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    Quote Originally Posted by fer92 View Post
    Common sense and knowing that Tamagawa hasn't done a episode in 19 months. It's speculation, we don't know why Axew learnt Outrage.
    That seems more like a theory than common sense.

    It's known that Best Wishes has more stocked animation than other sagas. And the wrutera are fans to certain attacks. I don't go as far as Pepsi plunge but there's episodes with a lot of stocked animation. The best example was Nonomi episode.
    Huh? Since when did BW have more stock animation than other sagas? DP for example, from my rewatches of various episodes recently, used quite a lot of stock footage itself.


    Not sure how unpopular this is here but I didn't care for Tobias. It just felt so unrealistic for a trainer to appear in the league who supposedly swept every single Sinnoh Gym Leader using solely his Darkrai and almost won the whole Sinnoh League using just a Darkrai. This why I preferred Tyson, while Ash did lose the lose wasn't that horrendous and the full-battle wasn't rushed and was entertaining compared to Tobias's marathon clean sweep of almost everyone of Ash's reserves + Gible. It's just entirely unfair when you consider the fact this guy beat around 20-30 Gym Leader owned Pokemon without Darkrai ever losing once. A little backstory or at least foreshadowing on how long he had that Darkrai would have been much better and satisfying if the writers clearly decided that the Sinnoh League was going to begin with Conway and end with Paul. During the Nando battle, as rushed and bland as it was, could have sufficed during TR's bleh scene. Past legendary Pokemon weren't portrayed as being nearly as invincible, Regice, Moltres, Articuno, Meloetta, Raikou, and the Kami Trio for examples can easily be subdued by one or more exceptionally-powered Pokemon.

    Another unpopular opinion is I'm not really bothered at all by the stock animation, Pokemon, like almost every other fighting anime in Japan uses stock animation often because it's cheap. It makes sense to me given long-running anime like these aren't expected to have clean-cut animation every episode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doryuzu View Post
    That seems more like a theory than common sense.

    Huh? Since when did BW have more stock animation than other sagas? DP for example, from my rewatches of various episodes recently, used quite a lot of stock footage itself.


    Not sure how unpopular this is here but I didn't care for Tobias. It just felt so unrealistic for a trainer to appear in the league who supposedly swept every single Sinnoh Gym Leader using solely his Darkrai and almost won the whole Sinnoh League using just a Darkrai. This why I preferred Tyson, while Ash did lose the lose wasn't that horrendous and the full-battle wasn't rushed and was entertaining compared to Tobias's marathon clean sweep of almost everyone of Ash's reserves + Gible. It's just entirely unfair when you consider the fact this guy beat around 20-30 Gym Leader owned Pokemon without Darkrai ever losing once. A little backstory or at least foreshadowing on how long he had that Darkrai would have been much better and satisfying if the writers clearly decided that the Sinnoh League was going to begin with Conway and end with Paul. During the Nando battle, as rushed and bland as it was, could have sufficed during TR's bleh scene. Past legendary Pokemon weren't portrayed as being nearly as invincible, Regice, Moltres, Articuno, Meloetta, Raikou, and the Kami Trio for examples can easily be subdued by one or more exceptionally-powered Pokemon.

    Another unpopular opinion is I'm not really bothered at all by the stock animation, Pokemon, like almost every other fighting anime in Japan uses stock animation often because it's cheap. It makes sense to me given long-running anime like these aren't expected to have clean-cut animation every episode.
    Yeah, Ash vs Tobias, and this is a really unpopular opinion, is a bad written battle (don't woory, the Unova one was directly horrible) because it wa smade for Ash being unbeatable. However, I want to notice that Ash isn't known to being in Bst Woishes (we know for leaks, but not officially) until Ash loses the Sinnoh League. After that episode, a preview aired and now Ash IS officially in the series.

    Other unpopular opinoon is that the Club Battle was made because the good chemistry apart from the battles that they have. And the chemistry was very good.

    I know if there's a unpopular opinion but Iris and Dawn being BFF was forced because Iris is getting screentime during that time. And in the Onix episode, Dawn acted out of character. Dawn saying "such's a little kid" annoys me as the catchpthrase annoyed us. And like Ash I was used to Iris and "such's a little kid". I'm annoyed with this episode with it isn't filler because Ash's Oshawott learned Hydro Pump and because Meloetta showed her Pirouette Form.

