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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama View Post
    I smell a boar coming along. But, I do wonder what's the matter.
    I wish, *sighs*.....

    Maybe he's sad after Charizard pwned him or feels replaced since Ash brought him back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    I wish, *sighs*.....

    Maybe he's sad after Charizard pwned him or feels replaced since Ash brought him back.
    Hm, that might be it. As a Tepig, he was a very emotional Pokemon. Wonder if that carried on through evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama View Post
    Hm, that might be it. As a Tepig, he was a very emotional Pokemon. Wonder if that carried on through evolution.
    Looks like it.....he looks so damn adorable right there.

    Take notes Mijumaru!! This is how you look naturally cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    His loss to Magnezone (from what I've saw of the pictures, I haven't seen the episode), really was devastating. Wow. As if his two wins in the league were absolutely nothing.
    He didn't really lose to Magnezone, Dent screwed up and explosed his Bullet Seed on Magnezone attack and Pignite got hit with both attacks and got koed but yeah I think this is Pignite depreseed for being koed or Satoshi decides to train him after the loss and he gets beaten by Charizard and gets depressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    He didn't really lose to Magnezone, Dent screwed up and explosed his Bullet Seed on Magnezone attack and Pignite got hit with both attacks and got koed but yeah I think this is Pignite depreseed for being koed or Satoshi decides to train him after the loss and he gets beaten by Charizard and gets depressed.
    Well, both Bullet Seed and Magnet Bomb are attacks that Pignite should be able to take like a champ. So I understand why he is depressed. I think this may be before his lost to Charizard. Ash will offer Pignite to train and choose Charizard as his training partner.

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    You should feel bad when you're supposed to avoid a Shadow Ball when you're a Normal-type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    You should feel bad when you're supposed to avoid a Shadow Ball when you're a Normal-type.
    Um...what?? What does Unfezant have to do with anything??
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Um...what?? What does Unfezant have to do with anything??
    Pignite got KOed by two moves he should TOTALLY be strong against. I mentioned how a Ghost-type move also does the unthinkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    Pignite got KOed by two moves he should TOTALLY be strong against. I mentioned how a Ghost-type move also does the unthinkable.
    Um then you should of mentioned Pignite lol.

    Also he was taken by surprise(I'm guessing, haven't seen it yet).
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    Man up Pignite. Everybody loses a battle.

    Do we really need a subplot for the episode to be about a Pokemon depressed after losing 1 battle recently?

    I'm glad I'll miss this episode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by playerking View Post
    Man up Pignite. Everybody loses a battle.

    Do we really need a subplot for the episode to be about a Pokemon depressed after losing 1 battle recently?

    I'm glad I'll miss this episode.
    Pft, if this was Mijumaru you would be eating it up.
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    Seriously... one of the strongest members of the Unova team and it still can't take a lost. You don't see Oshawott or Snivy getting all upset that they more or less suck in battle now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Seriously... one of the strongest members of the Unova team and it still can't take a lost. You don't see Oshawott or Snivy getting all upset that they more or less suck in battle now
    Ah come on, he just got raped by ****ing Charizard lol. Who wouldn't be upset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Seriously... one of the strongest members of the Unova team and it still can't take a lost. You don't see Oshawott or Snivy getting all upset that they more or less suck in battle now
    Joltik, we know by now that Pignite hates to disapoint Satoshi and he usually takes loss bad, thats part of his personality, why can't he be upset if he loses? Oshawott should be upset all the time actually...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Joltik, we know by now that Pignite hates to disapoint Satoshi and he usually takes loss bad, thats part of his personality, why can't he be upset if he loses? Oshawott should be upset all the time actually...
    Some Pokemon just handle defeat differently well anyway I just it's a good thing that Pignite still has that part of his personality of getting depress after losing a battle more development that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Pft, if this was Mijumaru you would be eating it up.
    Pfft, no I wouldn't.

    Hatred of the Pig...thing aside. Why would they make a subplot of an episode where a Pokemon gets depressed after losing 1 battle from the episode before?

    Sure Pignite has had depression problems after losing in the past, but it's been a while. Why bring that part of its personality back.

    Wasn't this settled in the episode it, you know, evolved and defeated it's former trainer's new Pokemon.

    If that sort of episode didn't happen where it faced its former trainer and seemingly got over it's depression, then I would actually like this subplot. Though since that other episode was or (in my opinion) should've been the point where it's depression, I couldn't care less for this plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playerking View Post
    Pfft, no I wouldn't.

    Hatred of the Pig...thing aside. Why would they make a subplot of an episode where a Pokemon gets depressed after losing 1 battle from the episode before?

    Sure Pignite has had depression problems after losing in the past, but it's been a while. Why bring that part of its personality back.

    Wasn't this settled in the episode it, you know, evolved and defeated it's former trainer's new Pokemon.

