Unpopular opinions you have about the anime(READ THE FIRST POST)

[Joltik-Kid]

Torkoal's loses were due to either Ash misusing Overheat or Ash keeping it in against Golduck and Hariyama

As for Swellow, it could have easily have done the same thing as Thunder Armor if Pikachu used Thunder on it and it got Paralyzed. Guts ability. That is the only DEM Swellow has done only because of the way the attack was performed

This is the pretty big double standard that I notice this fandom has... if a Pokemon loses it's because of Ash (ex. Charizard vs Dusclops) but when they win it's not because of Ash at all (thus making Charizard a god by that standard). This isn't directed at you

Swellow's ability was never truly established, but considering that it only could have one, it probably indeed had Guts. Regardless, Thunder did not paralyze Swellow... paralysis was always marked with sparks emitting from the Pokemon, Swellow was colored gold :P

[TheFonz]

Now you are going into what if mode. It was clear as day guts made it faster.

To stay on topic I introduce another unpopular opinion.

Oshawott should never have been on the show past the juniper ep. Ash should have caught an overactive frillish or something.

I've been saying what if...my point was they could have changed it to Swellow having Guts activated, it goes crazy and it and Pikachu KO Solrock and Lunatone and get the win. Thunder Armor increased their attack power too.

I should contribute something too :P

I think that the TRio getting a promotion was the best way for their story to advance, since their dream was to make
Giovanni happy. Them getting a promotion for "taking down" TA, TM, and TG made perfect sense.

I wish it turned out better though. At first it seemed Giovanni was using TRio to draw out TP...but I don't really get the point now unless something new happens. I guess what I'm saying is I wish their schemes were more connected to an ultimate goal...besides being possessed by a mirror

Also, TRio could have their character as well as do what they did in BW. Just not in front of the bosses

Edit
(Joltik's quote)
I wasn't saying Thunder Armor activated Guts, it's that they could have written it differently using Guts instead of TA

As for Torkoal...those were the cases. He used Overheat too soon against Tropius and that's why Solarbeam matched it(It was even stated about Overheat losing power) and he could have switched it out because of the bad matchup

[kamoarc119]

ash is not a good trainer, how on earth do you have a pikachu for about 5 or 6 years and he still loses to other pokemons? should he not be over level 100 by now impossible yes but still lol

[pokemonsquared]

ash is not a good trainer, how on earth do you have a pikachu for about 5 or 6 years and he still loses to other pokemons? should he not be over level 100 by now impossible yes but still lol

That would be a popular opinion

I liked ash's new eye color.

[TheFonz]

That would be a popular opinion

I liked ash's new eye color.

Yep. Mega popular on Youtube.

I like Ash's eyes too. It was surpising at first, but it makes sense. There's been a bunch of close ups showing his eye color

[Joltik-Kid]

Edit
(Joltik's quote)
I wasn't saying Thunder Armor activated Guts, it's that they could have written it differently using Guts instead of TA

As for Torkoal...those were the cases. He used Overheat too soon against Tropius and that's why Solarbeam matched it(It was even stated about Overheat losing power) and he could have switched it out because of the bad matchup

Just had to make sure ^_^

I get that, just saying most people think when a Pokemon loses it's because Ash did something wrong instead knowing that the other Pokemon is just
stronger (but when the Pokemon wins, it's all because of the Pokemon)

[TheFonz]

Just had to make sure ^_^

I get that, just saying most people think when a Pokemon loses it's because Ash did something wrong instead knowing that the other Pokemon is just
stronger (but when the Pokemon wins, it's all because of the Pokemon)

I think it depends on the battle. I'll use Torkoal Vs Hariyama as an example. Ash made a mistake in keeping Torkoal out when he knows about Hariyama's huge Arm Thrusts, but it was still Torkoal who lost the battle even with it's awesome defense that wasn't used.

While Golduck VS Torkoal, that was all Ash's fault. You can't expect a Torkoal to compete with a Hydro Pump while Iron Defense being disabled. Ash could have recalled just like Katie did, but he was overwhelmed

[Ciccone]

- Piplup is the cutest mascot ever in the Pokemon franchise ;3

I'm sorry, but I really disagree. I'd really like to understand why you believe this so I could at least know where you're coming from.

