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    I like AG more than DP. DP has better battles and a better league but AG has better fillers, better group interactions imo and I like Ash's Hoenn team more than his Sinnoh team. Brock's treatment in AG is also better than in DP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charizard-Fan View Post
    I like AG more than DP. DP has better battles and a better league but AG has better fillers, better group interactions imo and I like Ash's Hoenn team more than his Sinnoh team. Brock's treatment in AG is also better than in DP.
    I agree expect for the Brock part. I felt Brock disappeared in Hoenn because my focus was more on Max and May.

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    I haven't liked Best Wishes much since the 4th Gym battle. That's around where the saga fell apart. But it didn't truly become bad until BW2...which was probably the worst batch of episodes leading up to that awful league.

    I just don't understand why the writers stopped caring about Ash and his Pokemon. This team was so lackluster and it feels like they didn't accomplish anything. The poor handling of Team Rocket throughout the entire generation hasn't helped.

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    In my opionion that Pokemon Best Wishes wasn't trying to do the same dumb things that Dp did in the past. Even though it doesn't focus on Ash and his Pokemon that much it was doing something that Kanto was doing when it first began. It more focus on the adventures and charaters that made Best Wishes a good piece here. The battle maybe down grade from the last, but it made it defferent from the other sages that came before it. Team Rocket finally had some focus on being more of an evil organazition then any other region then just having only one to two arc and that is it. I can say that Ash's Unova team is very memberable and different then he had in the sinnoh region. Some Pokemon like Palatoad didn't have an episode outside the pokeball, however they still personally in battle then anything else. Unova is better then the Sinnoh League because some of the charaters like Bianca and Spehen had time to devolvop and had more chemisty with the main charter then Dp ever did. The story of BW had more of a simpler plot then Dp did so it didn't make some episode don't as bad as they were. Even though Ash was down graded in this sage he was still enjoyable and had more fun with thing then he had in Dp

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    Even though I don't like his regression in BW at all, Ash is still my favourite character. He's also a lot like Rocky imo.
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    I like Paul because his jerkass attitude was refreshing compared to how Ash and the others were often too happy or peppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    I find the "Brock/Cilan's exposition corner" part of the gym/league battles to be very intrusive to the action.
    I find all outside dialogue, AKA anything not from a battling party to be intrusive.

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    I felt like Armaldo should have won. He had the advantage. I don't care if Quilava just evolved. If armaldo can take down Staraptor there's no way it should have tied with a Quilava. Plus Heracross could have beaten him easily afterwards anyways so Ash didn't have to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charizard-Fan View Post
    Even though I don't like his regression in BW at all, Ash is still my favourite character. He's also a lot like Rocky imo.
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    I'm dreading to see how XY anime will adapt the customization feature. Why? Well, I don't really want to see scenes devoted to Yvonne (my fanon name for the XY girl, who I really don't want as a main character) deciding what clothes she has to wear (kinda like the Dawn's hair thing, only 10x worse and more drawn out)....especially if it involves fanservice (please, PLEASE NO BEACH EPISODES IN XY). That would be worse than ANY training scene/episode, IMO. Additionally, the writers adapting customization might also mean...more time devoted to TR's stupid disguises...
    Outfit changing should be either glossed over, or off-screen, like on The Weekenders, X-Men: Evolution, or Totally Spies!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    I find all outside dialogue, AKA anything not from a battling party to be intrusive.



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    I felt like Armaldo should have won. He had the advantage. I don't care if Quilava just evolved. If armaldo can take down Staraptor there's no way it should have tied with a Quilava. Plus Heracross could have beaten him easily afterwards anyways so Ash didn't have to lose.
    Staraptor was dead tired. These factors play an important role in battles. Quialava has the speed to dodge Rock Blast. Did you forget it's insane dodging abilities from Johto? He can dodge stuff like Rock Blast and hit with Eruption. In the end one Rock Blast will hit after Quilava gets exhausted or something. That's when the on-screen battle comes into play.

