Gameplay Speculation/Discussion Thread

[Fishboi]

I really really want something like Join Avenue to return.
Absolutely LOVED that feature in White/Black 2. (Maybe an extension of this: a mall of some sort? Or just the Join Avenue continued...)
It's an interesting move towards the 'tid-bit' styled game play like many phone games. (Where you can do a little every day - giving you a reason to visit every so often.)

As such, I really liked the feature (forget which gen/game) where you could change the bottom screen to different things. (Like a watch, daycare monitor, map...)

Hmmm. Customization would be AWESOME. Especially if they decide to do something neat like having similar clothing parts to previous characters in the series allowing us to mix and match! Maybe even unlocking gym leader/certain trainer 'styles' after beating them along the way. Maybe even pokemon 'themed' items (either colour scheme or otherwise). So many delightful possibilities...

[GenosectArceus]

What do you want her to say "your done, now get out"

Well, it would be nice if different Pokémon Center nurses were given different dialog. And they can say something like, "Stay healthy!" or, "Battle hard, now!" or, "Run along now!"
Maybe if there is some Nurse in a cave that heals your Pokémon, he/she can say, "Your Pokémon are fully healed, now scram!" I guess that could be appropriae in a sense.

[Bolt the Cat]

Yes,if you think about it.
A pokemon center is basically a hospital right? And therefor she wants you to come back to pay more hospital bills.

Pokemon Centers are free.

I really really want something like Join Avenue to return.
Absolutely LOVED that feature in White/Black 2. (Maybe an extension of this: a mall of some sort? Or just the Join Avenue continued...)
It's an interesting move towards the 'tid-bit' styled game play like many phone games. (Where you can do a little every day - giving you a reason to visit every so often.)

Yeah, I'd love to see an entire multi-level Join Avenue type mall, that'd be awesome. They'd need to make more stores for that, though (like at least 15 or something). What else could they put? Maybe:

-Furniture Store: Makes furniture and decorations for Secret Bases
-Clothing Store: Sells accessories for you and your Pokemon


-Divide the Market up into several different stores:

-Grocery Store: Sells food items (Fresh Water, Moo Moo Milk, etc.)
-Pharmacy: Sells medicine (Potions, Full Heals, etc.)
-some sort of store that sells battle enhancements (I can't think of a specific theme for this) like X Attack, Protein, etc.

That's about all I can think of.

As such, I really liked the feature (forget which gen/game) where you could change the bottom screen to different things. (Like a watch, daycare monitor, map...)

That was the Poketch in DPPt. And yeah, those apps were useful.

[GenosectArceus]

I thought Join Avenue was a multi-level structure bcause of the reflection off of the florr, which I didn't know was a reflection until I actually saw the gameplay.

The Poketch was such a useful tool for the bottom screen, but I liked HG/SS's bottom screen better, since I did't use the X button that much then.

However, GameFreak is most likely going to implement something new, but if not, the C-Gear may return so we have access to an updated Dream World hopefully.

[spikyearedpichu]

I really hope the hidden grotto, pokeathlon, contest, pokestar studio, the dream world and something similar to the join avenue return this generation specially the dream world!!

[GenosectArceus]

I really hope the hidden grotto, pokeathlon, contest, pokestar studio, the dream world and something similar to the join avenue return this generation specially the dream world!!

I believe Dream world will be staying. Dream World has given so many new things to the series, and so many weak Pokémon exceptional niches in battle terms. However, if the DW were to disappear in 6th gen, it would be a disappointment for many battlers who love DW Pokémon (Magic Bounce Espy(OU) and Flare Boost Drifblim (NU) are my favorites)

[stevencloser]

I see what you did there.


What I want to see, I don't know if it fits here better or in characters, are Elite 4 who don't specialize in a single type. Instead, they could specialize in certain physiologies of pokemon. One Elite 4 who trains canine pokemon, another feline, etc. They'd have a wider type spread and would be more challenging that way.

I doubt they'll do that but it seems interesting enough to see how they would do it if they even bothered.

I guess, but it would be a nice break from the old type themed gyms and Elite 4.

[DarkOverlord777]

I'd like to see something similar to the Marine Tube in B2/W2 show up in X and Y. Another thing that I think would be nice is the return of Dive. Imagine exploring fully underwater 3d worlds in X and Y with Dive. I think it would be a good move on their part to show the real possibilities they could go with future pokemon games and other things with the 3ds.

[GenosectArceus]

I guess, but it would be a nice break from the old type themed gyms and Elite 4.

Something new is guaranteed, and I really like the idea of specializing in different pokémon physiologies. Even though it's highly unlikely, that would bring most of the Gym leaders to be versatile-typed gyms.

Here's some ideas in fact:
Feline Pokémon Leader: Tabby
Glameow, Mienfoo, 6th gen feline

Canine Pokémon Leader: Caine
6th gen canine, Herdier, Granbull

Fairy Pokémon Leader: Forrest
6th gen fairy, 6th gen fairy, Whimsicott, Clefairy

Statue Pokémon leader: Frédéric
Golurk, 6th gen statue, maybe a Regi

Fish Pokémon leader: Dory
Sharpedo, Lumineon, 6th gen fish, Magikarp or Gyrados

Human Pokémon leader: Pierre (as in SaPIEN)
Sawk, Gothitelle, Electrivire, 6th gen Human Pokémon, 6th gen Human Pokémon.

Just some ideas.