    I think that Dawn was better treated in BW during her episodes better than one of the main character since the former came out, Cilan. Since Cilan don't promote the games, his screentime went downhill.

    And about your opinion on AG, I think that both Hoenn (yes, Hoenn only) and Sinnoh were really good. The AG quartet chemistry was better than DP, the humor was better than DP and the series was faster-paced (Ag lasted 4 years but Hoenn alsted 3 years). For me, Sinnoh is a example of a low paced series and Hoenn is a example of doing a fast paced series. Sinnoh is a little better for me but I don't understimate Hoenn, who if BW is better to compare than Sinnoh.
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    When DP first started I thought Dawn was going to have the best team of all the girls, simply because she caught two pokemon by her 15th episode and they were getting a lot of screentime. Little did I know after that Buizel would be traded, Ambipom would be released, and Cyndaquil/Togekiss just felt like last-minute fillers. Mamoswine also didn't have as many battles as I would have liked.

    I also find it odd the writers tricked us into thinking Dawn was going to capture a lot of pokemon at first like Kanto Ash, she tried to capture a Burmy and some other pokemon in early DP I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    When DP first started I thought Dawn was going to have the best team of all the girls, simply because she caught two pokemon by her 15th episode and they were getting a lot of screentime. Little did I know after that Buizel would be traded, Ambipom would be released, and Cyndaquil/Togekiss just felt like last-minute fillers. Mamoswine also didn't have as many battles as I would have liked.

    I also find it odd the writers tricked us into thinking Dawn was going to capture a lot of pokemon at first like Kanto Ash, she tried to capture a Burmy and some other pokemon in early DP I remember.
    I had hoped that Dawn would catch a fair amount of pokemon too, I was quite annoyed with the whole Aipom-Buizel trade, and then the release of Ambipom. To me, the whole thing was just an opportunity to show off the trading to new fans and to make Ash's new water type interesting for a while. I wish that Ash had either kept Aipom as his wildcard and caught buizel/another water pokemon if Dawn kept Buizel (He could even rotate Gliscor and Gible or send them both to training), but just releasing Ambipom to a pokemon pingpong tournament was just a buzkill for me. I mean, Ambipom was much more powerful than Buneary and had more moves, yet the first normal type of her team was kept instead; never made sense to me.

    For my unpopular opinon, I guess it is Brock leaving and Cilan taking his place (Not sure if it is popular or not, but I'll just mention it anywho). Even though Brock was on the main cast for years and never accomplished much, I always thought he was much more interesting than Cilan. Sure he had those annoying moments where he would flirt with female characters and would always get forced away by Misty/Max/Croagunk, but I always liked his intelligence on the pokemon. Helping Ash and Paul with advice on their training styles and helping them train through battles was great for me, as it actually offered a serious side to the main trio for once.