    I'm still amazed how you can say Quilava beating Armaldo is unlikely after watching sixteen(fifteen?) seasons of Pokemon, we have seen much worse matchups in the course of history.
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    I think that
    -Best Wishes (1) was good, although it's the first part has more quality than the second part of it. It's clear that tthe standards are lower than Diamond and Pearl but it's a interesting saga nonehteless. Season 2, even with the league, is a good saga with a few interesting plot. I aren't a fan of Episode N because I aren't a fan of villain plots; that doesn't mean that is interesting to watch regardless.

    But Decolora Adventure is a crap of season and is a really boring arc. I want that sub-saga to end as soon as possible. And although they are episodes that I liked (the Oshawott and the Zoroark) in general, I think that this is worse than all the terrible sagas that the fandom complains:
    -The League. Even with the crap of league, it's a league, has some good things and it was better than a series of fillers and semi-fillers.
    -Dawn's cameo: I think that the reason why the Hoenn career hasn't brought up is because a plot hole (remember that this specials doesn't exist internationally). It's the reason why everything of the special hasn't brought up in BW2 (except Quilava for obvious reasons). I don't think that he lack of evolutions (1/2 for the main anime vs 3/5 for May isn't that bad) and Dawn has three and half episodes of screentime (Yes, more or equal than Cilan in Season 2 until two weeks ago).
    -And Cynthia and Meloetta screentime were very good and it was really developed for Pokemon's standards.
    -Iris: Iris isn't crap like many people said. It's true that there's bad writing with Iris (like with everyone else) but the Iris story in the Dragon village is interesting, Dragonite was well developed. It's more, if it weren't because the offer of being Opelucid Gym Leader, I think that Iris has more/equal reasons than Cilan to become a main character in Gen VI.

    Although I agree that Trip is a bad rival, I think that the fandom make Trip worse and causes his defeat in the League to early.
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    It amazes me how good the last few sagas of the anime were when you think back to them. We didn't realize it as they were airing, but that's probably the best the anime will ever get. The writers acknowledged what was mishandled in Johto and improved the series tremendously.

    DP really should have been the climax of Ash's story.

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    It's amazing how this thread has turned from an unpopular opinions thread to a dumping grounds for people's complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doryuzu View Post
    It's amazing how this thread has turned from an unpopular opinions thread to a dumping grounds for people's complaints.
    Yup its the opinions thread not the unpopular opinions thread, been like that for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Yup its the opinions thread not the unpopular opinions thread, been like that for a while.
    Time to get it back on track, then.

    Here's an unpopular opinion, even if an unsurprising one from me: Team Rocket in AG and especially DP and Da! forgot their roots, and their subsequent bending to fit whatever lunatic role they had to week by week turned their characters into far more "lobotomized" forms than what they were in BW. No person with a functioning nervous system actually acts like that. Even if BW didn't return them to their roots entirely, it was still closer than anything else and was a lot more enjoyable for it.

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    Team Rocket were largely unneeded in the anime post-Johto anyway. They should of just wrapped up the TR plot like the GS games did back then, but of course Takeshi Shudo didn't want to see his favorite characters gone from the show.

    Its odd to me, because when the original series ended both Misty and Gary left the series as major characters....but Brock and Team Rocket remained. Had TR or Brock left too, then you could have said the original series really was the end for the entire older cast.

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    Shudo could have dumped Team Rocket at that time, but he thought they still had potential to be explored. He probably didn't know they'd do and mean absolutely nothing for the next ten years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Butler View Post
    Shudo could have dumped Team Rocket at that time, but he thought they still had potential to be explored. He probably didn't know they'd do and mean absolutely nothing for the next ten years.
    It seems that mr. Shudo had very high opinion about Team Rocket having many plans to do much more with them, than just being suck in never ending comic relief role iof trying to catch Pikachu and failing. According to his blogs he often got in clash with other writers and director in what direction show should be taken ending frustrated of not being able to write for Tr in way he originally intended.

    I cant help but not to wander in what way Jessie, James and Meowth would be written if he stayed in charge for Hoenn and Sinnoh.

