Gameplay Speculation/Discussion Thread

[Azran Flame]

Join Avenue was a solid addition to the games. I feel like more of my time spent playing has been focusing on leveling up my current shops. However, out of all the shops, the Dojo and the Cafe are my least favorites because they stray from multiples that divide evenly into 252. 64, 48, 32, 20, and 16 all miss going into 252 evenly, which means you cannot spam the services brainlessly. The Beauticians are also inconvenient, but at least they offer a service that can knock out a complete Effort Point summation in a particular stat in one shot, not to mention increasing happiness along the way. They are also comparatively cheaper.

If they do bring back this feature, or one similar, please make the points wholly divisible into 252! It's annoying enough remembering Macho Brace and Power Item calculations.

This further proves that Pokemon isn't just a series for Pokemon =p

But yeah, I can see how that would be very frustrating. As someone who doesn't EV train (I have neither the patience nor the brains for it =p) it doesn't really affect me that much, but I still hope that they fix it so that I don't have to get caught up in the sh*tstorm that will inevitably occur once people realise that GF didn't bother.

[Bolt the Cat]

I think that only one between PWT and a Frontier will be present in a single game. These two are kinda 'alternatives' of each other.
Much like the Pokeathlon, Pokemon Contests, PokeWood being alternatives of each other.

Not really. They could just make the PWT a Battle Frontier facility and then we can have both.

[Wulava]

I think there's a good way of incorporating PWT, PokeWood, Pokeathlon, Contests and Musicals into one.

The Ultimate Pokemon Contest!!!

There will be 8 contestants similar to the PWT but is divided into left and right brackets, with 4 competitors each.
You only compete with the other 3 in the same bracket as yours.

Round 1: Visuals
:: This is basically the condition and Dress-up part of the game.

Round 2: Musical
:: Rather than following the Dance mechanic from DPPt, this will incorporate the Musical Feature instead.

Round 3: Athletics
:: This is basically a mini-Pokeathlon, with a single event or two, that vary depending on the theme (Cute, Cool, etc...).

After these three rounds, the performance will be evaluated and the top finalist from your each bracket will proceed to the finals.

Final Round: Battle
:: The Top 2 Pokemon will battle each other and at the same time, must consider their moves in order to earn Appeal points. The battle may only last for 3-5 turns and fainting the opponent may not be necessary. But using effective moves against your opponent or simply fainting them within 3-5 turns should earn you enough appeal to win the whole competition.

This contest is "televised" and the more you win, the more you earn fans. And the more you become popular, the more chances of facing Gym Leaders (who obviously dominated the other bracket).

The Gym Leaders you face could depend on the Contests' theme, too. For example, you might face Chuck if you enter "Tough" competitions or face Elesa in the "Beauty" competition.


I don't think they'll ever do this, but hey, we can dream.

[Takaru]

That idea Wulava is amazing! It'd be so fun and a great addition.

The world tournament was probably my favorite addition to the games, being able to battle everyone was seriously a incredible.

[Hydrohs]

I don't think they'll ever do this, but hey, we can dream.

My problem is that these things have all become so complicated or aren't that entertaining. Contests were fine, very simple. Super contests just made it more complicated for no reason. The PokeAthlon is a ton of events and each Pokemon has different stats for it and it's essentially a game unto itself, never set foot in a musical so I wont comment on those and I've only done the introductory Pokewood movie, which I wont say was complicated but it was boring as all hell.

I'd prefer something simple and straightforward like Contests again, or nothing at all and just leave the extras as the Battle Tower.

[BBtheASH]

I think there's a good way of incorporating PWT, PokeWood, Pokeathlon, Contests and Musicals into one.

The Ultimate Pokemon Contest!!!

There will be 8 contestants similar to the PWT but is divided into left and right brackets, with 4 competitors each.
You only compete with the other 3 in the same bracket as yours.

Round 1: Visuals
:: This is basically the condition and Dress-up part of the game.

Round 2: Musical
:: Rather than following the Dance mechanic from DPPt, this will incorporate the Musical Feature instead.

Round 3: Athletics
:: This is basically a mini-Pokeathlon, with a single event or two, that vary depending on the theme (Cute, Cool, etc...).

After these three rounds, the performance will be evaluated and the top finalist from your each bracket will proceed to the finals.

Final Round: Battle
:: The Top 2 Pokemon will battle each other and at the same time, must consider their moves in order to earn Appeal points. The battle may only last for 3-5 turns and fainting the opponent may not be necessary. But using effective moves against your opponent or simply fainting them within 3-5 turns should earn you enough appeal to win the whole competition.

This contest is "televised" and the more you win, the more you earn fans. And the more you become popular, the more chances of facing Gym Leaders (who obviously dominated the other bracket).

The Gym Leaders you face could depend on the Contests' theme, too. For example, you might face Chuck if you enter "Tough" competitions or face Elesa in the "Beauty" competition.


I don't think they'll ever do this, but hey, we can dream.

Awesome idea!<3
I was trying to come up with an idea where all these side games where mashed up in one,
But you figured it out flawlessley!
I would spend soooo much time playing this if they were to actually add it in!

[Shneak]

I would like Contests that are more similar to Hoenn's but also incorporating a battling element.

The first round could be the appeals. Maybe we're given a certain amount of turns (like 5 in Hoenn) to gather hearts, or maybe we can combine moves to make combinations. I'm not sure how the battles would differentiate from regular ones though.

