Results 1 to 3 of 3

Thread: Complete and Utter Indecision by Kyochi!(2013 Winter Friendly)

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    NEW YORK
    Posts
    42

    Default Complete and Utter Indecision by Kyochi!(2013 Winter Friendly)

    This is my team for the Rotation Battle Friendly. I need help with this team because i have many weaknesses I'm trying to avoid, yet certain combinations work too well to just brush them off my team.

    Kyogre

    Item-Chesto Berry/Leftovers
    Nature-Bold
    Evs-252 Hp, 252 defense, 4 special attack
    Calm Mind
    Scald
    Rest
    Ice Beam/Sleep Talk/Thunder

    The main boss of this team. It is one of my two set up sweepers and forms one half of the core made with Jirachi dubbed "Kyochi" because Jirachi in the rain can wall certain threats that would use fire-type moves as coverage, such as White Kyurem and Mewtwo. This guy alone is my answer to most Arceus Calm Minders, and it is my primary Groudon disrupter.

    Jirachi

    Item-Sitrus Berry/Leftover
    Nature-Careful
    Evs-252 Hp, 224 Special Defense, 32 Speed
    Wish
    Thunder Wave
    Iron Head
    Zen Headbutt/Protect

    The second half of my walling combo. I wanted to use a slightly different Ev spread that could put the speed Evs into Defense instead, but I received an Ev'd Jirachi, though it might still work. This Pokemon with Kyogre's presence does a great job of walling Mewtwo, Kyurem-W and the like, and because of rotation, with prediction it can wall those two without Kyogre's help. Thunderwave can put down most sweepers in their tracks, Iron Head is for Mewtwo, Kyurem-W etc, while Zen Headbutt is for the rare case of a bulky water or electric, such as Palkia. Wish can provide free healing for my team, while protect would allow Jirachi to heal itself.

    Tornadus-Incarnate Forme
    \
    Item-Focus Sash
    Nature-Timid
    Evs- 4 HP, 252 S. Attack, 252 Speed
    Tailwind
    Taunt
    Rain Dance
    Hurricane
    This is the Tailwinder of the team that should be able to allow me to revenge kill Dragon Dancing threats without the use of the crippling choice scarf. If this fails, I can use Jirachi's resistances and Thunder Wave to achieve this instead. In the case of Garchomp, who resists Thunder Wave and is faster than my whole team bar Tornadus, my next pokemon can easily put it out of commission. Hurricane is used for grass type coverage, Taunt is to stop other potential Tailwinds, while Rain Dance can gain control of the weather in case the rain is absent.

    Arceus-Ground Type

    Evs- 252 Hp 4 Special Attack 252 Speed
    Item-Earth Plate
    Nature-Timid
    Calm Mind
    Judgment
    Ice Beam
    Recover
    The main counters to most forms of Dialga and Zekrom, this pokemon here is my nullifier to electric attacks and is my other boosting sweeper. The reason I used a special ground type as opposed to physical ones is because I could then be able to go ahead and counter Bulk Up Dialga as well.

    Giratina-Origin Forme

    Item-Griseous Orb
    Nature-Lonely
    Evs- Have yet to decide
    Will-o-Wisp/Aura Sphere
    Shadow Force/Shadow Claw/Shadow Sneak
    Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    Thunder/Energy Ball/Whatever

    I honestly cannot even decide whether to use this or the Altered Forme to counter physical Arceus better. However, this one has better mixed potential. I'm still confused as whether to use Giratina at all because it would stack up on my ice weaknesses. The only real reason i have for Giratina's usage is to deal with physical boosting Arceus in the first instance.

    Zekrom

    Nature-Naughty/Lonely
    Item-Life Orb/Yache Berry/Haban Berry
    Ev's 252 Attack, 120 special attack, the rest in speed
    Bolt Strike
    Dragon Claw/Outrage
    Focus Blast
    Tailwind

    This is my premier all stops to Kyogre, and my secondary Tailwind setter. The reason I used this over Black Kyurem is because a life orb Bolt Strike is gauranteed to KO even the bulkiest of Kyogres. Focus Blast is there to try and solve my problems with Ferrothorn.

    Conclusion-I really need help with this team. With so many members on my team having Ice Weaknesses, and not enough reliable ways of dealing with special walls and ferrothorn, I am now asking for your opinions on my team. Thank you.

    EDIT-TOO MANY ICE WEAKNESSES AND NOT ENOUGH PHYSICAL ATTACKERS!
    Last edited by ReshiramBlue; 9th February 2013 at 6:01 AM.
    [CENTER]My Autumn Friendly 2012 and Winter Battle 2012 Team


    My International Challenge (January 2013) Team


    My Winter Friendly (2013) Team

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    The Old West
    Posts
    1,255

    Default

    Item-Chesto Berry/Leftovers
    Nature-Bold
    Evs-252 Hp, 252 defense, 4 special attack
    Calm Mind
    Scald
    Rest
    Ice Beam/Sleep Talk/Thunder
    Go for Ice Beam>Thunder. Dragons will be everywhere. Unless you do decide on sleep talk...
    Giratina-Origin Forme

    Item-Griseous Orb
    Nature-Lonely
    Evs- Have yet to decide
    Will-o-Wisp/Aura Sphere
    Shadow Force/Shadow Claw/Shadow Sneak
    Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    Thunder/Energy Ball/Whatever
    Whatever you do, don't use Shadow Force. Even if it protects itself, it's just begging for a steel type to rotate in on the second turn. I'd consider using Dragon Pulse over Draco Meteor. Swapping out should be avoiding in rotation battles, so at least Dragon Pulse will let you have a second chance for a special attack if something goes wrong with Draco Meteor, like if the wrong pokemon rotates in.

    What's your point in going mixed? You could go special based and give it Shadow Ball. I'd think Will-o-Wisp/ShadowBall/DragonPulse/Aura Sphere. Will-o-Wisp would help you put Arceus out of action completely. Aura Sphere is perfect coverage for it's STABs.

    Edit: If you want to remove Giratina and still keep Swords Dance Extreme Speed Arceus in check, Ghost Arceus can cripple it with will-o-wisp as well. Though, this means you'll lose your Zekrom and Dialga answer, you could try Groudon. If it's not in the lead spot when the rotation battle starts, it's Drought shouldn't activate, meaning it won't clash with your Kyogre.
    Last edited by Zachmac; 9th February 2013 at 2:27 AM.
    Venemo Oscuridad - 6 Battles
    Goldeen keeps stealing the Magical Karp's splashing glory in Smash.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    NEW YORK
    Posts
    42

    Default

    Thank you for your suggestions. If I were add a physical fighting type, my problems with ferrothorn and dialga may be relieved. Cobalion can disrupt dialga, as can a specially defensive groudon to deal with mixed dialga and zekrom. I will consider reworking my team for quite some time now.
    Last edited by ReshiramBlue; 9th February 2013 at 6:09 AM.
    [CENTER]My Autumn Friendly 2012 and Winter Battle 2012 Team


    My International Challenge (January 2013) Team


    My Winter Friendly (2013) Team

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •