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    I guess we can chop off that Haxorus debut, then.

    Outside of the obvious stuff, I got no idea what's going on.
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    So, Goura's Ability is Solid Rock?

    Iris' Fraxure evolves into Haxorus. Its Ability is Mold Breaker?


        Spoiler:- Nothing to see here. Nothing at all.:
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    So what will happen with the rest of the matches? Everything will be off-screen?
    I'm gettin ready for the rest of the people to cry: Rushed!

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    I had a hunch they would link the Village of the Dragons to the Dragon Clan elder, and I'm glad they did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redchesus View Post
    I had a hunch they would link the Village of the Dragons to the Dragon Clan elder, and I'm glad they did!
    I like how they retconned his hat.



    And thus, the concept of normal dragons have been replaced by Pokemon dragons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolipiece View Post
    I like how they retconned his hat.



    And thus, the concept of normal dragons have been replaced by Pokemon dragons.
    And his assistant's weight seems to fluctuate a lot from one moment to the next, poor guy.

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    So we get Iris is Johto person (unlike Village of Dragons in anima in Unova, Village of Dragons of SP in Blackthorn City).

    This means that not only Unova, Kanto Johto Hoenn and Sinnoh also have other skin race (although we have Phoebe and Dahlia, but we do not know where they came from).

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    So what will happen with the rest of the matches? Everything will be off-screen?
    I'm gettin ready for the rest of the people to cry: Rushed!
    I don't think so, this is the Pokémon Fan chapter so maybe the rest of the matches will be on future Corocoro Ichiban chapters ?

    Anyway this seems like a great chapter ! Old dragon man from Johto is baaaaack ! I've been missing him ! Also Iris owns a Lapras and a Druddigon, this is pretty cool. I wonder why Drayden, Alder and everybody were in Johto back then ? Iris backstory seems cool... She could be a very good Dexholder you know XD ?

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    Just picked up both magazines.

    Pokemon Fan:
    The final battle of the League was between Black and Iris. As the pics depicted, Iris's Fraxure evolved into a Haxorus during its battle with Brav. The two then switched to Druddigon vs Tula. Black asked about Iris's reason for taking on the League (which Iris had this mockery blush saying she's flattered that Black is interested in her), and she revealed that she hailed from Blackthorn City, aspiring to be an expert in Dragons. She was quite full of herself, but could not really learn how to master her powers, which was why the Blackthorn Elder invited Drayden all the way over from Unova to take her under his wing. Iris was reluctant at first, but Drayden proved himself much stronger than her by using his Druddigon to defeat her Lapras. She claimed that being the Champion would be her goal, and thus, upon arrival in Unova, Drayden brought Iris to see Alder. The two men became Iris's mentors afterwards, and Iris was determined to conquer the League this time, because she wanted to get even with N for hurting the pride of Alder. At the end, Black's Carracosta managed to defeat Haxorus with an Ice Beam, but Black assured Iris that he would fulfill her determination, because he too, wanted to defeat N...

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    Cheren was seen fighting Petashi, and easily defeated his Deino with his Unfezant (male). However, Black noted that Cheren was unexpectedly cold towards his opponents, and didn't even smile upon winning. He wondered what is wrong with his childhood friend. Next up is the Hoodman vs Marlon, with Beheeyem vs male Jellicent. Jellicent seemed to have locked down Beheeyem's Energy Ball with its Curse Body, but Beheeyem retaliated with Shadow Ball and gained victory. Upon victory, the Hoodman mentioned that by observing and encountering powerful trainers at the League, he could learn a lot for his research. The next match was Iris vs Gray (the chapter wrote the italics Glay, and then said it meant the 'gray-colour'. Judging from PokeSP's frequent mis-spelling tendency, I believe it's meant to be Gray). Gray is depicted to be maniacal about cold things, and used a Cryogonal to trap Iris's Fraxure with an ice chain. However, Iris has learnt how to counter this by training with Brycen, and eventually defeated Cryogonal. Finally, Brycen arrived at the League, and believed that when the Gymleaders said they had 'no recollection' about their kidnapping, he believed that something must have tampered with their memory, which was something that the Pokemo Beheeyem could do. Seeing how the mysterious Hoodman incidentally owned this Pokemon, he recruited White's help in investigating upon it...

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    Appears to me that the Hoodman may simply be Colress with the 'research' thing and the fact that it may be linked to the Gymleaders' kidnapping. Colress did have a Beheeyem in the games, so we may have been hyping up too much about the Hoodman after all.



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    I'm perfectly fine with the hooded man being Colress. It was cool to see that they linked Iris back to Johto.
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    I have to say this is probably my fave version of Iris in gen 5 so far. It sounds like she had a cool little backstory. Good for Iris and her Haxorus. It's good she and Black what to destroy N. I can't wait to see N get his. It will be so wonderful. I have to say I love this version of N. I love loathing him. Looking forward to N's next appearance. I'm glad Brycen is recruiting White to help. I was afraid White really was just going to stay on the sidelines after all the training she's done to become a Pokemon Trainer. I want to see her work pay off in the Team Plasma/N showdown. And of course they have to save Skyla...and the other Gym Leaders too.
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    So no Sird and no Guile . WHERE THE FUN . :-D
    I want Iris win the battle . And White seriously need more screentime .
    Too bad the Hoodman is Colress . He's hot . But . . . I want sth bigger than that man .

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    Black won the league? I wonder how Iris will end up being the Champion for B2W2. Also, I can't wait until next month when we hopefully find out about Cheren's Snivy.

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    Originally posted by Coronis
    Just picked up both magazines.

    Pokemon Fan:
    The final battle of the League was between Black and Iris. As the pics depicted, Iris's Fraxure evolved into a Haxorus during its battle with Brav. The two then switched to Druddigon vs Tula. Black asked about Iris's reason for taking on the League (which Iris had this mockery blush saying she's flattered that Black is interested in her), and she revealed that she hailed from Blackthorn City, aspiring to be an expert in Dragons. She was quite full of herself, but could not really learn how to master her powers, which was why the Blackthorn Elder invited Drayden all the way over from Unova to take her under his wing. Iris was reluctant at first, but Drayden proved himself much stronger than her by using his Druddigon to defeat her Lapras. She claimed that being the Champion would be her goal, and thus, upon arrival in Unova, Drayden brought Iris to see Alder. The two men became Iris's mentors afterwards, and Iris was determined to conquer the League this time, because she wanted to get even with N for hurting the pride of Alder. At the end, Black's Carracosta managed to defeat Haxorus with an Ice Beam, but Black assured Iris that he would fulfill her determination, because he too, wanted to defeat N...

    Ichiban:
    Cheren was seen fighting Petashi, and easily defeated his Deino with his Unfezant (male). However, Black noted that Cheren was unexpectedly cold towards his opponents, and didn't even smile upon winning. He wondered what is wrong with his childhood friend. Next up is the Hoodman vs Marlon, with Beheeyem vs male Jellicent. Jellicent seemed to have locked down Beheeyem's Energy Ball with its Curse Body, but Beheeyem retaliated with Shadow Ball and gained victory. Upon victory, the Hoodman mentioned that by observing and encountering powerful trainers at the League, he could learn a lot for his research. The next match was Iris vs Gray (the chapter wrote the italics Glay, and then said it meant the 'gray-colour'. Judging from PokeSP's frequent mis-spelling tendency, I believe it's meant to be Gray). Gray is depicted to be maniacal about cold things, and used a Cryogonal to trap Iris's Fraxure with an ice chain. However, Iris has learnt how to counter this by training with Brycen, and eventually defeated Cryogonal. Finally, Brycen arrived at the League, and believed that when the Gymleaders said they had 'no recollection' about their kidnapping, he believed that something must have tampered with their memory, which was something that the Pokemo Beheeyem could do. Seeing how the mysterious Hoodman incidentally owned this Pokemon, he recruited White's help in investigating upon it...

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    Appears to me that the Hoodman may simply be Colress with the 'research' thing and the fact that it may be linked to the Gymleaders' kidnapping. Colress did have a Beheeyem in the games, so we may have been hyping up too much about the Hoodman after all.
    Hmm. So the Hoodman is only Colress and not Sird. That actually explains Beheeyem. Looks like the fans (including me) who are expecting for Sird to return as a Hoodman became false.

