Gameplay Speculation/Discussion Thread

[cascadethewarrior]

Here are some ideas I thought of that current TMs/HMs can play in the Overworld to have more use:

Cut: Be able to cut small trees, vines, grass, Spider webs, ropes or any cut-able obstacles.

Defog: Removes Fog or any fog like things in the air. So basically it should be kept the same but made a TM

Dig: Escape from dungeons and be able to dig up shiny spots on the ground which have items.

Dive: Should be kept the same as in R/S/E

Flash: Should be kept the same

Fly: Should be able to returned to any previously visited Pokemon center area. We should be able to use Fly on lightened areas in the over world and explore "Sky routes" similar to Underwater(I so want my castle in the sky). Also, cracks in the ceilings which will appear as lightened areas in dungeons to get to a higher level when there are no stairs or whatever to get to the next floor that could be part of the puzzle.

Hail/Rain Dance/Sandstorm/Sunny Day: Change the the route's current weather to that. It stops and goes back to normal once you enter a building or leave the route. it can be used to find certain Pokemon.

Rock Climb: Should be kept the same

Rock Smash: Break rocks and cracks in walls or the floor.

Strength: Be able to move boulders and heavy objects, not just boulders.

Surf: Should be kept the same

Teleport: Be able to return to the previous spots were the "teleporter" is. The "teleporter" would be like an area that does not have a Pokemon center in which we can warp to so they would look similar to the warp gate in Digimon World DS, if anyone's ever played that game. Like say there is a "teleporter" on Route 35 we can use Teleport to teleport back there any time we want. They could even be in Dungeons. So this could be either a TM or become an HM.

Waterfall: Should be kept the same but made a TM

Whirlpool: Should be kept the same but made a TM

[Chingchar]

I don't know of this has been discussed already but.... Did anyone notice how the character seemed to be skating when the white Eiffel Tower was in the building was in the background does that mean they'll have got rid of the bike?

[confuser987]

Here are some ideas I thought of that current TMs/HMs can play in the Overworld to have more use:

Cut: Be able to cut small trees, vines, grass, Spider webs, ropes or any cut-able obstacles.

Defog: Removes Fog or any fog like things in the air. So basically it should be kept the same but made a TM

Dig: Escape from dungeons and be able to dig up shiny spots on the ground which have items.

Dive: Should be kept the same as in R/S/E

Flash: Should be kept the same

Fly: Should be able to returned to any previously visited Pokemon center area. We should be able to use Fly on lightened areas in the over world and explore "Sky routes" similar to Underwater(I so want my castle in the sky). Also, cracks in the ceilings which will appear as lightened areas in dungeons to get to a higher level when there are no stairs or whatever to get to the next floor that could be part of the puzzle.

Hail/Rain Dance/Sandstorm/Sunny Day: Change the the route's current weather to that. It stops and goes back to normal once you enter a building or leave the route. it can be used to find certain Pokemon.

Rock Climb: Should be kept the same

Rock Smash: Break rocks and cracks in walls or the floor.

Strength: Be able to move boulders and heavy objects, not just boulders.

Surf: Should be kept the same

Teleport: Be able to return to the previous spots were the "teleporter" is. The "teleporter" would be like an area that does not have a Pokemon center in which we can warp to so they would look similar to the warp gate in Digimon World DS, if anyone's ever played that game. Like say there is a "teleporter" on Route 35 we can use Teleport to teleport back there any time we want. They could even be in Dungeons. So this could be either a TM or become an HM.

Waterfall: Should be kept the same but made a TM

Whirlpool: Should be kept the same but made a TM

GF should change the weather tm to hms. It would be really awesome if you can change the weather using the hms especially now the game is in 3d. If they do choose to change the weather tms to hms maybe that will be part of the villain team's scheme like in Gen III.

[DarkSword39]

I don't know of this has been discussed already but.... Did anyone notice how the character seemed to be skating when the white Eiffel Tower was in the building was in the background does that mean they'll have got rid of the bike?

