a giant squid/sperm whale rivalry?

    And I think a Narwhal based Pokemon would be pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRZLing View Post
    Drozee and Hypno are subliminaly pedophiles look at their dex entries and i think they like childrens dreams better if they aren't supposed to be pedophiles i dont know what they are and they should also change the dex entries to something less subliminal.
    Drowzee is a tapir and Hypno is a hypnotist. Why on Earth would Game Freak deliberately make a Pokémon that is supposed to equate to a sick, depraved criminal? That's completely illogical.

    EDIT: And according to Bulbapedia, they're based off of dream-eating spirits from Japanese folklore known as baku.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Zoroark View Post
    Listen, you gotta remember these things; always avoid claims of Fennekin being (or becoming) part Fighting-type, don't tick off mods, and NEVER (and I mean NEVER!) suggest that Arceus is the God of Pokemon when Endolise is online. If you somehow make this mistake, run for the hills before he attempts to murder you via tongue lashing.

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    It would be interesting to have a porcupine pokemon. And for anyone going to say "say hellos sandshrew and sandslash" they are shrews and Shaymin is a hedgehog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endolise View Post
    Drowzee is a tapir and Hypno is a hypnotist. Why on Earth would Game Freak deliberately make a Pokémon that is supposed to equate to a sick, depraved criminal? That's completely illogical.

    EDIT: And according to Bulbapedia, they're based off of dream-eating spirits from Japanese folklore known as baku.
    well you learn something new everyday
    btw it would be cool to have a black bear pokemon, a flamingo, and a hammer head shark pokemon imo.
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