    Wait, Iris from Blackthorn in Gen II? That makes no sense! For playing Gen 2, I don't remember seeing Iris in GSC and HGSS. How come she didn't mentioned when we didn't see her in the manga book and in the game? Kusaka, stop messing up the chronological order!
    I do say however that Iris did advance for Black to let her go on. The fans are right.

    And lastly, Cheren not happy? Are we ganna have another Saskue or lose Cheren? He's supposed to be a regular teen that acts as a smart student, not become a terrified emo boy. But this is new: Gray. That means one thing, we will later get to see what Gray will look like since Gray was not made into a game but later as a character. I hope he has his appearance and important just like Emerald, Yellow, and Crystal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_the_knight View Post
    Hmm. So the Hoodman is only Colress and not Sird. That actually explains Beheeyem. Looks like the fans (including me) who are expecting for Sird to return as a Hoodman became false.

    Wait, Iris from Blackthorn in Gen II? That makes no sense! For playing Gen 2, I don't remember seeing Iris in GSC and HGSS. How come she didn't mentioned when we didn't see her in the manga book and in the game? Kusaka, stop messing up the chronological order!
    I do say however that Iris did advance for Black to let her go on. The fans are right.

    And lastly, Cheren not happy? Are we ganna have another Saskue or lose Cheren? He's supposed to be a regular teen that acts as a smart student, not become a terrified emo boy. But this is new: Gray. That means one thing, we will later get to see what Gray will look like since Gray was not made into a game but later as a character. I hope he has his appearance and important just like Emerald, Yellow, and Crystal.
    Just because Iris didn't appear in GSC or HGSS that doesn't mean it makes no sense. If BW is really set in the future, then Iris might not have even been born at the time of GSC. Ruby was from Johto but I don't remember seeing him in GSC either. Iris being from Blackthron just ties in Unova with other regions, that doesn't mean she had to be mentioned or seen in GSC, HGSS, or any Johto related stuff.

    Also Cheren not being happy doesn't make him Sasuke. If nothing else, it opens the potential of actually giving the guy a interesting story to look forward to on why he's acting so strange. Not everyone is going to act 100% like their game halves in Special.
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    Aaaaaah Black won against Iris!! Great!!^^
    I feared that he might lose. But now he can be the second Pokemon League winner, after Red!
    He could finally fulfill his dream *_* How will Black change after this? Without any dream he could follow? And what about Musha?
    This is so interesting! Not to mention Iris' past and the hood man-colress thing. And cheren of course. But sadly cherens opponent was just some filler opponent after all.
    But hey more screentime for white<3 That are some really amazing chapters, and the excitement just won't stop.

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    Guys, don't forget. Black still has to beat the Elite Four. God knows how many chapters that could take.

    Wait, there's still the battles with Marlon and Cheren, right?

    Guess that means this League still has one last Ichiban chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemonspecialgerman View Post
    Aaaaaah Black won against Iris!! Great!!^^
    I feared that he might lose. But now he can be the second Pokemon League winner, after Red!
    He could finally fulfill his dream *_* How will Black change after this? Without any dream he could follow? And what about Musha?
    This is so interesting! Not to mention Iris' past and the hood man-colress thing. And cheren of course. But sadly cherens opponent was just some filler opponent after all.
    But hey more screentime for white<3 That are some really amazing chapters, and the excitement just won't stop.
    Character development. That would be nice to see. Forgive me if I don't hold out any hope for that.

    What White is doing actually sounds interesting. It would be nice to see how that turns out next month.

    Iris holding a grudge is actually pretty good. It definitely makes her more interesting and unlocks some more potential for her character in the future. It would be nice to see her act upon this grudge if she ever comes across N.

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    Guys, don't forget. Black still has to beat the Elite Four. God knows how many chapters that could take.

    Wait, there's still the battles with Marlon and Cheren, right?

    Guess that means this League still has one last Ichiban chapter.
    Oh yeah the elite 4 right, I forgot.. :/ That will sure take some time.
    Come to think of it.. was Black vs. Iris the semi-final round? So Black has to battle cheren or hood-man in the final round?
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    Interesting! I like that Iris used to live in Blackthorn City. This clearly comes from Drayden's flashback in B2W2 games, where it is implied that Iris is not from Unova.