Probably. I also noticed it, too. I hope it's not going to replace the Bike, but it might have some special features to make it different from the Bike.

[Bariokie]

Probably. I also noticed it, too. I hope it's not going to replace the Bike, but it might have some special features to make it different from the Bike.

Nah, Just a skate and the same speed as the bike....

[SylveonLover]

GAME FOOTAGE NOT FINAL!

That means that it could just be early design of it running.

[Asbestospoison]

GAME FOOTAGE NOT FINAL!

That means that it could just be early design of it running.

It's definitely not running. You can see the player running in the footage. I'm also pretty sure you can hear the skates.

Personally, I'm hoping that they keep the bike, and use the skates as something like the mach bike in RSE, with the added bonus of having both in your inventory, and not having to go all the way back to the shop to switch them.

[BurningWhiteKyurem]

GAME FOOTAGE NOT FINAL!

That means that it could just be early design of it running.

Why would the PC running look like gliding...? It has to be skates.

[CrusherTheFeraligatr]

I wonder, since its not near bird's eye view anymore, if we'll finally be able to climb ledges. In the desert scene, the male character wass standing by ledge that seemed to go through the screen.

[NoDice]

I wonder, since its not near bird's eye view anymore, if we'll finally be able to climb ledges. In the desert scene, the male character wass standing by ledge that seemed to go through the screen.

If we cant jump small ledges or climb ala ANY other adventure game, it will be extremely dumb, and a waste of the new graphic style/gameplay.

[Shine]

GF should change the weather tm to hms. It would be really awesome if you can change the weather using the hms especially now the game is in 3d. If they do choose to change the weather tms to hms maybe that will be part of the villain team's scheme like in Gen III.

and make them irremovable until we found a move deleter?

no thank you

[CrusherTheFeraligatr]

If we cant jump small ledges or climb ala ANY other adventure game, it will be extremely dumb, and a waste of the new graphic style/gameplay.

I agree. I couldn't understand it in earlier gens. I mean, we can't lift our legs or something? The ledges don't seem that high in the desert, and you could jump down, so its not to high.

[confuser987]

and make them irremovable until we found a move deleter?

no thank you

Well, that is what HM's are.

[BurningWhiteKyurem]

Well, that is what HM's are.

You do realize you don't need HM status just to have an effect on the overworld? Flash is a good example of this.

[Shine]

You do realize you don't need HM status just to have an effect on the overworld? Flash is a good example of this.

Dig is an even better example, as it never becomes a HM yet always has an overworld effect ever since it is introduced.


and I think having weather moves as HM is a bad idea, we won't need them as much as more important things like Surf and Fly, yet to remove them, we need the move deleter.
That, in my opinion........is just as stupid as Defog and Whirlpool being HM.

[cascadethewarrior]

I just realized Gen 5 did not introduce a new HM

Gen 2 introduced Whirlpool and Waterfall
Gen 3 introduced Dive and Rock Smash
Gen 4 introduced Defog and Rock Climb

What if we don't get a new HM again? :/

[R_N]

I just realized Gen 5 did not introduce a new HM

Gen 2 introduced Whirlpool and Waterfall
Gen 3 introduced Dive and Rock Smash
Gen 4 introduced Defog and Rock Climb

What if we don't get a new HM again? :/

It will be perfectly fine and I hope they don't?
We have enough HMs, frankly

[Rayze Darr]

I'm all for that good old idea of removing HMs altogether.

If a Pokemon can cut trees, let it do so without having to know a move for it. If a Pokemon can swim and reasonably carry a human being, let them do so. I mean, most Pokemon that can Surf have probably been swimming since before you found them.

This would eliminate the annoyance of HM Slaves, and since TMs are now reusable, making the old HMs into TMs won't change anything in the move learnin' department.

[Yveltal96]

I'd laugh if we get Quadruple battles this gen.

no way O_O
that would be chaotic

[cascadethewarrior]

It will be perfectly fine and I hope they don't?
We have enough HMs, frankly

Well not use them all at once but the new one can replace a prior one.