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Thread: Do you think that some pokemon types are unnecessary?

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    Going through 5 generations, with each type having their own useful niche in both casual and competitive scenes, personally no. The types are find as it is.

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    I think that rock shouldn't be super effective to fire. I mean, go throw a rock in a fire. Some rocks resist it. Some melt and turn into the valuables it may contain. In that case, they should be neutral or rock resists fire.

    And I think that poison should beat water. Inject poison into water, it gets weakened, but the water goes poisonous.

    How in the name of hell does flying beat grass! The worst thing I've seen a flying thing do to plants are birds crapping on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightFennekin View Post
    I think that rock shouldn't be super effective to fire. I mean, go throw a rock in a fire. Some rocks resist it. Some melt and turn into the valuables it may contain. In that case, they should be neutral or rock resists fire.
    I can't see any problem on rock being super effective on fire.

    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightFennekin View Post
    And I think that poison should beat water. Inject poison into water, it gets weakened, but the water goes poisonous.
    Yes, by this logic, poison should be super effective on water, but I prefer it stay the way it is.

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    How in the name of hell does flying beat grass! The worst thing I've seen a flying thing do to plants are birds crapping on it!
    I never understand that either. Perhaps because strong wind provokes the leaves to release from the branches and even bring down trees.

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    Flying beats grass because of birds, they eat the shoots, and they nest in them, also can grass even touch a flying bird?

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    no. i think they're all equally necessary. I may not like certain types, but i think they're all necessary.

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    Check out rock/ground on the type chart. They're actually quite a bit different.

    Rocks represent rocks, and ground represents the earth, or what you're standing on, really.
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    Despite dark being "evil" in Japan, it is worldwide known as dark. As most of the people knows English instead Japanese, then "dark" becomes the most-used term to describe those Pokemons.

    Plus, the opposite of evil would be holy or saint, and Justice isn't indeed represented by any specific type (much less a double type).
    Well, fighting types are generally honorable. Even Scrafty is to an extent, assuming it follows "street rules".

    Psychic, however, only represents the mind. It's weaknesses are directly related to fear; Bug, Ghost, and Dark. Don't believe me? Check out the ability rattled.
    I never understand that either. Perhaps because strong wind provokes the leaves to release from the branches and even bring down trees.
    IIRC, the flying type in Japanese is "bird type". What to birds love to sit in? Trees.

    I also think that Ice should beat Water. It makes sense; what can water do if it's frozen? And really, the ice type sucks as it is right now. It'd really like the buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndigoAir View Post
    Edit: Oh, and dragon types too. Yeah, they're wicked but.. half them aren't even dragons. So it's not a literal type. And from an elemental perspective I just have no idea what it's supposed to be at all.
    Maybe it’s just that your definition of dragon is limited? The only one I can’t place as some sort of dragon would probably be Vibrava, and it evolves into a dragon looking creature. (EDIT: Apparently it's a 'sand dragon' as in an adult antlion ****apinch is an antlion] or a dragonfly.)

    I don’t think we actually need any more types. (I’m not opposed to them though. Some time ago I had fun writing an RPG where ‘Decay’ type was discovered. It didn’t really compare to dark or ghost, but if it did exist the mushroom pokemon would no longer be Grass type. Incidentally, mushrooms are more closely related to animals than plants.) But if we do get more, I’d want 3, to bring the total number of types to an even 20, that would be nice.
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    I think fighting types, ice types and dark types are redundant.

    Kind of weird that fighting types hurt dark types. It should be Psychic on par with Dark or Ghost since both are supernatural.

    And normal should be affected by ghost. Anyway I just think the 3 types I stated before are not needed from my point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Check out rock/ground on the type chart. They're actually quite a bit different.

    Rocks represent rocks, and ground represents the earth, or what you're standing on, really.Well, fighting types are generally honorable. Even Scrafty is to an extent, assuming it follows "street rules".

    Psychic, however, only represents the mind. It's weaknesses are directly related to fear; Bug, Ghost, and Dark. Don't believe me? Check out the ability rattled.IIRC, the flying type in Japanese is "bird type". What to birds love to sit in? Trees.

    I also think that Ice should beat Water. It makes sense; what can water do if it's frozen? And really, the ice type sucks as it is right now. It'd really like the buff.
    We could date a meeting and find out (create) many theories about the origin of weaknesses and resistances in the type chart. The fact birds like to sit on trees isn't a logic explanation why grass is weak to flying. Sitting is something that doesn't hurt the tree, even when they build the nest they don't harm the tree. Birds also like to eat fruits, and logically they help the tree to spread their seeds. In other words, the relation between birds and trees is harmonic. In my viewpoint, air is so the element that may harm trees, as strong wind releases the leaves and may even bring down a tree.

