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What you just said is akin to saying that GameFreak should add in a Heat type when Fire already does a good job of following the motif of heat and flames. Therefore, redundancy wastes time, is inefficient and adds nothing new to the game.
I don't think you understand how bad Ice and Poison types are. Ice types are typically bad due to their weaknesses to commonly used types meaning their defenses are more brittle. They need help from a defensive standpoint. Same goes for Poison, where it's strong defensively but lacks the offensive pressure found in other types that makes them so dangerous (or at the very least, decent). It's not simply a sake of wanting Pokemon to be better because they like them...it's because they are actually quite bad. You just lost credibility by speculating that Light types should be considered irregardless of Ice/Poison deficiencies because "people only want them to be stronger because they like them as Pokemon."
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I want a Poison/Electric type maybe an evolution to Galvantula
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Ice/Poison would be an interesting type combination that's never been done before. I'm at a loss for a specific design idea for the combo though. Any ideas?
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2) Haha you are totally right about the poison part, I cannot believe I said that. The ground/rock thing has a lot of contributing factors which could easily be debatable. A
I don't think we should bring in another type to make more weakness's. I thought you were trying to imply if there were types added that it would have to help Ice and Poison pokemon. Poison and Ice type pokemon aren't really that bad actually. Sure they have some weakness to common types, but someone had to get that. It's just unfortunate that it was Poison and Ice. They hold there own just like every other Pokemon.
3) If you think light and dark as a lack of sense then that's ridiculous. It's like anything, when there is a darkness type or thing there is a light type or thing. It's just carried over to Pokemon.
4) because they were trying to fix up the psychic type. Adding steel and dark obviously fixed it up.. They could of used light, heck they could of used anything.
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I'm waiting for a few of the type combos that haven't been made yet:
Steel/Ghost would be awesome, takes care of that fighting weakness, resistance to ghost and dark, maybe even give it levitate, and poof! pokemon with one weakness
a reliable Ghost/Bug
Ghost/Psychic double weak to dark I know
Ghost/Rock no fighting weakness
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Why do so many people want a light type? Adding new types will only complicate the game further. Do you remember every single type disadvantage and advantage all the time? For example, I often forget that poison resists bug.
Supporters of the light type argue that there is no proof that anything bad will happen by adding a new type. But something bad could happen right? So why risk destabilizing the game by adding a new type, when everything runs smoothly the way it is now?
EDIT: sorry, I meant poison resists bug.
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Ice/Poison may be the type combination I'm most intrigued by since the idea came up on the last page. Some type of animal with quills maybe would work to. Fire/Water is another type combination that would be interesting. Some people have suggested Torkoal gaining that typing with a new evolution, that would be cool, and would certainly hold some interesting potential for the Anime.
Just for everyones interest I do not want a light type, I do not want another type. I am happy how everything is now but I am not willing to discount that it could happen.
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Many moons ago, I created a fire/water pokémon based on a Lava Lamp. Back then, it seemed massively unrealistic (and still does, really), but, since Trubbish... Who knows?!
And as for new types... I've always been a fan of 'Sound'. I know many people are against it, but I thought I implemented it fairly well in my fake gen. Strong against Ice (Shatters it), Psychic (loose their concentration) and I think Rock or Steel too (for the same reason as Ice). The only weakness I can remember right now is Poison (such as how being ill, and having a sore throat, is a massive detriment to vocalists!), although I think there were a few more.
AAAAAAAND getting slightly back to topic. I'd like to see many more unconventional type combos (as per Mr XY, although really, right now, I think whatever he / they have been saying is kinda irrelevant). I think this was started in GenV, with Electric / Bug, Grass / Steel, for instance. But, from the top of my head, things like Poison / Fighting would be cool, as would Dark / Electricity. And more Flying combinations that don't involve Normal, Water or Bug.
I'm not against new types, as long as they are good and balance the types we have now.
And flying should be changed to air type.
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"3) Light does absolutely NOTHING to help Poison and Ice deficiencies. First off Light can't even pass through Ice considering it has an opaque surface. Therefore, it doesn't melt as opposed to an obvious heat source like Fire. And when was there ever a time that Light was ever used as a "cure" for Poison...? It's thinking like this that makes absolutely no sense. The best way to solve Poison/Ice's problems would be to give it some better moves (Poison DESPERATELY needs this...it worked for Bug-types), and nerf some weaknesses that GF thinks may not make sense (this was done for bug types). The End-All-Be-All solution should not be to simply add new types."
I hate to tell you but light can pass through ice. Ice is not an opaque surface/substance. Ice is frozen water and light can pass through it to a degree. you will also get some reflection from the surface of ice. Light, which is energy, will actually melt ice. Our sun does it all the time actually
I'm don't support new types but I wouldn't be disappointed if a new one was introduced since this is Gamefreak after all, a money making machine that develops games at a great pace 90% of the time personally (I never found Battle Revolution, Snap, or the Rumble Series to be interesting). They are sure able to find some way for a new type to continue the balance even if it looks intimidating at first.
On topic, I have seen a few wanting this generation to just be new types since reusing old ones is mediocre. The problem is that if we just had one generation of new types, the next one is going to reuse typings without any doubt since all the type combinations would have been used already in the last generation so I believe introducing at least 3 new type combinations will work though I can't recall what type combos haven't been used yet.
As for a new Pokemon, I like to see a skeleton-esque Pokemon with shackles/chains and torn up clothing as a Ghost/Steel. I know the shackles aren't much of to prove a Steel type but I can see them as a form of this Pokedex entry:
*insert Ghost/Steel skeleton*
A Pokemon that was formed from a dead spirit of a jailed prisoner. It's chains contains its energy from corrupting. This Pokemon now seeks for the person or decesdant who imprisoned it.
And, just for the sake of talking hypothetically, I feel like Ice should be left out of things weak to Sound, just because it's got enough weaknesses already. Being SE against Steel, Psychic, an Rock, and maybe Fighting (for same reason as Psychic; loses concentration) would be good enough and it would be weak to Water, Poison, and 1 or 2 other things, like Ghost or something.
Well, anyway, what do you guys think about the Dragon type Pokemon that will come from Gen 6?
Personally, I think Sylveon is already one of them
But one of the rumors mentioned a unicorn-like Dragon, and Mr. XY mentioned the Clover Dragon.
I would like a Normal/Dragon type done (maybe for Dunsparce, who knows?!)
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I'm pretty excited at the thought of a new type, however I don't think that Light or Sound are what's going to happen.
I also need to correct you, because Sound actually moves much better through water than air, as sound is a vibration of particles & particles are much closer together in liquids and solids (which actually counters my argument for rock/ground/steel lol) and so it can travel much further. It's because of this that whales can communicate miles & miles away, and earthquakes in California can be detected in Russia! Very interesting stuff
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