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    On different note not sure how popular or unpopular this is but personally i would had preferred if Misty stayed in cast for Hoenn. I enjoyed in her flamboyant, slightly timid and spirited personality bringing lot of humor, sarcasm and spice in anime dynamics adding personal signature to this show.

    There was definitely potential to do more with her, such as breaking new grounds from Whirl Cup in Hoenn entering future events through which water master career could be progressed, do more with her pokemon team and learn how to overcome their flaws(she never developed defense to types like electric), catch new pokemon and work with them meeting unique creatures like Surskit allowing for potential growth, play role in Team Aqua, Magma plot who wanted to eradicate water types, meet other water specialists like Juan and Wallace learning how to use said type in best manner, meet etc.

    Along with bringing new light to this show by having two girls in main cast for first time, assuming May would still join. I believe they could bring great dynamic in cast, and have chance to create closer bond as friends.

    She has rich personality, unique goals and many qualities so i wouldn't indeed if this happened or she ever came back in future with writers replacing her in way that she could receive sequel and come back leaving things undefined and open to allow to rank up as trainer. Like various gym leaders in past did becoming something more.

    Naturally i don't expect that others share my view, but this was you could say another one of my "unpopular" opinions on this site.

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    in my opinon misty should have stay as a side character then a main one. they should have gave her more pokemon fo4 different type, so she could have more help to the group. Make something more on why she's traveling with Ash then being the girl in the group. And the biggish thing would be is have moreover development about water pokemon then being vague

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    Team Rocket were largely unneeded in the anime post-Johto anyway. They should of just wrapped up the TR plot like the GS games did back then, but of course Takeshi Shudo didn't want to see his favorite characters gone from the show.

    Its odd to me, because when the original series ended both Misty and Gary left the series as major characters....but Brock and Team Rocket remained. Had TR or Brock left too, then you could have said the original series really was the end for the entire older cast.
    Gary and misty also when through major character development until the end of johto, while brock and TRio basically barely did at all. So in a sense, Gary and misty's stories ended, At least relative to what they were for what we saw on screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yuoke View Post
    Gary and misty also when through major character development until the end of johto, while brock and TRio basically barely did at all. So in a sense, Gary and misty's stories ended, At least relative to what they were for what we saw on screen.
    Gary story in a way did ended since his rivalry with Ash ended choosing to change career and become pokemon researcher.

    However in Misty case while she went through some notable growth becoming more mature and independent getting over complex of feeling inferior to sisters along with coping better with responsibility, her story was left in reality unresolved.
    She didn't come to fruition how to accomplish her dreams, goal of becoming water master was never fulfilled and many things about her past, fears, motivations etc. were left unexplored not changing her goal but also not being set up what are her future plans ever since she took over gym out of obligation and necessity leaving things undefined.

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    I think Shudo should have dumped Team Rocket for Hoenn as opposed to Misty (so his favorites wouldn't get disgraced).
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    Quote Originally Posted by marioluigifan05 View Post
    I think Shudo should have dumped Team Rocket for Hoenn as opposed to Misty (so his favorites wouldn't get disgraced).
    Oh please no. What would Misty do in Hoenn? Contests?


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    She could try them out at least once. Also, Misty hadn't even reached her full potential at the time she left (Hoenn is known for its water, so...).

    And it's better than TR doing absolutely nothing of interest for TWO WHOLE REGIONS, spouting out lame lines each time they open their mouths...
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    I liked the fact they moved on from Misty at the end of Johto. I love Brock and don't mind TR outside of the dub but I would have liked if they didn't bring back Brock just to fully show the umbilical cord has been cut with Ash. From OS/Johto to Hoenn Ash went from being mentored by Misty and Brock to Mentoring May. I think Brock was more there for Max and to keep ash grounded (See vs. Flannery) TR should have had a larger role but how they are treated now in BW pre DA i have no issue with. I just see a big TR scheme coming TR had a hand in taking down Galactic and Plasma and a very minor hand in taking down Aqua and Magma.


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