    Though I'm slightly biased as I just don't like the character of Cilan that much (I thought he was interesting in the games, but I've grown to dislike him in the anime); he reminds me too much of Brock and I don't like his voice actor. Still, he's a good battler and has decent pokemon, so I guess he'll do as a castmember for a while.
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    The unpopular opinions continue.
    26: Playing off the Buizel and Aipom trade. I found both Buizel and Aipom more interesting with their original trainers. Not a unpopular opinion on Aipom's half but for Buizel's half it is. Buizel was Dawn's most interesting Pokemon when she had it and I was eager to see how she would turn such a battle oriented and mean attitude Pokemon into a Contest star, instead they went the lazy route and traded it for Aipom. Buizel felt boring under Ash's control and I will always see it nothing more then a poor man's Treecko/Grovyle/Sceptile under Ash. It was boring. Aipom was boring with Dawn too and her contest style gave Ash's team more flavor. But that one isn't unpopular as most fine Aipom better with Ash, but IMO Buizel stopped being interesting the minute he left Dawn.
    27: Many people think BW is Ash's first regression, but IMO it first happened in DP. The only difference is he regained his skills rather quickly in DP unlike BW. You did go from Ash having a Sceptile, Glalie, Corphish, Torkoal, and Swellow that carried a entire league by themselves, heck Sceptile battles like two Legendaries in BF, then we start at DP with Turtwig, Aipom, and Staravia for the first few episodes. Of course they made Ash not as strong as he use to be and factor in Paul and there you have it. It's just DP Ash recovered his strength early on and it's hardly noticeable.
    28: At this point in the series, I don't think Ash needs rivals on the show anymore, at least not full time ones. Between Paul and Gary, what more can you do with Ash vs regional rival? It's cliche now, and the writers aren't even trying to make rivals even interesting anymore without copying a old rival. New rookie characters need rivals more then Ash because of how the characters react to a rival. With Ash it's the same reaction all the time. This is another reason I thought AG Ash was handled so well. Hmm, I probably mentioned this one before on this thread. Still a highly unpopular opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum fan. View Post
    27: Many people think BW is Ash's first regression, but IMO it first happened in DP. The only difference is he regained his skills rather quickly in DP unlike BW. You did go from Ash having a Sceptile, Glalie, Corphish, Torkoal, and Swellow that carried a entire league by themselves, heck Sceptile battles like two Legendaries in BF, then we start at DP with Turtwig, Aipom, and Staravia for the first few episodes. Of course they made Ash not as strong as he use to be and factor in Paul and there you have it. It's just DP Ash recovered his strength early on and it's hardly noticeable.
    28: At this point in the series, I don't think Ash needs rivals on the show anymore, at least not full time ones. Between Paul and Gary, what more can you do with Ash vs regional rival? It's cliche now, and the writers aren't even trying to make rivals even interesting anymore without copying a old rival. New rookie characters need rivals more then Ash because of how the characters react to a rival. With Ash it's the same reaction all the time. This is another reason I thought AG Ash was handled so well. Hmm, I probably mentioned this one before on this thread. Still a highly unpopular opinion.
    I agree, Sinnoh Ash is probably the most competent one at the end but he did start out as a regression of AG Ash imo too.

    Also agree on the rivals part. If they're going to give Ash a main rival again next gen they should do something different and by the gods don't make him a rookie. Best would be if the new side kicks got more fleshed out and threatening rivals while Ash got more casual ones like Kenyan. We really can't have another Trip next gen, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    I also find it odd the writers tricked us into thinking Dawn was going to capture a lot of pokemon at first like Kanto Ash, she tried to capture a Burmy and some other pokemon in early DP I remember.
    She only tried to catch Burmy in addition to Buneary, which she later got. Not too different to May's attemt at Azurill. It's just the obligatory "new trainer finds out that catch Pokemon isn't that easy the hard way" deal.
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    I think Ash's Phanpy is his best Ground-type, not only because of its design and power but because it's one of the few Pokemon on this show to utilize Earthquake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doryuzu View Post
    I think Ash's Phanpy is his best Ground-type, not only because of its design but because it's one of the few Pokemon on this show to utilize Earthquake.
    It was just lucky to be caught before that whiscash ep ****ed up the move..

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    I really liked Max. Having 4 people part of the main group was a really cool and fresh new dynamic.

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    That Gliscor had good charater devlment and was awesome betting Drapion

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-am-the-peel View Post
    Helping Ash and Paul with advice on their training styles and helping them train through battles was great for me, as it actually offered a serious side to the main trio for once.
    Oh yes! As much as I thought Brock got downgraded to drywall paper, I really liked his influence in the rivalry. He made me like Paul going through some older episodes, I mean I always liked Paul as an antagonist and rival, but Brock made me like him as a character. The detail and set-up he provided for the rivalry with talking to Chimchar at the Tag Battle and having a discussion with Paul about Chimchar was probably one of his more entertaining moments in the whole series imo. He supplemented well for the rivalry at some points and I liked his few moments of depths when it came to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Complexity View Post
    I really liked Max. Having 4 people part of the main group was a really cool and fresh new dynamic.
    Yep, his interactions among the AG Quartet made the group dynamic very entertaining.

