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    I also want Pokemon based off of Night and Day to be brought back, like encounter rates were different based off of time of day, that would be nice. Also, more evolutions based on time.

    Agreed, more catching contests and more move tutors sound fun, also make shiny Pokemon a little easier to get...


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    I want a big change in the "re-used"story; instead of people trying to control a Pokemon to achieve their goal, we have a Pokémon trying to control humans to achieve it's goal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Requiem View Post
    I also want Pokemon based off of Night and Day to be brought back, like encounter rates were different based off of time of day, that would be nice. Also, more evolutions based on time.

    Agreed, more catching contests and more move tutors sound fun, also make shiny Pokemon a little easier to get...
    i liked that
    they could make it even more complex with seasons and night/day time encounter rates
    it would make for an interesting nuzlocke

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyOfOneIX View Post
    enough r/s/e talk bring back catching contests from g/s/c
    Safari Zone > Bug Catching Contest

    Quote Originally Posted by Yveltal96 View Post
    also i want to be able to delete HMs without a move deleter because i do not want to delete a good move for another move i need when one space is occupied by a crappy HM move
    Won't happen, allowing HMs to be deleted can allow you to trap yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post



    Won't happen, allowing HMs to be deleted can allow you to trap yourself.
    Not exactly. HMs can't break, so you could teach it again to a Pokemon and escape.
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    There should be also option to call-back to trainers you have defeated. Nigh-day option with pokemon changes is also great! Gold... good memories ;( Bring back the safari zone! That was really cool thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Won't happen, allowing HMs to be deleted can allow you to trap yourself.
    Just because there's potential for something to happen doesn't mean that it won't happen anyway. Who's to say that GameFreak maybe thought Infinite TMs would've made Pokemarts useless (outside of buying that one TM), yet that didn't stop them for implementing for convenience's sake. Allowing Pokemon to forget HM moves would help a great deal in deciding which movesets you want your Pokemon have against trainers (and eliminate the need for HM Slaves).

    Plus if you get trapped, then you should find your way out, not have the game spoon-feed your way out. Isn't that what an adventure is about? Additionally, it's not like HM moves are 1-time only...so you can reteach them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningWhiteKyurem View Post
    Plus if you get trapped, then you should find your way out, not have the game spoon-feed your way out. Isn't that what an adventure is about? Additionally, it's not like HM moves are 1-time only...so you can reteach them anyway.
    Not what I mean by "trapped". Consider the following scenario:

    -You trade over a Pokemon that knows Surf before you acquire the HM.
    -You use Surf to reach the cliff on Rt. 19 (note that there is no way back without using Surf again).
    -You, for whatever reason, decide to delete Surf.

    How will you leave that section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Not what I mean by "trapped". Consider the following scenario:

    -You trade over a Pokemon that knows Surf before you acquire the HM.
    -You use Surf to reach the cliff on Rt. 19 (note that there is no way back without using Surf again).
    -You, for whatever reason, decide to delete Surf.

    How will you leave that section?
    That scenario doesn't really make sense considering that you usually get HMs before beating the gym badge necessary to use it in the overworld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Not what I mean by "trapped". Consider the following scenario:

    -You trade over a Pokemon that knows Surf before you acquire the HM.
    -You use Surf to reach the cliff on Rt. 19 (note that there is no way back without using Surf again).
    -You, for whatever reason, decide to delete Surf.

    How will you leave that section?
    You can delete an HM? And throw it away from your bag? I don't think that's what BWK was talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningWhiteKyurem View Post
    That scenario doesn't really make sense considering that you usually get HMs before beating the gym badge necessary to use it in the overworld.
    Gym badges aren't required to use HMs anymore, remember?

    Quote Originally Posted by GenosectArceus View Post
    You can delete an HM? And throw it away from your bag? I don't think that's what BWK was talking about.
    I know it's not, but that's a pretty good reason why HMs aren't deletable, it's a way of idiotproofing the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Gym badges aren't required to use HMs anymore, remember?

    I know it's not, but that's a pretty good reason why HMs aren't deletable, it's a way of idiotproofing the game.
    Forgot about that, but honestly, I don't see why the game has to "protect" you from doing that. If you deleted the move and you don't have the HM to reteach it then you deserve to be stuck. I don't see what's so special about HM considering that TMs are also infinite and can be deleted/taught over, add that HMs have gotten insignificant (to the point where you only need Surf/Waterfall/Fly as the major HMs...whereas something requiring Cut is mitigated by the game providing you another "difficult" pathway etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningWhiteKyurem View Post
    Forgot about that, but honestly, I don't see why the game has to "protect" you from doing that.
    Perhaps because this is a children's franchise and some fans would in fact be stupid enough to pull that off?

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    For sure, but I think that 40% of players are at age 15 or higher so


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Safari Zone > Bug Catching Contest



    Won't happen, allowing HMs to be deleted can allow you to trap yourself.
    not really
    you can always re teach it
    i mean unless you are surfing that is the only time i can see them not allowing you to delete it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yveltal96 View Post
    not really
    you can always re teach it
    i mean unless you are surfing that is the only time i can see them not allowing you to delete it
    Not in the scenario I provided. You don't have Surf yet, you traded over a Pokemon that knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Not in the scenario I provided. You don't have Surf yet, you traded over a Pokemon that knows it.
    but you have to have the gym badge to use it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yveltal96 View Post
    but you have to have the gym badge to use it
    Not in 5th gen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Not in 5th gen.
    that is true
    maybe they should fix that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yveltal96 View Post
    that is true
    maybe they should fix that...
    Nah, that was too annoying and random.

    *You got HM 03*

    *Too bad, you can't use it until you beat this particular gym. Muhahahaha!*

    I mean really, from a realistic perspective, what's stopping you from using the HM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Nah, that was too annoying and random.

    *You got HM 03*

    *Too bad, you can't use it until you beat this particular gym. Muhahahaha!*

    I mean really, from a realistic perspective, what's stopping you from using the HM?
    Well what stops you from not being able to control traded pokemon? gym badges is all about skill rep., them HMs respect the badges
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    Nah, that was too annoying and random.

    *You got HM 03*

    *Too bad, you can't use it until you beat this particular gym. Muhahahaha!*

    I mean really, from a realistic perspective, what's stopping you from using the HM?
    a mystical badge with the power to control your actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymie View Post
    Well what stops you from not being able to control traded pokemon? gym badges is all about skill rep., them HMs respect the badges
    That still doesn't really make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    That still doesn't really make sense.
    actually it does
    think of it this way
    for the iPhone there are lots of apps with different iOS requirements
    unless you have a good enough iOS you cannot use the app
    make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yveltal96 View Post
    actually it does
    think of it this way
    for the iPhone there are lots of apps with different iOS requirements
    unless you have a good enough iOS you cannot use the app
    make sense?
    I think you're missing the point...

    Assume that you're a very skilled Trainer and all your Pokemon think highly and respect you. Your skills may have surpassed those of Gym Leaders and the Elite Four, but you never bothered to collect Gym Badges at all. One day, on your journey, you need to traverse the ocean, You have HM03 but just because you don't have that badge, you're not allowed to surf across the ocean?

    Or cut a small tree, push a boulder, fly, climb mountains, smash rocks, dive underwater, etc...?
    Why do you need permission from authority for doing such simple things?

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