A Unova League Evolution (769)

[Joltik-Kid]

I'm just gonna put this league past me... it's nothing special and therefore will be the least memorable for many reason :P

[OceanicLanturn]

I'm just gonna put this league past me... it's nothing special and therefore will be the least memorable for many reason :P

It'd be my most for how bad it went >+>

I watched Ash vs Cameron today. And lemme say this, but the battle was trubbish. They reused so many animations that it wasn't even funny.

[Caseydia]

It'd be my most for how bad it went >+>

I watched Ash vs Cameron today. And lemme say this, but the battle was trubbish. They reused so many animations that it wasn't even funny.

That's because the battle seemed like it should have been in Sinnoh, not here for some reason. I don't get it but maybe the writers do.

[RVD_fan]

Glad I managed to avoid spoilers, made this episode more enjoyable.

For what they had going in, it was an alright finish. I really liked the animation on Pikachu's quick attack, but I thought the battle suffered because a larger anthropomorphic pokemon against a small rodent-like pokemon is a little awkward. Virgil winning is pretty predictable, although considering how decisively he beat Cameron it does make Ash look pretty weak for not being able to beat him even with a one-pokemon advantage.

I think overall this league was really hurt by lack of development among the rivals. Virgil and Cameron were both late comers with fairly generic nice-guy personalities and it made the final battles with them lack that emotional edge.

Considering the league didn't have any really great battles nor did it develop Ash's character in any way, I think it has to be considered the most forgettable among the leagues.

I will say I like the animation on the league and the way we were kept up to date on who was left among the non-rivals.

[Rizardon]

What move did Flareon use to beat Lucario?

Was it Lava Plume?

[_Taidow_]

What move did Flareon use to beat Lucario?

Was it Lava Plume?

It was Fire Blast.

[J Ken]

Snivy's Leaf Blade was awesome, it's sad that she stood no chance against Lucario. I kinda wanted Pikachu to win he really dominated Lucario but he still lost. It reminded me of how Serperior was pwning Pikachu throughout the entire battle only for him to lose after a quick collision. Virgil beat Cameron 3-0, Flareon really decimated Lucario. Isn't Eevee vs Druddigon the first time the final battle of a league is shown onscreen?

[Pokemaniac24]

Snivy's Leaf Blade was awesome, it's sad that she stood no chance against Lucario. I kinda wanted Pikachu to win he really dominated Lucario but he still lost. It reminded me of how Serperior was pwning Pikachu throughout the entire battle only for him to lose after a quick collision. Virgil beat Cameron 3-0, Flareon really decimated Lucario. Isn't Eevee vs Druddigon the first time the final battle of a league is shown onscreen?

They showed the ending of Tobias vs the runner up of the Sinnoh League but it was only a 5 second clip really.

[J Ken]

They showed the ending of Tobias vs the runner up of the Sinnoh League but it was only a 5 second clip really.

No I meant actual parts of the battle, not just the opponent's Pokemon being shown getting knocked out or just the decisive blow in the battle.

[Pokemaniac24]

No I meant actual parts of the battle, not just the opponent's Pokemon being shown getting knocked out or just the decisive blow in the battle.

Then no, I don't think so.

It's interesting that Virgil beat Cameron by such a large margin and considering Cameron did really well against Ash, I have a feeling Ash wouldn't have done so hot against Virgil if he used the same 6 Pokémon he did against Cameron. Maybe Krookodile, Leavanny and Palpitoad could have done well though. Something tells me that Virgil and Dino were in a class of their own though.

[Akaku]

I just have one thing to say.
What in the world happened to Tsutarja's attract move? I'm pretty sure Lucario is male.
Writers are ridiculously dumb.

[Haunter227]

I'm surprised this never got noted, but was anybody even partially annoyed that despite the drawn out battle between Pikachu and Lucario, once it was over they were both fine with absolutely no scratch marks/injuries after?

Looking at Pikachu's defeat to Excadrill in the Club Battle or against Tyson's Meowth in Hoenn, it annoys me tbh.