(Gardenia and her Grass-type fetish)

Um, well she was a Grass-type Gym Leader. I'd be more worried if she didn't like Grass-types. :x

- Lucario vs. Buizel is so overrated and was a pity badge, in the games: Draw = No badge

I agree. I mean I'm not sure how other people felt about it, but I was highly disappointed with that battle. It was like watching an early Kanto Gym battle.

- I liked the Thunder Armor thing, it shows how epic Swellow is

I promised myself I wouldn't lose it, but I did. I just can't even begin to imagine how any one could like that level of deus ex machina. Like, my favorite Pokemon is Oshawott and he's used quite a bit of deus ex machina himself, but I would quit being his fan if he had developed Thunder Armor with Pikachu. Like, I can't even imagine what the writers were thinking when they came up with that. I personally feel that Thunder Armor also made the Mossdeep City Gym battle seem like an early Kanto Gym battle.

[TheFonz]

As I explained...it was the writers' own way of using Swellow's Guts. They just played it out wrong

*Edit*
I'd like to add another opinion. I thought Snivy VS Palpitoad was terrible. Snivy had to use everything to beat something that was getting 4x damage each hit

[OceanicLanturn]

I'm sorry, but I really disagree. I'd really like to understand why you believe this so I could at least know where you're coming from.

Lanturn isn't gonna get merchandised anyways, so yeah. I find Piplup cute. It's round head. Proud personality. That little collar thingy on its body and two white spots. Cute marketable portable, all three criterias are there.

[CyberCubed]

Piplup was entertaining during the first 30 or so DP episodes, but then after that its appeal wore off. I also liked it that Dawn kept it in its ball in early DP.

[pokemon fan 132]

My other unpopular opinion is that I agree with everything CyberCubed has said on this one. I still enjoyed Misty, though. TRio occasionally. The rest of them...it's just annoying.

Personally i don't think ill ever understand what some people find so "horrible" about Misty in Johto.
Its true how she didn't got enough focus there , but right below Ash she received most development ad focus being still treated better than poor Brock and TR. Doing several valuable things and made plenty of mediocre episodes worthwhile watching with her vivacious personality.

Lack of screen time definitely didn't affected her personality still being tomboyish and rebellious, being full of adventurous spirit liking to experiment. I recall she was still that shy girl being grotesgue terrified by bugs, headstrong ending into clash with several characters whether its trainer with Poliwrath, Flareon, Timothy and especially Jessie or James from TR. Curious wanting to try new things like infamous cooking, playing role of detective trying to disclose Gligarman under mask, Butch and Cassidy in pokemon horoscope episode etc.

Passionate for water types showing interest in various ones wanting to catch them, and deep romantic being dreamer finding fascinating concept of love.

People say there was no chemistry between original trio in Johto? Well i strongly disagree with Misty colorful personality being on great part source of appeal and humor produced to their interactions.

There was still arguing between her and Ash when battling for Totodile, in Whirl Cup, when they got lost or come late to catch boat or train(such as for example to travel to islands during Whirl arc). Granted there was less arguing between Ash and Misty, but she still teased Ash quite a lot being cynical about it.
Loud arguing in Johto changed more in mocking and playful teasing with Ash usually answering back to provocations being enjoyable because you had two way interacting.However that not to say they never argued in Johto as well because there still existed tension and competitive fiery rivalry between two which can be noticed in several episodes when battling for Totodile, in Whirl Cup, when they got lost or come late to catch boat or train(such as for example to travel to islands during Whirl arc), when ASh commented on her being Gyarados by horoscope etc.

As well there existing several memorable moments with Brock coming up with inciting remarks being annoyed when he had no tact toward girls, supporting him in his moments of love he felt toward various females like dr. Anna or that girl which wanted to marry him giving him advices and criticism.
Showed curiosity in his knowledge he applied when taking care of pokemon like Sudowoodo, concern when he was suck in danger taking care of him or slapping him to get out of trans(such as when Ninetales hypnotized him9etc.

Only change in her personality was that she gradually became less aggressive compared to Kanto days when mallet and logs were used being sign of development learning to be more mature and tolerant. Something i view as good thing because it made character more competent and tough while still keeping her enjoyable traits being assertive as well spunky and vivid.