[confuser987]

The general consensus say that the type chart is fine as it is, but I disagree. Poison is really a underused type especially in ou/uber metagaming where no pure poison types don't belong. It is like the opposite case in Gen 1 where psychic was to powerful of a type. GF need to either fix the type chart that makes it fair for poison types or add new types. in Gen II GF added steel and ghost types.

Let's say GF does add new types. You would think that the new type should be really resistant to many other types. However, the new type should be one that is super-effective against many other types instead. I loved the idea of Shadow Pokemon. It wasn't a pokemon type, but it was truly offensive characteristic. Ghost, psychic, and dark type can co-exist. Why not add another type that relates to the supernatural? But don't make Shadow a pokemon type. Instead create a "Fairy" type". Although it has no resistances or immunities, it would be super-effective against every other type, except poison.

With Fairy type added to the list, make Fairy Pokemon not learn Toxic anymore and can be exclusively taught generation before gen VI.

[Bolt the Cat]

I believe Dream world will be staying. Dream World has given so many new things to the series, and so many weak Pokémon exceptional niches in battle terms. However, if the DW were to disappear in 6th gen, it would be a disappointment for many battlers who love DW Pokémon (Magic Bounce Espy(OU) and Flare Boost Drifblim (NU) are my favorites)

You know they don't necessarily need the DW to hand out Hidden Abilities, right? They could do something like the Hidden Grottoes (but please, if you decide to bring those back, increase the chances of actually finding a Pokmeon there), Yancy/Curtis' trades, or any number of different alternative methods to distribute Hidden Ability Pokemon.

[confuser987]

GF needs to fix with rotational battles. Abilities like intimidate and moves like fake out should be used more than once without properly switching out. Also, moves like icy wind should be able to hit all pokemon.

[Yveltal96]

You know they don't necessarily need the DW to hand out Hidden Abilities, right? They could do something like the Hidden Grottoes (but please, if you decide to bring those back, increase the chances of actually finding a Pokmeon there), Yancy/Curtis' trades, or any number of different alternative methods to distribute Hidden Ability Pokemon.

i hate how hard it is to actually find something there!
i think they need to increase the probability of finding something

[Bolt the Cat]

i hate how hard it is to actually find something there!
i think they need to increase the probability of finding something

It's based on steps. I don't mind that as much as I mind the fact that 95% of the time something's actually there it's either a useless item or a Pokemon that isn't a DWf.

[Yveltal96]

It's based on steps. I don't mind that as much as I mind the fact that 95% of the time something's actually there it's either a useless item or a Pokemon that isn't a DWf.

i know it's based on steps
and then you have to split it up between the percentage for it to be an item or a pokemon, then disect it into the smallest percentages to have a glimmer of hope of getting what pokemon you wanted
they should at least make some hidden grottos dedicated to items and some to pokemon at least

[BurningWhiteKyurem]

It's based on steps. I don't mind that as much as I mind the fact that 95% of the time something's actually there it's either a useless item or a Pokemon that isn't a DWf.

This. GameFreak went way overboard with the probability of getting a dream world Pokemon. I mean, I don't think a Moxie Heracross/Pinsir is worth the chances of finding a shiny, and even then, given how low the odds are of getting a shiny (minus charm), some people may never get such Pokemon from the Grotto. Why not make the percentages similar to wild encounters? Such as, 252 steps = 100% chance broken down into 50-50 item/Pokemon appearance broken down into 5%/20%/25% in order of rarest to most common. Numbers can differ depending on the amount of available DW Pokemon per area.

[Yveltal96]

This. GameFreak went way overboard with the probability of getting a dream world Pokemon. I mean, I don't think a Moxie Heracross/Pinsir is worth the chances of finding a shiny, and even then, given how low the odds are of getting a shiny (minus charm), some people may never get such Pokemon from the Grotto. Why not make the percentages similar to wild encounters? Such as, 252 steps = 100% chance broken down into 50-50 item/Pokemon appearance broken down into 5%/20%/25% in order of rarest to most common. Numbers can differ depending on the amount of available DW Pokemon per area.

yeah it was very annoying
after you got the steps you had to hope that there was something there in the first place
and then hope that it's a pokemon

[stevencloser]

When I went searching for my female DW Dragonite I calculated the chances. I think it was around 0.1% for every 256 step cycle for a Dragonite, period. And since apparently resetting the game does not do anything to a stationary pokemon's gender, make that 0.05%. Still 4 times as likely as a shiny, but come on.

[Yveltal96]

When I went searching for my female DW Dragonite I calculated the chances. I think it was around 0.1% for every 256 step cycle for a Dragonite, period. And since apparently resetting the game does not do anything to a stationary pokemon's gender, make that 0.05%. Still 4 times as likely as a shiny, but come on.

yeah i think i got pretty lucky when i found my DW manectric
but if they did reintroduce hidden grottos, they need to increase the likely hood of finding pokemon

[Paige712]

Hmm well some changes I'd like to see are.

Firstly a change in the gym leader format would be nice (i.e no more one type gyms themes, make the themes more broad in a sense) Like a Volcanic theme utilizing rock, ground and fire types or a Forest theme with pokemon you usually find in forested areas. The one type gyms are getting pretty repetitive imo. They should spice it up a bit.

Other small points.

-Make poison more useful (Mabye make normal types weak to poison?)
-Vs Seeker a must
-Alot of post game stuff like BF, additional side story, new areas, minor quests etc.
-Make Challenge mode available from the start.
-Gym Leader rematches
-Bring back open level for the tournament add on whatever it maybe (not just lv 50)
-Have a Red style esque trainer for an end game battle (Lv 90's for challenge mode)
-3rd gen style contests and secret bases
-Safari zone