    If flying is bird in Japan, then I see Charizard a bit different from now on, so actually it is is fire/bird type... Very weird, it has nothing to do with a bird, fire/dragon would be a best combo for it. Then, we have a bunch of flying type that doesn't look like bird, like Tornadus, Crobat, Emolga and Tropius.

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    Rock and steel are basically the same thing, except steel has an immunity to poison.
    Same with bug and grass.

    Dark and ghost areb't too similar, and they couldn't become one type because of relations with psychic type. They're both supereffective against it but ghost has a weakness to it while dark has an advantage. So if they were one type, one of those would probably be cancelled out. one way making it just dark and the other making it some invincible type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade2000 View Post
    Rock and steel are basically the same thing, except steel has an immunity to poison.
    Same with bug and grass.
    No, steel is one thing, rock is other, they're very different at all. Something that is made of rock doesn't have the same properties of an object that is made of steel. You cannot say that they are same just because they share some similaries in the typing chart (weakness to fighting and ground).

    Saying that bug is similar to grass is worse than saying that rock and steel are basically the same. You're the first to say that. Insects and arachnids are classified as bug type as long as fruit, grass-monsters and plants are classified as grass-type. As you can see, bug and grass are quite different.

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    No. Every type is unique enough to be it's own, unlike every type people think should be in the game, like Light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade2000 View Post
    Dark and ghost areb't too similar, and they couldn't become one type because of relations with psychic type. They're both supereffective against it but ghost has a weakness to it while dark has an advantage. So if they were one type, one of those would probably be cancelled out. one way making it just dark and the other making it some invincible type.
    Building on this: a lot of Dark PKMN are only so b/c they're nocturnal (Umbreon), or because they're cheaty, cruel, or vicious (Purloin, Sneasel, Ttar). Ghost PKMN are so b/c they're dead, or (more accurately so) they have compositions and/or behavior similar to that which fits our conception of the undead or other hellish phenononae. So, as stated before, you can't say they're the same.

    I remember earlier on the forum someone suggesting Poison being a prototype Dark, especially with the Gastly line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystical Jackal View Post
    If flying is bird in Japan, then I see Charizard a bit different from now on, so actually it is is fire/bird type... Very weird, it has nothing to do with a bird, fire/dragon would be a best combo for it. Then, we have a bunch of flying type that doesn't look like bird, like Tornadus, Crobat, Emolga and Tropius.
    Actually, turns out however told me that had misinformed me.
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    So, I suppose this means that bird may of been the original type, but was replaced with flying because it made more sense for guys like Charizard. Huh.
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    Well, to be, Poison is kinda unnecessary. only tyoe it is effective against, is grass, which have a lot of weaknesses

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    Rock and steel are basically the same thing
    They are not even close to the same thing. I lack words to describe how much that sentence hurt my brain.
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    I think the types are fine and shouldn't be altered.

    If a new type was to be introduced I would want it to be wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymie View Post
    I think the types are fine and shouldn't be altered.

    If a new type was to be introduced I would want it to be wood.
    Err... Torterra, Shiftry, and Abomasnow say hi?
    Ie: Grass type's got that covered.
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    I'm satisfied with all the types, so no...

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    I think the current types are fine. We already know that if Ghost and Dark were to become a single type it would have no weaknesses what-so-ever. Besides, there are major differences between those two types.

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    In my eyes its like this. It works right? Then why change it?

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    The types are alright, just need more type combos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdrawer View Post
    Err... Torterra, Shiftry, and Abomasnow say hi?
    Ie: Grass type's got that covered.
    How's Abomasnow wood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymie View Post
    How's Abomasnow wood?
    Because it's based off of a TREE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stymie View Post
    I think the types are fine and shouldn't be altered.

    If a new type was to be introduced I would want it to be wood.
    It's creative, but that would screw the typing chart as grass refers to anything related to plants (fruit, wood, plant, flower, mushrooms, etc).

    Just imagine if grass was split in other types: Cherubi (Fruit Type), Sunflora (Flower Type), Abomasnow (Ice/Wood Type), Oddish (Plant/Poison type), Chikorita (Grass Type).

    Woud you really like it? Certain "types" should always remain as species name.

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