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    So, in anticipation of this reveal Saturday, I looked back on DP and BW prerelease info, and I found BW extremely similar to XY!

    In February 2010, Zoroark and Zorua were announced / In February 2013, Sylveon was announced
    In that CoroCoro for both, more information was going to be announced in the March issue

    In March 2010 and 2013, no new info! Hahaha

    This is when it gets creepy: In the beginning of April 2010, the show Pokemon Sunday showed exclusive footage of Black and White before CoroCoro. Serebii even admits himself that it was an unlikely source from his post. (This sounds oddly similar to now, how Pokemon Smash is revealing a new Pokemon with potentially something else...)
    Later that month, the starters, cover legendaries, screenshots, and protagonist art were revealed.

    Now, since Chespin, Fennekin, Froakie, Yveltal, and Xerneas have already been announced, it differs from BW prerelease information, but I feel like there is some sort of pattern here. Hopefully we get something that ties in with the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmbipomMaster View Post
    So, in anticipation of this reveal Saturday, I looked back on DP and BW prerelease info, and I found BW extremely similar to XY!

    In February 2010, Zoroark and Zorua were announced / In February 2013, Sylveon was announced
    In that CoroCoro for both, more information was going to be announced in the March issue

    In March 2010 and 2013, no new info! Hahaha

    This is when it gets creepy: In the beginning of April 2010, the show Pokemon Sunday showed exclusive footage of Black and White before CoroCoro. Serebii even admits himself that it was an unlikely source from his post. (This sounds oddly similar to now, how Pokemon Smash is revealing a new Pokemon with potentially something else...)
    Later that month, the starters, cover legendaries, screenshots, and protagonist art were revealed.

    Now, since Chespin, Fennekin, Froakie, Yveltal, and Xerneas have already been announced, it differs from BW prerelease information, but I feel like there is some sort of pattern here. Hopefully we get something that ties in with the movie.
    We've also seen some areas of the region and etc when the trailer came out, so in a way it isn't the best to compare it to BW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiK SauCe View Post
    We also some areas of the region and etc when the trailer came out, so in a way it isn't the best to compare it to BW.
    I'm saying chronologically, it's taking the same route. I understand XY is taking a whole new route (what with the worldwide release and all) but the "prerelease formula" is starting patternize itself. [I understand twice isn't a pattern; it's a coincidence, but still]

    We'll probably get a Pokemon that is in Movie 16 that has a side role, similar to Munchlax, Chatot, and Buizel in Gen IV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmbipomMaster View Post
    I'm saying chronologically, it's taking the same route. I understand XY is taking a whole new route (what with the worldwide release and all) but the "prerelease formula" is starting patternize itself. [I understand twice isn't a pattern; it's a coincidence, but still]

    We'll probably get a Pokemon that is in Movie 16 that has a side role, similar to Munchlax, Chatot, and Buizel in Gen IV.
    I may not be exact on this one, but i'm pretty sure the starters and legendaries were revealed last in BW. The only reason the Zorua/Zoroark were released was because of the movie in which they were the star of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiK SauCe View Post
    I may not be exact on this one, but i'm pretty sure the starters and legendaries were revealed last in BW. The only reason the Zorua/Zoroark were released was because of the movie in which they were the star of.
    No; they were revealed in mid-April 2010. In DP, Palkia/Dialga and Turtwig/Chimchar/Piplup were among the last things prereleased.
    BW had the Starters and Zekrom/Reshiram revealed after Zoroark and Zorua.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiK SauCe View Post
    I may not be exact on this one, but i'm pretty sure the starters and legendaries were revealed last in BW. The only reason the Zorua/Zoroark were released was because of the movie in which they were the star of.
    No, the 5th gen starters were one of the first Pokemon revealed in BW, right after Zorua and Zoroark IIRC. I don't remember when Reshiram and Zekrom were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiK SauCe View Post
    I may not be exact on this one, but i'm pretty sure the starters and legendaries were revealed last in BW. The only reason the Zorua/Zoroark were released was because of the movie in which they were the star of.
    I'm not sure what you mean.