    I was expecting that the Ichiban chapter would be Black VS. Cheren. Well, next month it is then, along with Iris VS. Hood Man. That is, if they don't do anything unexpected and put them the other way around. We will have to go a little backwards in time, though, which is a little funny.

    I'm not surprised that the Hood Man wasn't anyone mindbreaking. But if he's Colress, then it's weird that he's taking part in Team Plasma's plans already and moreover, that Brycen and White are going to investigate him. Which itself isn't bad since White needs more screentime and this whole thing seems interesting, but what will be left for B2W2 if this keeps up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_the_knight View Post
    But this is new: Gray. That means one thing, we will later get to see what Gray will look like since Gray was not made into a game but later as a character. I hope he has his appearance and important just like Emerald, Yellow, and Crystal.
    Um, what? Gray is just Zinzolin in a disguise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Just picked up both magazines.

    Pokemon Fan:
    The final battle of the League was between Black and Iris. As the pics depicted, Iris's Fraxure evolved into a Haxorus during its battle with Brav. The two then switched to Druddigon vs Tula. Black asked about Iris's reason for taking on the League (which Iris had this mockery blush saying she's flattered that Black is interested in her), and she revealed that she hailed from Blackthorn City, aspiring to be an expert in Dragons. She was quite full of herself, but could not really learn how to master her powers, which was why the Blackthorn Elder invited Drayden all the way over from Unova to take her under his wing. Iris was reluctant at first, but Drayden proved himself much stronger than her by using his Druddigon to defeat her Lapras. She claimed that being the Champion would be her goal, and thus, upon arrival in Unova, Drayden brought Iris to see Alder. The two men became Iris's mentors afterwards, and Iris was determined to conquer the League this time, because she wanted to get even with N for hurting the pride of Alder. At the end, Black's Carracosta managed to defeat Haxorus with an Ice Beam, but Black assured Iris that he would fulfill her determination, because he too, wanted to defeat N...

    Ichiban:
    Cheren was seen fighting Petashi, and easily defeated his Deino with his Unfezant (male). However, Black noted that Cheren was unexpectedly cold towards his opponents, and didn't even smile upon winning. He wondered what is wrong with his childhood friend. Next up is the Hoodman vs Marlon, with Beheeyem vs male Jellicent. Jellicent seemed to have locked down Beheeyem's Energy Ball with its Curse Body, but Beheeyem retaliated with Shadow Ball and gained victory. Upon victory, the Hoodman mentioned that by observing and encountering powerful trainers at the League, he could learn a lot for his research. The next match was Iris vs Gray (the chapter wrote the italics Glay, and then said it meant the 'gray-colour'. Judging from PokeSP's frequent mis-spelling tendency, I believe it's meant to be Gray). Gray is depicted to be maniacal about cold things, and used a Cryogonal to trap Iris's Fraxure with an ice chain. However, Iris has learnt how to counter this by training with Brycen, and eventually defeated Cryogonal. Finally, Brycen arrived at the League, and believed that when the Gymleaders said they had 'no recollection' about their kidnapping, he believed that something must have tampered with their memory, which was something that the Pokemo Beheeyem could do. Seeing how the mysterious Hoodman incidentally owned this Pokemon, he recruited White's help in investigating upon it...

    ==========================

    Appears to me that the Hoodman may simply be Colress with the 'research' thing and the fact that it may be linked to the Gymleaders' kidnapping. Colress did have a Beheeyem in the games, so we may have been hyping up too much about the Hoodman after all.



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    Thanks a lot for the summary. I am starting to love Iris more and more! She's so awesome, I love her background story and her grudge against N.

    Good to know that White will be doing something useful. I hope they'll find the gymleaders soon and I wonder what happened to Cheren, has team Plasma done something to him?

    So Team plasma has 2 people from their team that are infiltrating in the Pokemon league.

    I can't wait for the next issue. Maybe Musha returns, because Black is fulfilling his dream now. What will he do after he wins the league and becomes champ? If he beats it of course.

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    I thought that thing had Sturdy, not Solid Rock.

