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    Hmm, I just lost to a Korean guy. He had a Kyogre, Palkia, Black Kyurem, and Latias ALL shiny and ALL caught in Masterballs. While this doesn't qualify as cheated, it's pretty questionable since he's in the 1900s. For all I know it could be RNG. I'll upload the video to show you guys. Current Streak 18-13 or 17-14.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanethedragon View Post
    Hmm, I just lost to a Korean guy. He had a Kyogre, Palkia, Black Kyurem, and Latias ALL shiny and ALL caught in Masterballs. While this doesn't qualify as cheated, it's pretty questionable since he's in the 1900s. For all I know it could be RNG. I'll upload the video to show you guys. Current Streak 18-13 or 17-14.
    Did that guy also have a giratina on his team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDaikenki View Post
    Did that guy also have a giratina on his team?
    I don't remember seeing a Giratina in the preview. Video is up, 52-66455-14677
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    Oh, because I faced a team that was similar to that (when I was in the 1650s), then after that. A wave of bad luck happened which caused me to be in the 1490s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marbi Z View Post
    But most in game Legends are around LV 40 while most distributed ones are LV 50 or higher.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    What does that have to do with EV training?
    What Zach said. Levels have nothing to do with EV training. Not even Level 100 anymore; you can even EV train level 100s now, thanks to BW2. Levels have nothing to do with EVs, and you can soft reset for IVS (which aren't THAT important, bar the Speed IV).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    What does that have to do with EV training?
    The official tournaments temporary set Pokemon at LV 50 Stats so therefore any EV training beyond LV 50 is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDaikenki View Post
    Oh, because I faced a team that was similar to that (when I was in the 1650s), then after that. A wave of bad luck happened which caused me to be in the 1490s
    His exact rating was 1915 I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marbi Z View Post
    The official tournaments temporary set Pokemon at LV 50 Stats so therefore any EV training beyond LV 50 is irrelevant.
    How is it irrelevant? The EVs stay, even if they level changes.
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    Just my luck, I'm facing some guy named Brandon (score 1850) and his Sawk froze my Dragonite before he had a chance to use hurricane
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDaikenki View Post
    That, or leagally hacked
    Actually... it's very possibly to hack legit legends (Pokegen). Not saying I do it, but I've seen video's that it can be done

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDaikenki View Post
    Just my luck, I'm facing some guy named Brandon (score 1850) and his Sawk froze my Dragonite before he had a chance to use hurricane
    I still think Hurricane is a bit risky to use without Rain support. But if it works for you, don't try and fix it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marbi Z View Post
    But most in game Legends are around LV 40 while most distributed ones are LV 50 or higher.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    What does that have to do with EV training?
    Quote Originally Posted by jstinftw! View Post
    What Zach said. Levels have nothing to do with EV training. Not even Level 100 anymore; you can even EV train level 100s now, thanks to BW2. Levels have nothing to do with EVs, and you can soft reset for IVS (which aren't THAT important, bar the Speed IV).
    Ignored? haha

    Quote Originally Posted by Marbi Z View Post
    The official tournaments temporary set Pokemon at LV 50 Stats so therefore any EV training beyond LV 50 is irrelevant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    How is it irrelevant? The EVs stay, even if they level changes.
    Again, as Zach said, EVs stay regardless. You can EV train a Pokemon at level 100 and it will still stay there when it's Auto-Levelled to 50. By that logic, evolving a Pokemon past level 50 and a Pokemon learning a move after level 50 would also be illegal/impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstinftw! View Post
    Again, as Zach said, EVs stay regardless. You can EV train a Pokemon at level 100 and it will still stay there when it's Auto-Levelled to 50. By that logic, evolving a Pokemon past level 50 and a Pokemon learning a move after level 50 would also be illegal/impossible.
    Technically speaking, that's what breeding's for... though I pretty sure there's no feasible why of catching that (if that's what the unwritten rule of de-leveling was). And yes I know exactly what were talking about (EVs and how they stay no matter what level).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Actually... it's very possibly to hack legit legends (Pokegen). Not saying I do it, but I've seen video's that it can be done


    I still think Hurricane is a bit risky to use without Rain support. But if it works for you, don't try and fix it
    Hurricane works well, its that Sawk haxed my d-nite before he can attack, now Zekrom is wrecking my team with outrage. Also, I did see a lot of ppokemon come out of cherish balls (which im not sure some are event pokes)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDaikenki View Post
    Hurricane works well, its that Sawk haxed my d-nite before he can attack, now Zekrom is wrecking my team with outrage. Also, I did see a lot of ppokemon come out of cherish balls (which im not sure some are event pokes)
    Just taking about the accuracy issue, but of coarse Hurricane is a great move

    Mewtwo, Genesect, Reshiram, Zekrom, and Victini are... not sure what other Poke's you might have seen though
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    Just beat this guy in the 1400s. Was a good battle, he almost got me (even though I finished with 3). Anyways, current streak 19-13 or 18-14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Technically speaking, that's what breeding's for... though I pretty sure there's no feasible why of catching that (if that's what the unwritten rule of de-leveling was). And yes I know exactly what were talking about (EVs and how they stay no matter what level).
    Fair point, but I was just mentioning a couple of simple problems with the logic Marbi Z had presented.

    No offense to Marbi Z though, I just want to help you be informed and stuff, haha. Nothing personal, it's a fair assumption.

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    Suddenly, I have a strong hatred of Darkrai...
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    Technical mumbo jumbo. As they said, the EVs stay. All that level does is scale the benefit. IE barring nature, a lv 100 poke gets +63 to a stat with252 EV's. Being toned down to lv 50, that benefit is +32, but you still need all 252 EV's.

    If you think 'I only need half the EV's since they are lv 50' you'll only see +16 if you go to 124 or so.
    It's why you don't see lv 5's with 75 attack and speed :P

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    Hey, can someone do quick damage calcs on what an adamant 252 ev'd +2 Blaziken does to a max hp/def Groudon?
    Sorry if I'm being a bit lazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Go2heck View Post
    Hey, can someone do quick damage calcs on what an adamant 252 ev'd +2 Blaziken does to a max hp/def Groudon?
    Sorry if I'm being a bit lazy
    What move? I can imagine a Flare Blitz in the sun doing a lot of damage to it...that can even 2HKO Gyarados.

    Though, the calculator I usually use isn't loading properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    What move? I can imagine a Flare Blitz in the sun doing a lot of damage to it...that can even 2HKO Gyarados.

    Though, the calculator I usually use isn't loading properly.
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    Just lost to a guy in the 1700s. Name is Raza, rank 1709, Canada, Garchomp, Politoed, Thunderus, Tyranitar, Terrakion, Volcarona. Didn't seem to bad, but I lost badly, so I don't know if you guys battled him and he RQd. Not saying everyone high-up there are RQers, but it'd be nice to single them out. Current Streak: 19-14 or 18-15
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    It'd only deal about half damage to groudon at max HP/DEF, groudon does have 140 base def to blaziekns 120 att
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arande View Post
    It'd only deal about half damage to groudon at max HP/DEF, groudon does have 140 base def to blaziekns 120 att
    Good, I was expecting that, although naturally due to a varying spread Blaziken took about 75% of this guy's hp. I've never bothered with Groudon so I wouldn't know lol.

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    Lost again. I'm having a good stroke of bad luck now. Streak is running 20-15 or 19-16. Also encountered my third RQer at the party select. Character name Katrina, Wisconsin, 1400s, Scrafty Milotic Ampharos Flygon Braviary Infernape. Anyone else encounter this person?
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