    The three basic stage starters was the 2nd group of new Pokemon we found out about in 5th gen. The Legendaries being the 3rd group of new Pokemon.

    While it does depend on your definition (of officially being revealed or not), the final evolution of the starters were the last group of 5th gen Pokemon to be revealed, along with Tranquill, Daramaka, and Frillish. If I'm right the last official group of Pokemon were like Roggenrola and Bouffalant and the likes in the coro-coro that revealed the whole bunch.

    Edit: I'm slightly wrong, the images of Tranquil, Daramaka, Frillish, and the three final starter showed up earlier. I was looking at the release date the pre-release date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    No, the 5th gen starters were one of the first Pokemon revealed in BW, right after Zorua and Zoroark IIRC. I don't remember when Reshiram and Zekrom were.
    Reshiram and Zekrom were before starters, but after Zoroark iirc.

    Anyway, I can see either a Sableye evo or some other Gen VI Normal-type Pokemon revealed, so it can be in the Movie 16 ecosystem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean.

    The three basic stage starters was the 2nd group of new Pokemon we found out about in 5th gen. The Legendaries being the 3rd group of new Pokemon.

    While it does depend on your definition (of officially being revealed or not), the final evolution of the starters were the last group of 5th gen Pokemon to be revealed, along with Tranquill, Daramaka, and Frillish. If I'm right the last official group of Pokemon were like Roggenrola and Bouffalant and the likes in the coro-coro that revealed the whole bunch.
    I had thought reshiram and Zekrom were revealed closer to the games release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpiK SauCe View Post
    I had thought reshiram and Zekrom were revealed closer to the games release.
    No they were internationally revealed in May, on May 28th.

    The starters were May 12th (but apparently seen on May 8th)

    Quote Originally Posted by AmbipomMaster View Post
    Reshiram and Zekrom were before starters, but after Zoroark iirc.
    Only internationally, the starters were revealed in CoroCoro of the month of May BEFORE Zekrom and Reshiram.
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    Lightbulb happy Cadbury cream day every one!

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    is it me or are there barely any pokemon that look like rabbits or bunnies?

    I think it would be cool if they add a more adorable bunny besides Buneary or Lopunny

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    I hope that we get a Ghost/Fire Will-o'-Wisp Pokemon. One of the first moves it learn? Will-o'-Wisp!

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    Uhhmm Im sorry But Zoroark Was The First 5gen Pokemon. And With His Release Zorua Was released Too. The First Image Was A Silloutte Of Zoroark With All The RPG Games around him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightFennekin View Post
    I hope that we get a Ghost/Fire Will-o'-Wisp Pokemon. One of the first moves it learn? Will-o'-Wisp!
    We already had the Chandelure line in gen 5
    I don't think they give a fire/ghost in gen 6...
    But it would be great if we had one ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bariokie View Post
    We already had the Chandelure line in gen 5
    I don't think they give a fire/ghost in gen 6...
    But it would be great if we had one ;P
    We had Tangela, a Pure Grass type in Gen I
    Then we got Bellossom, another Pure Grass in Gen II

    GF can reuse types if they want :P

    Anyway, I really want Sylveon's type to be revealed this month. Its been way too long!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebushmaster View Post
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    is it me or are there barely any pokemon that look like rabbits or bunnies?

    I think it would be cool if they add a more adorable bunny besides Buneary or Lopunny

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    The link won't open for me so i dunno what it is, but i like the idea of more rabbits or hares, maybe an ice type?

