Dex Speculation/Discussion Thread

[Professor Squirtle]

In order for it to be Flying, Gamefreak would have to retcon what constitutes an Eeveelution. Their aesthetics are associated with their type, as is the prefix of their name. In fact, Eeveelutions epitomize the type they forecast through appearance; this is not a loose relation, either. The theory that there may be a new type is interesting and fun but demands logical representation, and there's just too much to analyze to reasonably conclude that they would create a new type when the meta-game doesn't really warrant it. But the showcasing of the mystery behind this Pokemon (a Pokemon whose revelation would automatically send us into speculation upon its type, as its evolutionary line epitomizes the relation to its physiology and type) also begs the question as to what type it is, and why it's important for that type to be hidden (in an Eeveelution, of all Pokemon).

The question as to why it's Flying bothers some not because we want to start fires and spew vitriol in the form of E-arguments, but because if it was Flying, it would undue the natural representation Eeveelutions bare; it make little sense in its representation as opposed to another more fitting type. Why it could be a new type is a theory based on the strange anonymity to its type. And yes, some of you can fallaciously draw similarities to other (new) Pokemon having types (originally) hidden from knowledge, but this is a Pokemon, as said ad nausem, that comes from a line that always reflects to us its type in a fashion that is undeniable. Gamefreak doesn't normally play guess-who with Eeveelutions, so that's why this debate forms. It's also fun to speculate and debate, and even somewhat healthy if we avoid shaming and blaming.

[Nyarlathotep]

The new Eevee is most likely a Normal-type Pokémon, nothing less, nothing more. The design fits totally with the type.

[MidnightFennekin]

So guys. Pretty sure some of you have seen this, but whatever.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/69695...mon-x/65153824

So what, we don't know of it's true or fake. I'm sick of people using false/unreliable ground to support the Flying Sylveon! I'm officialy on team flyer now, but we don't have to be snobs about it...

Pros of Flying, It's design and It's Battle Statistics (Stats, Abilities and Moves...)

- The name suits with it.
- It uses a variety of moves in it's trailer (Focus Blast(?) and Nasty Plot(?): Staraptor and Gengar's baby f*cked an Eevee.)
- It may be a more faster, special Staraptor.
- We have a lack of non-winged flying types.
- Could produce a new, Male ground/fighting Eeveeloution (I'm still wanting a fighter!)
- Matches with the chromosone feauture. It's evo method could be exclusive to X if the above happens, and both in 'Z'
- Skyla has a new mascot!

Cons

- It doesn't seem very flying type like
- Many fans desire another type.
- It has many common weaknesses (Focus Blast, Nasty Plot, Hurricane and another Special move and Choice Item will kill all though!)

[SasakiThePikachu]

I think Sylveon might be a Bug type. Hear me out.

Original Japanese/French naming is clearly centered around the word 'nymph', nature-dwelling Greek mythological females. There were oceanic and river nymphs, but when most think 'nymph' they think 'woodland'.

The 'sylv' in Sylveon could come from 'sylvan', meaning an association with woodland, or idyllic rural area.

Since we've had a Grass type Eeveelution, the only other Pokemon associated with woodlands and forestry that I can think of are Bug types. Add to this that 'nymphe' in French means the pupa stage of a bug, and hey presto.

Of course this is based purely off etymology, not staring at its design and thinking 'wow this sure looks like a normal or flying type' o_O All I can say is that if it is a normal or flying type, then its etymology is pretty freakin weird/nonsensical, and the punny/obvious naming has been a theme in Pokemon since forever. So why would they change that now.

[sparkedglory]

So what, we don't know of it's true or fake. I'm sick of people using false/unreliable ground to support the Flying Sylveon! I'm officialy on team flyer now, but we don't have to be snobs about it...

Pros of Flying, It's design and It's Battle Statistics (Stats, Abilities and Moves...)

- The name suits with it.
- It uses a variety of moves in it's trailer (Focus Blast(?) and Nasty Plot(?): Staraptor and Gengar's baby f*cked an Eevee.)
- It may be a more faster, special Staraptor.
- We have a lack of non-winged flying types.
- Could produce a new, Male ground/fighting Eeveeloution (I'm still wanting a fighter!)
- Matches with the chromosone feauture. It's evo method could be exclusive to X if the above happens, and both in 'Z'
- Skyla has a new mascot!

Cons

- It doesn't seem very flying type like
- Many fans desire another type.
- It has many common weaknesses (Focus Blast, Nasty Plot, Hurricane and another Special move and Choice Item will kill all though!)

I would like to thank you for continuing to read the other posts and stop to see where I said that I didn't believe that it was real either. Seriously thank you for not jumping to conclusions. I'm so sick of people doing that.

Edit: besides I posted why I thought sylveon was flying earlier. And that link had nothing to do with it

[confuser987]

I think Sylveon might be a Bug type. Hear me out.

Original Japanese/French naming is clearly centered around the word 'nymph', nature-dwelling Greek mythological females. There were oceanic and river nymphs, but when most think 'nymph' they think 'woodland'.

The 'sylv' in Sylveon could come from 'sylvan', meaning an association with woodland, or idyllic rural area.

Since we've had a Grass type Eeveelution, the only other Pokemon associated with woodlands and forestry that I can think of are Bug types. Add to this that 'nymphe' in French means the pupa stage of a bug, and hey presto.