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    I have several:

    I don't like Misty
    I don't like Pokeshipping
    I like later episodes more than early episodes
    I like both voice casts
    I love fillers
    Season one is not that awesome (but it is definitely nicely unique)

    I don't say these things to start a flame war, they're just my personal opinions.
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    This one is going to be starter related.
    29: Many people said Mudkip was better off with Ash rather then Brock in AG. I will agree with that, but unpopular opinion, I would have rather have seen Mudkip with May. No, that doesn't mean she'd lose Torchic, it means she'd have both Torchic and Mudkip on her AG Pokemon team. And it would evolve at the same time Brock's did in BF so May would have a Combusken and Marshtomp on her team and for her Wallace Cup Cameo she'd bust out a Swampert to go along with her Blaziken and Venusaur. Not really that unpopular but I'm sure most people would want it with Ash rather then his female sidekick bringing me to my next one.
    30: For XY, if we do get active goals again like with May and Dawn and the female is a active battler with her Pokemon, and we have to split the starters, if we don't get a fair AG one-a-piece starter on the main cast I wouldn't mind them trying to have the female lead juggle two starters instead of Ash. However she'd have to go the May route rather then Dawn's. And I'm not talking about repeat starters like Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Cyndaquil (All who evolved) I'm talking about home region starters. Ash has all his home regions starters, so I fail to see why a female of her home region can't have the same number of starters. Though I would limit it to two, not all three.
    31:The reason the male sidekick doe less then the female sidekick is because Ash represents the male of the region, even if he isn't from that region. It's why his clothes look based on whatever the male's clothes are for that region. So anyone who thinks the male sidekick will get more then the female sidekick, that's not likely to happen. They have one male doing everything already, the female is just to make the show look less sexist then it already is. Iris and Cilan are can be a exception to that depending on who you view as more important I guess. I don't really know. This may be unpopular or not depending on how you view it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Complexity View Post
    I really liked Max. Having 4 people part of the main group was a really cool and fresh new dynamic.
    Doesn't really help if the fourth character is merely a fourth wheel on a tricycle. A really squeaky, annoying fourth wheel at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin Attaxx View Post
    Doesn't really help if the fourth character is merely a fourth wheel on a tricycle. A really squeaky, annoying fourth wheel at that.
    Aside from Ash and his female travel companion, the third or fourth character will always be a sidelined character.

    The difference is in BW they managed to make Cilan more prominent than Iris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin Attaxx View Post
    Doesn't really help if the fourth character is merely a fourth wheel on a tricycle. A really squeaky, annoying fourth wheel at that.
    Well, having Brock there wouldn't have been all that fun, so he atleast the group didn't fell completely as dead as the Johto and DP groups.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Caseydia View Post
    Well, having Brock there wouldn't have been all that fun, so he atleast the group didn't fell completely as dead as the Johto and DP groups.
    What do you mean? Because Johto main cast was anything but dead having lot of fire, humor and vibrant interactions between characters. Whether it was Ash naivety and stubbornness, Misty sarcasm and spunk or Brock eccentric, irrational behavior being "voice of reason" giving out feeling of long time known friends which knew themselves very well producing witty and innate interactions.

    In my opinion original trio even in Johto had more engaging and lively dynamic than any cast which came afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemon fan 132 View Post
    What do you mean? Because Johto main cast was anything but dead having lot of fire, humor and vibrant interactions between characters. Whether it was Ash naivety and stubbornness, Misty sarcasm and spunk or Brock eccentric, irrational behavior being "voice of reason" giving out feeling of long time known friends which knew themselves very well producing witty and innate interactions.

    In my opinion original trio even in Johto had more engaging and lively dynamic than any cast which came afterwards.
    Thy (that's I right?) do not think that's an unpopular opinion :P

    What is an unpopular opinion of mine is that Ash had the best friendship with Dawn. Though DP Group didn't flash out as much interactions as previous groups. Brock was just sidelined while Ash/Dawn had all the fun :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin Attaxx View Post
    Doesn't really help if the fourth character is merely a fourth wheel on a tricycle. A really squeaky, annoying fourth wheel at that.
    Meh doesn't matter, I just liked having the whole idea of a fourth character. It made things interesting and less repetitive. I don't really care if they do next to nothing, as long as they're there to talk it's fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanicLanturn View Post
    Thy (that's I right?) do not think that's an unpopular opinion :P
    Yeah that's unpopular, I'm certain most people don't think Johto trio is the best group. I personally find them to be next to the bottom of the barrel in terms of groups.

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