Dex Speculation/Discussion Thread

[Rayze Darr]

I guess thats true. But in the TCG, the fossil card itself was treated as the basic pokemon, then a pokemon like kabuto(stage 1 evolution card), then kabutops (stage 2). An evolution would then be stage 3.

I guess the question there, then, is if GF would make decisions in the games for the sake of supporting the TCG.

[Endolise]

I guess thats true. But in the TCG, the fossil card itself was treated as the basic pokemon, then a pokemon like kabuto(stage 1 evolution card), then kabutops (stage 2). An evolution would then be stage 3.

Didn't they abandon that setup when the Black & White sets first came out?

[squrtle]

I know what you're saying, but I can't see it happening. Hasn't happened up until this point, why do it now?

To be fair it took them 3 gens to realise Tangela, Electabuzz and Magmar needed to evolve.

[MidnightFennekin]

I'm hoping for a Pokemon based on the Mimic Octopus. Intresting animal, and we already have the move mimic. Maybe it'll be a competitive Ditto? I'd like it to be Water/???, with its second type and a sig move based on the main type of an opponent it beat.

[Malcolm Belmont]

I'm hoping for a Pokemon based on the Mimic Octopus. Intresting animal, and we already have the move mimic. Maybe it'll be a competitive Ditto? I'd like it to be Water/???, with its second type and a sig move based on the main type of an opponent it beat.

Personally..i think we need to see more Octopus Pokemon..Octillery was awesome so i would love to see another Octopus Pokemon

[PaddysTurtwigFanClub]

I'm hoping for a Pokemon based on the Mimic Octopus. Intresting animal, and we already have the move mimic. Maybe it'll be a competitive Ditto? I'd like it to be Water/???, with its second type and a sig move based on the main type of an opponent it beat.

Yea the mimic octopus would be such a cool pokemon. Say its water/??? and has one signature move. Normally the move is water but when it defeats a pokemon it changes to the first type of the defeated pokemon. Of course pokemon like this would have to learn other moves to keep it usable. Who wants a grass / dragon this gen?

[swedefish]

Who wants a grass / dragon this gen?

This is my dream. Well, I am not all that fond of dragon types in general but being a grass loyalist I'd love to see a powerful grass type that introduces this awesome type to more gamers.

[Nacreous]

A leafy sea dragon would make a great dragon/grass...and dont bring up kingdra

[OceanicLanturn]

A leafy sea dragon would make a great dragon/grass...and dont bring up kingdra

Leafy sea dragon? Why not just make a dragon-who-protects-the-forest dragon?

[Bus]

That would make more sense than a 'sea' dragon lol. You could make it look like some of those Chinese Dragons (like Shenron) where its antler horn things are tree branches and there's poisonous bulbs along its body.

[JBreese]

I like the grass/dragon idea I think grass in general could use a bit more love.

[Hankka]

Leafy sea dragon? Why not just make a dragon-who-protects-the-forest dragon?

Celebi was a forest protector (though not a dragon). If the trailer is anything to go by I'd say there is a pretty good chance that Xerneas will end up being a forest protector in X and Y.

[OceanicLanturn]

Celebi was a forest protector (though not a dragon). If the trailer is anything to go by I'd say there is a pretty good chance that Xerneas will end up being a forest protector in X and Y.

Well, he could always use an assistant... or minions.

I mean,it could also be a dragon that lives in a particular forest. For example? Zoroark that lives in Lostlorn, Pikachu in Viridan.. .etc.

It could also be Altaria size?

[Nacreous]

Leafy sea dragon? Why not just make a dragon-who-protects-the-forest dragon?

Because it's such a cliche...

A pkmn based on the leafy sea dragon could live underwater and be Dragon/Grass...and it could also use Water type moves,as well as Grass and Dragon moves,among others.It would be unique and interesting.

I imagine it having a low speed stat,but high defenses and SpAtk

[JBreese]

So something with a seaweed look going on? Terrorising all the little magikarps at the bottom of the ocean

[Nacreous]

So something with a seaweed look going on? Terrorising all the little magikarps at the bottom of the ocean

Yeah,a slow,stealthy predator

[Hidden Power]

Because it's such a cliche...

A pkmn based on the leafy sea dragon could live underwater and be Dragon/Grass...and it could also use Water type moves,as well as Grass and Dragon moves,among others.It would be unique and interesting.

I imagine it having a low speed stat,but high defenses and SpAtk

Many of the Dragon type Pokemon are already capable of learning Water type moves, so there's nothing particularly outstanding about a Grass/Dragon leafy sea dragon being able to do that. A forest based Grass/Dragon is what comes to my mind immediately even if it may sound cliche, since it's a simple idea that can be executed easily. I don't mind a Grass/Dragon leafy sea dragon, but it would be another one of those Pokemon ideas that can fit into too many types. Besides, why can't it be Grass/Water instead? The combination is rare, free of x4 weakness, and competitively more viable given a decent stats spread and/or ability.

[Nacreous]

Many of the Dragon type Pokemon are already capable of learning Water type moves, so there's nothing particularly outstanding about a Grass/Dragon leafy sea dragon being able to do that. A forest based Grass/Dragon is what comes to my mind immediately even if it may sound cliche, since it's a simple idea that can be executed easily. I don't mind a Grass/Dragon leafy sea dragon, but it would be another one of those Pokemon ideas that can fit into too many types. Besides, why can't it be Grass/Water instead? The combination is rare, free of x4 weakness, and competitively more viable given a decent stats spread and/or ability.

Because it has seaweed growing from its ***,that's why.And not that many dragons can learn water type attacks.The ones that do are the Dratini line,Salamence and Hydreigon.But by water moves I don't mean Surf and Waterfall.Aqua Jet,Water Spout,Scald,Dive,Hydro Pump...all of these would be awesome.

[Mr. Cuddles]

Because it has seaweed growing from its ***,that's why.And not that many dragons can learn water type attacks.The ones that do are the Dratini line,Salamence and Hydreigon.But by water moves I don't mean Surf and Waterfall.

Lati@s, garchomp, hydreigon, haxorus, palkia, kingdra, druddigon and dragonite can all learn surf. Imo a forest dragon would be a much more logical and a better choice than a grass sea dragon.

[Nacreous]

Lati@s, garchomp, hydreigon, haxorus, palkia, kingdra, druddigon and dragonite can all learn surf. Imo a forest dragon would be a much more logical and a better choice than a grass sea dragon.

Ok,whatever...have your tree hugging dragon