Of course this is based purely off etymology, not staring at its design and thinking 'wow this sure looks like a normal or flying type' o_O

Well, its eyes are too damn big!

[yanis sacrain]

The weird card attack was trump card. It's a move Eevee learns late on

oh really? *Major Facepalm* lol

[Sneasel Lover]

So what, we don't know of it's true or fake. I'm sick of people using false/unreliable ground to support the Flying Sylveon! I'm officialy on team flyer now, but we don't have to be snobs about it...

Pros of Flying, It's design and It's Battle Statistics (Stats, Abilities and Moves...)

- The name suits with it.
- It uses a variety of moves in it's trailer (Focus Blast(?) and Nasty Plot(?): Staraptor and Gengar's baby f*cked an Eevee.)
- It may be a more faster, special Staraptor.
- We have a lack of non-winged flying types.
- Could produce a new, Male ground/fighting Eeveeloution (I'm still wanting a fighter!)
- Matches with the chromosone feauture. It's evo method could be exclusive to X if the above happens, and both in 'Z'
- Skyla has a new mascot!

You said that you think it's bad that people are using false/unreliable ground to support Flying-type, yet six of your seven reasons for it being Flying-type are just that, false/unreliable...

[confuser987]

Even though Trump Card is a horrible move, Meowth line having a card move would really make sense as it always reminds me of riches and gambling.

[MidnightFennekin]

I think Sylveon might be a Bug type. Hear me out.

Original Japanese/French naming is clearly centered around the word 'nymph', nature-dwelling Greek mythological females. There were oceanic and river nymphs, but when most think 'nymph' they think 'woodland'.

The 'sylv' in Sylveon could come from 'sylvan', meaning an association with woodland, or idyllic rural area.

Since we've had a Grass type Eeveelution, the only other Pokemon associated with woodlands and forestry that I can think of are Bug types. Add to this that 'nymphe' in French means the pupa stage of a bug, and hey presto.

Of course this is based purely off etymology, not staring at its design and thinking 'wow this sure looks like a normal or flying type' o_O All I can say is that if it is a normal or flying type, then its etymology is pretty freakin weird/nonsensical, and the punny/obvious naming has been a theme in Pokemon since forever. So why would they change that now.

Then it would make Espeon, Umbreon and Leafeon it's b*tches.

I'm Ok as long as it has a high attacking stat, decent speed, a good ability and can survive in ubers for three turns.


Anyone wanting more doggies/foxxies/wolfies? I mean I know we have 12 (Eevee, Eeveeloutions plus Fennekin line.) but I want more!

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

Even though Trump Card is a horrible move, Meowth line having a card move would really make sense as it always reminds me of riches and gambling.

I wouldn't say horrible, it's good if used the right way. But, isn't Trump Card like your secret weapon or last resort?

[confuser987]

Even if there was a new light and sound type, what comes first to mine is Sylveon being sound instead of light.

[mtie123]

oh really? *Major Facepalm* lol

I wouldn't worry about it only 3 pokemon learn it by level up so it's a rare move to see.

I think it's a fighting type for a couple of reasons 1. use's a move similar to focus blast (granted that's not much basis for argument) 2. it's ribbons give me a mienshao feeling tbh and could be used to deal damage. 3 and my main reason it would tie all the eeveelutions together because it would mean each eeveelution would have a strength over one of the others (espeon is the only current eeveelution to not have an advantage over one of the others)

[FallBird]

You said that you think it's bad that people are using false/unreliable ground to support Flying-type, yet six of your seven reasons for it being Flying-type are just that, false/unreliable...

They said Pros of it being flying, not Reasons Why It Is. Hence why they included things like Skyla having a new mascot. Clearly, that would have nothing to do with making it a flying type, or else it must be a water type because it shares its color scheme with Milotic.

[SoulOfSilver]

How about a new type? after seeing that weird card attack i think a new type might be present!

Im going with either Dimesion or Mystic(magic).

What do you guys think???

Even thought the attack was Trump card, I agree that it could be a new type. As I said before, my money's on Fairy type. We have Dragons, Bugs and Ghosts, so Fairy could make sense. Otherwise, I'm leaning toward good old Normal type, which I wouldn't be to thrilled about.

[MidnightFennekin]

You said that you think it's bad that people are using false/unreliable ground to support Flying-type, yet six of your seven reasons for it being Flying-type are just that, false/unreliable...

I meant false/unreliable ground from people who claim to be from GF or connected to it. obviously, they are not .


Anyway, I hope we get a magician based Poke, with Trump Card, Teleport and all!

[gpt11]

I wouldn't say horrible, it's good if used the right way. But, isn't Trump Card like your secret weapon or last resort?

Trump card gains more power ranging from 40 - 200 depending on how much pp you have left

5 x pp = 40bp
1 x bp = 200bp

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

Trump card gains more power ranging from 40 - 200 depending on how much pp you have left

5 x pp = 40bp
1 x bp = 200bp

Yes, I am aware of its power increase. Which is why I like it.

[charlieburly]

Hey guys! I am new over here
Have you read this theory?

http://pokemon-xy-news.tumblr.com/po...round-not-mine

[sparkedglory]

Hey guys! I am new over here
Have you read this theory?

http://pokemon-xy-news.tumblr.com/po...round-not-mine

That was posted earlier today