[Akaku]

There were so many things wrong with this League.
No recalling of Pokemon, except for Pikachu and when Riolu came out Satoshi practically just started commanding Kenhallow to use every move until it fainted.
Then with Tsutarja he forgot to use Attract. Whatever. I'll just put it to a close. I finally saw the episode yesterday and I was surprised that some things didn't happen.
Oh well, we can only move on.

[AhTreyYou]

There were so many things wrong with this League.
No recalling of Pokemon, except for Pikachu and when Riolu came out Satoshi practically just started commanding Kenhallow to use every move until it fainted.
Then with Tsutarja he forgot to use Attract. Whatever. I'll just put it to a close. I finally saw the episode yesterday and I was surprised that some things didn't happen.
Oh well, we can only move on.

Snivy using attract on Lucario... Why didn't this happen

[EmphaticPikachu]

oh come on...

the spanish subs are already out, but not the english? ;______; OTL. I guess I can just guess what they say.

Okay, the Finish for the snivy VS lucario battle was fine. That was good.

As for when pikachu was out...

Meh the battle was actually done pretty well. All they needed to do was speed it up more. They tried way to hard to make it epic and slow when that battle was...well it would of worked so much better faster paced.
I kept wanting to skip to the end (cause the end of the battle was pretty epic, I thought they did the last part well.) everytime I watched it. Its like...I can't get lost in the action like I was able to in paul's.

The insane quick attack at the beginning of the battle drew me into into it INSTANTLY, yet they kill it by slowing down the pace by having Ash and Konestu talking and forcing them to struggle to get up. I have no problem with them struggling...but there was just no pace for me to get drawn into. If they're going to have them talk, make it like brock talking over the ash VS paul battle, talking over the fast paced battle while they fight, and then having the finish happen.

At least the final clash was cool. I loved the music that played, and while i think a physical clash would of been much cooler, the aurasphere over powering electro ball was perfect and ash's reaction was perfect, not to mention the music fit well.

once again, point and case, they tried way to hard to make it "epic". I would of prefered a stephan like battle. Konestu's the type of guy for that, not epic. So if you want to enjoy the battle, watch up until about force palm, then skip to the end :P

[jrizza88]

Snivy's Leaf Blade was awesome, it's sad that she stood no chance against Lucario. I kinda wanted Pikachu to win he really dominated Lucario but he still lost. It reminded me of how Serperior was pwning Pikachu throughout the entire battle only for him to lose after a quick collision. Virgil beat Cameron 3-0, Flareon really decimated Lucario. Isn't Eevee vs Druddigon the first time the final battle of a league is shown onscreen?

Snivy's leaf blade looked so awesome. Pikachu was cool, I am just upset that Ash lost, and this will probably be my most bitter battle episode watched this whole saga. I hope Ash wins some final tournament if they have one at all before Unova is finished.

[Kenny Pkmn Trainer]

This match and the whole league is POINTLESS. Pikachu deserved to win that 3 times or more volt tackle raped him while lucario should have been defeated by Snivy. Pokemon Logic again .

[Raptor_Crow]

All I have to say about this is I'm really happy Lucario kept the personality it had as a Riolu. Because it's refreshing to see a Lucario that isn't all like "Ooo look, it's so cool and badass." Kotetsu's Lucario is portrayed as a strong, but fun Pokémon and with its entertaining personality and due to it being hugely different from all the previous Lucario's we've seen it is my top favourite Lucario in the show right now.

[J Ken]

I'm surprised this never got noted, but was anybody even partially annoyed that despite the drawn out battle between Pikachu and Lucario, once it was over they were both fine with absolutely no scratch marks/injuries after?

Looking at Pikachu's defeat to Excadrill in the Club Battle or against Tyson's Meowth in Hoenn, it annoys me tbh.

That is so true. How tired out Infernape was after the Paul full battle should of been how Pikachu and Lucario were after their battle.

[Streetlight]

A little late to the party here but whatever. This league was just utterly mediocre in every single way. Going into it, I knew that Ash would lose in the 4th round as he always does but I at least expected the league to feel.....you know, like a league?

It would have been nice to see Ash in a 6 on 6 battle against a random trainer we've never seen before but battling against all his friends as usual is alright I guess. Guess I just expected more. This league didn't feel any bigger than some club battle or something.