If you ask me Misty interactions with Ash or Brock were just as fun as before only building up on established bond created in Kanto, with friendship becoming more profound along with interactions containing more mature spin to them reflecting how she was much more attached to her friends at that point being already familiar with their qualities and imperfections viewing them as her family.
Hence being reason why she was so upset over leaving them at Johto end..

I also noticed she battled more often than she did in Kanto using Poliwag line, Staryu and Corsola in several battles whether it was when battling other trainers or Team Rocket. She entered various competitions (like Seaking catching contest or Alto Mare race)displaying her skills as water trainer,. She also had great dynamic with several characters like fire trainer Egan , Sakura with connection of both having older sisters becoming good friends and rivals in a way,Andreas from Seaking tournament etc.
Doing overall more than she did in first two regions. Contributing to resolution of plots in various episodes befriending Hoot Hoot finding way out of forest allowing them to reach Newbark city,took initiative in breaking Arbok mecha and save Pikachu and Togepi, borrowed Ash her water pokemon to enter fire distinguish competition, helped various characters like Tammy and Politoad to reestablish their friendship and bond.
Etc, etc.

I suppose main reason why this is overlooked is because Johto was longer than previous two regions, with increase of Misty focus not being notable and big enough compared to length of saga.

But personally i enjoyed in Misty character there being fun, vivid and flamboyant but also more mature and independent growing out of sister shadow giving more depth and appeal in different, equally enjoyable light. While getting some valuable growth herself there having many memorable moments.

[Janovy]

I for one still find the anime decent, although BW has been less than average imo.

[Cresselia92]

Despite being disappointed by some of the writers' decisions (especially in BW), I think that Pokemon is a very good anime.

Um... don't know if this should be considered an unpopular opinion.

[matt0044]

Despite being disappointed by some of the writers' decisions (especially in BW), I think that Pokemon is a very good anime.

Um... don't know if this should be considered an unpopular opinion.

I don't think the Anime is inherently bad but I feel that the writers can do far better with a little more effort in storytelling and plotting yet don't.

[Dwail8023]

Despite being disappointed by some of the writers' decisions (especially in BW), I think that Pokemon is a very good anime.

Um... don't know if this should be considered an unpopular opinion.

I used to think the Pokemon anime was a good one...until they kept dragging it on and on for no reason. Now, it's just sad for me to see how it started, and how it will end up. I feel the show was a lot better in its earlier arcs than its latter ones. I've been through a re-run of the entire series, and the newer arcs just don't give me the excitement and happiness I have from watching the older arcs. It's a weird feeling.

Personally i don't think ill ever understand what some people find so "horrible" about Misty in Johto.
Its true how she didn't got enough focus there , but right below Ash she received most development ad focus being still treated better than poor Brock and TR. Doing several valuable things and made plenty of mediocre episodes worthwhile watching with her vivacious personality.

Lack of screen time definitely didn't affected her personality still being tomboyish and rebellious, being full of adventurous spirit liking to experiment. I recall she was still that shy girl being grotesgue terrified by bugs, headstrong ending into clash with several characters whether its trainer with Poliwrath, Flareon, Timothy and especially Jessie or James from TR. Curious wanting to try new things like infamous cooking, playing role of detective trying to disclose Gligarman under mask, Butch and Cassidy in pokemon horoscope episode etc.

Passionate for water types showing interest in various ones wanting to catch them, and deep romantic being dreamer finding fascinating concept of love.

People say there was no chemistry between original trio in Johto? Well i strongly disagree with Misty colorful personality being on great part source of appeal and humor produced to their interactions.

There was still arguing between her and Ash when battling for Totodile, in Whirl Cup, when they got lost or come late to catch boat or train(such as for example to travel to islands during Whirl arc). Granted there was less arguing between Ash and Misty, but she still teased Ash quite a lot being cynical about it.
Loud arguing in Johto changed more in mocking and playful teasing with Ash usually answering back to provocations being enjoyable because you had two way interacting.However that not to say they never argued in Johto as well because there still existed tension and competitive fiery rivalry between two which can be noticed in several episodes when battling for Totodile, in Whirl Cup, when they got lost or come late to catch boat or train(such as for example to travel to islands during Whirl arc), when ASh commented on her being Gyarados by horoscope etc.