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    To me it will probably be the Bird or Sylveon's Counterpart(highly doubt new starter evos),knowing GameFreak,they will probably troll us and only show us the design and we will have to wait to CoroCoro where types will be mentioned(and fingers crossed about Sylveon's Type this Month)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Hydreigon View Post
    To me it will probably be the Bird or Sylveon's Counterpart(highly doubt new starter evos),knowing GameFreak,they will probably troll us and only show us the design and we will have to wait to CoroCoro where types will be mentioned(and fingers crossed about Sylveon's Type this Month)
    Well, on the topic of Eeveelutions, has anyone else noticed that each one represents a certain stat or set of stats? Flareon is based on offensive stats, Jolteon is based on Speed, and Vaporeon is based on defensive stats. When Special was split into Sp. Atk and Sp. Def, we Got Espeon (better in Sp. Atk) and Umbreon (better at Sp. Def.) When it got narrowed down even further, with the Special/Physical split, we got Leafeon (better Attack) and Glaceon (better Sp. Atk.) My bet is that they're going to make another distinction - possibly Direct/Indirect attacks. If that's the case, Sylveon looks like it would specialize in Indirect attacks, and its counterpart will probably be more inclined towards Direct attacks. I'm also betting they're both Normal-type, and are gender-based evolutions. Possibly level up a male/female Eevee in a certain location/with a certain Item? Dunno. That's what I think though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiningsloth13 View Post
    Well, on the topic of Eeveelutions, has anyone else noticed that each one represents a certain stat or set of stats? Flareon is based on offensive stats, Jolteon is based on Speed, and Vaporeon is based on defensive stats. When Special was split into Sp. Atk and Sp. Def, we Got Espeon (better in Sp. Atk) and Umbreon (better at Sp. Def.) When it got narrowed down even further, with the Special/Physical split, we got Leafeon (better Attack) and Glaceon (better Sp. Atk.) My bet is that they're going to make another distinction - possibly Direct/Indirect attacks. If that's the case, Sylveon looks like it would specialize in Indirect attacks, and its counterpart will probably be more inclined towards Direct attacks. I'm also betting they're both Normal-type, and are gender-based evolutions. Possibly level up a male/female Eevee in a certain location/with a certain Item? Dunno. That's what I think though.
    That's a cool way to see it. I could see them making another distinction in stats/attacks. Maybe the bond thing alluded to in the first trailer will play apart, kinda like a new friendship meter (not an overhaul, but an addition). I can't see GF, though, making Sylveon a gender based Eeveelution. Why? At the moment, according to Serebii's BW Pokedex, Eevee has only a 12.5% chance of being female. I don't think that they will change that, especially since most of them have a feminine quality to them now.

    I'm going to laugh if this yellow oval if actually the silhouette. Maybe an Exeggcute pre evolution with just one egg? Maybe a new egg Pokemon or some other Pokemon that could be based on something that is in the shape of an ellipse/oval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaziken10285 View Post
    That's a cool way to see it. I could see them making another distinction in stats/attacks. Maybe the bond thing alluded to in the first trailer will play apart, kinda like a new friendship meter (not an overhaul, but an addition). I can't see GF, though, making Sylveon a gender based Eeveelution. Why? At the moment, according to Serebii's BW Pokedex, Eevee has only a 12.5% chance of being female. I don't think that they will change that, especially since most of them have a feminine quality to them now.
    But the gender ratio could change. Who's to say there aren't 5,000 female Eevees in this region to the males' 1,000?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    But the gender ratio could change. Who's to say there aren't 5,000 female Eevees in this region to the males' 1,000?
    1. Possibly they can introduce some technique in finding specific genders of Pokemon.

    2. OR Eevee are common in 6th generation land as opposed to uncommon, or rare.

    3. Or Gamefreak doesn't care that you have to work to find a female Eevee. Because not everything should be handed to the player on a silver platter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtie123 View Post
    The link won't open for me so i dunno what it is, but i like the idea of more rabbits or hares, maybe an ice type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowPokeBroKing View Post
    But the gender ratio could change. Who's to say there aren't 5,000 female Eevees in this region to the males' 1,000?
    True, I guess that they could do that. I guess another option would be to implement an area where a Pokemon will always be female or male when hatched there. Am I just misremembering, or wasn't one of Sinnoh's towns like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebushmaster View Post
    just fixed the link sorry about that.

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    Maybe this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tic_Hare_1.jpg They have huge back feet which could utilize kicking moves such as double kick? Maybe ice/fighting?

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