[SenorLaughsaLot]

I would like Contests that are more similar to Hoenn's but also incorporating a battling element.

The first round could be the appeals. Maybe we're given a certain amount of turns (like 5 in Hoenn) to gather hearts, or maybe we can combine moves to make combinations. I'm not sure how the battles would differentiate from regular ones though.

Final Round: Battle
:: The Top 2 Pokemon will battle each other and at the same time, must consider their moves in order to earn Appeal points. The battle may only last for 3-5 turns and fainting the opponent may not be necessary. But using effective moves against your opponent or simply fainting them within 3-5 turns should earn you enough appeal to win the whole competition.

I think this idea was pretty good for battles. I would like it if they brought back contests, it would look so much better in these games and for the nostalgia factor as well. I would think it'd make sense to make a comeback in a French-esque region that is associated with fashion and beauty. Well, at least I make that assumption. XD

[sbktdreed]

I would like Contests that are more similar to Hoenn's but also incorporating a battling element.

The first round could be the appeals. Maybe we're given a certain amount of turns (like 5 in Hoenn) to gather hearts, or maybe we can combine moves to make combinations. I'm not sure how the battles would differentiate from regular ones though.

I had a previous post on my ideas for contests. Additional modes of Muti-type battling, combined scoring systems, and 2-on-2 contests sums it up; among other things. In addition, I'm in favor of using the Streetpass and/or Spotpass feature(s) to get more coordiantors if contests does return to 6G.

Join Avenue was a solid addition to the games. It's annoying enough remembering Macho Brace and Power Item calculations.

I find these shops are very useful to me. I need something to keep track of those calculations as well.

[BBtheASH]

I had a previous post on my ideas for contests. Additional modes of Muti-type battling, combined scoring systems, and 2-on-2 contests sums it up; among other things. In addition, I'm in favor of using the Streetpass and/or Spotpass feature(s) to get more coordiantors.


I find these shops are very useful to me. I need something to keep track of those calculations as well.

Ever since the introduction of these shops there literally has never been a day were I've had to go out of my way to actually EV train the old fashion way. Nope, I have 4 dojo's that can service me - and IT BETTER STAY THAT WAY!

[Phantom champion Z]

Im for the pokeathalon or some form of it making a return. It was engaging and the prizes made it worthwhile. contest and super contest should stay dead in my opinion.

[carboncopy]

I'm pretty sure GF will come up with something other that Contest, Pokeathelon, Musicals, PWT and Pokestar Studios. They almost always change the side quests for different, even for games in the same gen.

[Endless]

Final Round: Battle
:: The Top 2 Pokemon will battle each other and at the same time, must consider their moves in order to earn Appeal points. The battle may only last for 3-5 turns and fainting the opponent may not be necessary. But using effective moves against your opponent or simply fainting them within 3-5 turns should earn you enough appeal to win the whole competition.

This part, is iy similar to the battle Arena of gen III, where you are given point for your offensive style, your accuracy and your HP after three rounds.
That was one of the many funny factories in Hoenn and I would love it to come back in some form in XY, and improve it.
(How i miss Hoenn..)

[princerabbit]

sorry i dont know if this has been discussed already, but what do people think about pokemon being able to perform more than 4 moves in generation 6 or further generations? kind of like final fantasy ... it would totally have to change mechanics but ... should or shouldn't?? we are only getting more and more moves each generation. 4 is quite limiting.

[princerabbit]

sorry i dont know if this has been discussed already, but what do people think about pokemon being able to perform more than 4 moves in generation 6 or further generations? kind of like final fantasy ... it would totally have to change mechanics but ... should or shouldn't?? we are only getting more and more moves each generation. 4 is quite limiting.

or what about if moves had levels? like a level 1 tackle is normal... a level 5 tackle will have a higher base power. a level 10 growl could lower defense by 2 levels and maybe raise a wild pokemon's catch rate (make it easier to catch) there are so many possibilities.

[TheBattleFrontierAsh1]

sorry i dont know if this has been discussed already, but what do people think about pokemon being able to perform more than 4 moves in generation 6 or further generations? kind of like final fantasy ... it would totally have to change mechanics but ... should or shouldn't?? we are only getting more and more moves each generation. 4 is quite limiting.

If that happened the metagame would be EXTREMELY unbalanced. Hence why we only have four moves.

[carboncopy]

sorry i dont know if this has been discussed already, but what do people think about pokemon being able to perform more than 4 moves in generation 6 or further generations? kind of like final fantasy ... it would totally have to change mechanics but ... should or shouldn't?? we are only getting more and more moves each generation. 4 is quite limiting.

Masuda was asked this in some interview. He said that would mess with the mechanics. So, that's a no go.

[AquaRegisteel]

Wulava has a great idea, but some of you say it isn't simple enough...how about they make it so that they have Contests just like the anime? That is something I have wanted for some time, so we'll see...

[Hydrohs]

or what about if moves had levels? like a level 1 tackle is normal... a level 5 tackle will have a higher base power. a level 10 growl could lower defense by 2 levels and maybe raise a wild pokemon's catch rate (make it easier to catch) there are so many possibilities.

There's already so many possibilities, that's why we have so many different moves.

[Reshiram44]

I've heard so many complaints about Pokémon being on the 3DS. Makes no sense why people are mad -_-