As well there existing several memorable moments with Brock coming up with inciting remarks being annoyed when he had no tact toward girls, supporting him in his moments of love he felt toward various females like dr. Anna or that girl which wanted to marry him giving him advices and criticism.
Showed curiosity in his knowledge he applied when taking care of pokemon like Sudowoodo, concern when he was suck in danger taking care of him or slapping him to get out of trans(such as when Ninetales hypnotized him9etc.

Only change in her personality was that she gradually became less aggressive compared to Kanto days when mallet and logs were used being sign of development learning to be more mature and tolerant. Something i view as good thing because it made character more competent and tough while still keeping her enjoyable traits being assertive as well spunky and vivid.

If you ask me Misty interactions with Ash or Brock were just as fun as before only building up on established bond created in Kanto, with friendship becoming more profound along with interactions containing more mature spin to them reflecting how she was much more attached to her friends at that point being already familiar with their qualities and imperfections viewing them as her family.
Hence being reason why she was so upset over leaving them at Johto end..

I also noticed she battled more often than she did in Kanto using Poliwag line, Staryu and Corsola in several battles whether it was when battling other trainers or Team Rocket. She entered various competitions (like Seaking catching contest or Alto Mare race)displaying her skills as water trainer,. She also had great dynamic with several characters like fire trainer Egan , Sakura with connection of both having older sisters becoming good friends and rivals in a way,Andreas from Seaking tournament etc.
Doing overall more than she did in first two regions. Contributing to resolution of plots in various episodes befriending Hoot Hoot finding way out of forest allowing them to reach Newbark city,took initiative in breaking Arbok mecha and save Pikachu and Togepi, borrowed Ash her water pokemon to enter fire distinguish competition, helped various characters like Tammy and Politoad to reestablish their friendship and bond.
Etc, etc.

I suppose main reason why this is overlooked is because Johto was longer than previous two regions, with increase of Misty focus not being notable and big enough compared to length of saga.

But personally i enjoyed in Misty character there being fun, vivid and flamboyant but also more mature and independent growing out of sister shadow giving more depth and appeal in different, equally enjoyable light. While getting some valuable growth herself there having many memorable moments.

Yup, I agree. That's the only person I disagree with when it comes to CyberCubed's flanderization chart. Poor Brock and TRio...imagine making some of the most like-able characters on the show into ones that are constantly neglected.

[Cresselia92]

I don't think the Anime is inherently bad but I feel that the writers can do far better with a little more effort in storytelling and plotting yet don't.

Yeah. They can both create a good story and promote the games. I mean, just the fact that Pokemon are appearing is an advertisement per se.

I used to think the Pokemon anime was a good one...until they kept dragging it on and on for no reason. Now, it's just sad for me to see how it started, and how it will end up. I feel the show was a lot better in its earlier arcs than its latter ones. I've been through a re-run of the entire series, and the newer arcs just don't give me the excitement and happiness I have from watching the older arcs. It's a weird feeling.

You aren't the only one to think that. I feel that the newer arcs are... less inspired. They may have added some surprises and new things, but they haven't had as much impact as past novelties.

[Dwail8023]

You aren't the only one to think that. I feel that the newer arcs are... less inspired. They may have added some surprises and new things, but they haven't had as much impact as past novelties.

That's how I feel, too. I think it has more to do with the "same thing, different group" feeling I get from the newer arcs. I'll admit that the newer arcs definitely have some aspects in which they are better than the older arcs, but other than that, I feel like the anime's been dragged on far too long. I like the newer arcs in different ways, but I think that the anime itself is losing its appeal over time. Whether that has to do with the lack of change in areas people feel are vital, change in areas that people don't like, different tastes people have, or frustration that the show hasn't changed for the better to them, I cannot really say.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah. They can both create a good story and promote the games. I mean, just the fact that Pokemon are appearing is an advertisement per se.



You aren't the only one to think that. I feel that the newer arcs are... less inspired. They may have added some surprises and new things, but they haven't had as much impact as past novelties.

The problem is the anime has gone on 5 generations with the same plot of Ash collecting 8 badges every saga. Which is probably the reason it feels more repetitive now because we've seen the same thing for 5 series in a row.

The only thing that really makes each saga different is whoever Ash's travel companions are, the Pokemon on the group at the time, and the rivals of each series. Other than some of the unique fillers or villains, its been the same formula since day 1.

[p96822]

I think that the Arbotank from Tank alot is the second stongest meki that Team Rocket had