    If that sort of episode didn't happen where it faced its former trainer and seemingly got over it's depression, then I would actually like this subplot. Though since that other episode was or (in my opinion) should've been the point where it's depression, I couldn't care less for this plot.
    Again, he lost to his trainers strongest pokemon who happens to also be a fire type. It kind of hurts the pride a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Again, he lost to his trainers strongest pokemon who happens to also be a fire type. It kind of hurts the pride a little.
    Strongest, I don't think that has ever been officially stated though, at least not recently I think.

    And I think the depression came from losing to Magnezone. Sure losing 2 battles in a row would make more sense, but I thought Charizard battling with Pignite was just training, so that Pignite won't lose again and get depressed.

    I don't really see how training would help a mental issue that Pignite has, especially since training has never helped him out of it before, for good at least.

    Also, I thought the issue was already solved in the episode where he evolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playerking View Post
    Strongest, I don't think that has ever been officially stated though, at least not recently I think.

    And I think the depression came from losing to Magnezone. Sure losing 2 battles in a row would make more sense, but I thought Charizard battling with Pignite was just training, so that Pignite won't lose again and get depressed.

    I don't really see how training would help a mental issue that Pignite has, especially since training has never helped him out of it before, for good at least.

    Also, I thought the issue was already solved in the episode where he evolved.
    No, he just got over his old trainer, that was never about his confidence.

    Did you not see when Charizard Seismic Tosses him lol?? The look in his face should explain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Joltik, we know by now that Pignite hates to disapoint Satoshi and he usually takes loss bad, thats part of his personality, why can't he be upset if he loses? Oshawott should be upset all the time actually...
    And yet Oshawott still has a better win percentage than Pignite and doesn't get all emotional when he does lose. I'm not saying Oshawott is better than Pignite (even though I secretly do believe that), but it's interesting to note that a small, un-evolved Pokemon like Oshawott takes his losses in stride and doesn't obsess over them like our evolved friend Pignite does; Oshawott just moves on with his life. I think Pignite should learn to do the same because no Pokemon is invincible; he's bound to disappoint his trainer sometimes. That's just how it works, and it's nobody's fault to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    No, he just got over his old trainer, that was never about his confidence.

    Did you not see when Charizard Seismic Tosses him lol?? The look in his face should explain it.
    Yes it was.

    His old trainer abandoned him because he thought Tepig was too weak. That's why Tepig/Pignite has gotten depressed when he losses most of the time.

    I thought you got that? Plus, remember in that episode where Tepig was depressed at night time on the day before the battle, before Snivy snapped it out of him. Then during the battle Tepig was depressed again, even more than usual and he was never depressed DURING a battle previously, but instead afterwards.

    I thought defeating an Emboar, a Heatmor and overall his former trainer would've been the kick he needed to get out of his depression. Now, he's getting depressed again after 1 or 2 battles that don't seem like there even that important(to me).

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    Quote Originally Posted by playerking View Post
    Yes it was.

    His old trainer abandoned him because he thought Tepig was too weak. That's why Tepig/Pignite has gotten depressed when he losses most of the time.

    I thought you got that? Plus, remember in that episode where Tepig was depressed at night time on the day before the battle, before Snivy snapped it out of him. Then during the battle Tepig was depressed again, even more than usual and he was never depressed DURING a battle previously, but instead afterwards.

    I thought defeating an Emboar, a Heatmor and overall his former trainer would've been the kick he needed to get out of his depression. Now, he's getting depressed again after 1 or 2 battles that don't seem like there even that important(to me).
    Um....Tepig didn't know the reason till in the middle of the actual battle remember?? He was just scarred by his old trainer and was sad that he was abandoned and had to relive it.

    You never get over your hate of losing lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Um....Tepig didn't know the reason till in the middle of the actual battle remember?? He was just scarred by his old trainer and was sad that he was abandoned and had to relive it.

    You never get over your hate of losing lol.
    Whether or not he realised it or not, his depression during the battle with Shamus would've been the same depression after his losses from before when he was depressed after losing. Yes, he was sad during the battle probably because he was scared to face his old trainer and you said that he was scared to relive the feeling of abandonment and that's ties in with Tepig/Pignite being depressed after losing, because he wants to be good enough for Ash and he doesn't want to lose.

    It's simple, he was sad at the thought of losing and I think it should've been settled over 30-40 episodes ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NegaiFreak View Post
    Yep, its totally a subplot... :/

    Man, I wish Ash would get to do something more other than just training or at least battle a few Team Plasma Grunts again, although that would be pretty random out of nowhere lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by playerking View Post
    Whether or not he realised it or not, his depression during the battle with Shamus would've been the same depression after his losses from before when he was depressed after losing. Yes, he was sad during the battle probably because he was scared to face his old trainer and you said that he was scared to relive the feeling of abandonment and that's ties in with Tepig/Pignite being depressed after losing, because he wants to be good enough for Ash and he doesn't want to lose.

    It's simple, he was sad at the thought of losing and I think it should've been settled over 30-40 episodes ago.
    Lol no ones all happy about losing jeez. Let the poor guy be cute for once.
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