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    Wait, Iris from Blackthorn in Gen II? That makes no sense! For playing Gen 2, I don't remember seeing Iris in GSC and HGSS. How come she didn't mentioned when we didn't see her in the manga book and in the game? Kusaka, stop messing up the chronological order!
    I do say however that Iris did advance for Black to let her go on. The fans are right.
    First of all, Just because you didn't see her in the GSC and HGSS chapters doesn't mean that she couldn't be from Johto. We only saw the parts of Blackthorn City that were relevant to the plot at hand. She could have been there the whole time for all we know. Unless Kusaka made a point to showcase every little nook and cranny of Blackthorn, we don't know for sure.

    Second, Kusaka is the writer (and therefore God) of the PokeSpe universe. When it comes to HIS story, HE decides the chronological order and what is and isn't canon.

    Seeing as you said "playing Gen 2", I think I have to restress this yet again: The games and PokeSpe are TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ENTITIES. What happens in one doesn't effect the other. Kusaka (or as I said, the PokeSpe God) can do whatever he wants to because this is his goddamn story!

    Appears to me that the Hoodman may simply be Colress with the 'research' thing and the fact that it may be linked to the Gymleaders' kidnapping. Colress did have a Beheeyem in the games, so we may have been hyping up too much about the Hoodman after all.
    Aw, nuts! I was looking forward to starting false rumors about the Hoodman being Professor Oak!

    In all, these two chapters seem to be nicely written. I think Kusaka's getting his groove back!
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    Hood Man is Colress? Ah shoot, so I guess there's no sign of Sird's defeat in the horizon after all (though I'm glad that Kusaka is keeping her out of modern day plots). Haha still though I had a feeling that we all would be surprised by something that isn't so surprising after all.

    Though I'm confused on one thing: why does Colress have to disguise himself like that? I'm guessing that he didn't reveal to the public that he was a Plasma member yet (in the games that doesn't come until the end of two years later) so it's not like he's a wanted man or anything like Zinzolin is. Maybe he's still somewhat famous for his research and he wanted to compete in the league without arousing attention? Ah I'm sure it'll be revealed in the future. I actually was kinda hoping that Hood Man was Sird after seeing that she wasn't in Volume 43 so that the writers can finish her off ASAP but now I'm kinda relieved that she isn't so that she could stay out of the Unova plot. She'll probably be mentioned or something by Mewtwo in his showcase of Psystrike.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamingflower View Post
    Thanks a lot for the summary. I am starting to love Iris more and more! She's so awesome, I love her background story and her grudge against N.

    Good to know that White will be doing something useful. I hope they'll find the gymleaders soon and I wonder what happened to Cheren, has team Plasma done something to him?

    So Team plasma has 2 people from their team that are infiltrating in the Pokemon league.

    I can't wait for the next issue. Maybe Musha returns, because Black is fulfilling his dream now. What will he do after he wins the league and becomes champ? If he beats it of course.
    Okay here's my prediction. Black defeats the Elite Four (and I'm guessing that the battles will seem rushed to everyone because each battle with each Elite Four member will be just a few panels long) and Black is about to be crowned as Champion when suddenly N's Castle springs up. There will be a big epic battle between the Plasma sages and the Gym Leaders in retaliation for kidnapping them (unless I'm mistaken, they're all back, or at least Clay is back, and they lost their memories thanks to Beheeyem) and Black and Reshiram battles N and Zekrom. Black wins and then Ghetsis with Kyurem strikes and Black/Reshiram and White/Zekrom has to stop the final menace. Oh and plus I'm predicting that Musha will go to Bianca. There's my two cents. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flintoff Cypress View Post
    Second, Kusaka is the writer (and therefore God) of the PokeSpe universe. When it comes to HIS story, HE decides the chronological order and what is and isn't canon.
    I'm sorry but I can't help but chuckle at the "god" part. I dunno why.

    If Black were to become the champion and stay the champion, I wonder if Iris's BW2 role would be succeeding Drayden as Gym Leader. Hypothetically speaking...
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    I'm sorry but I can't help but chuckle at the "god" part. I dunno why.
    That's "God" in context to PokeSpe, not the real world.

    Hood Man is Colress? Ah shoot, so I guess there's no sign of Sird's defeat in the horizon after all (though I'm glad that Kusaka is keeping her out of modern day plots). Haha still though I had a feeling that we all would be surprised by something that isn't so surprising after all.
    Don't fret! Maybe it will be revealed that she had a gender-swapping operation to evade Mewtwo and she's really Colress!

    If Black were to become the champion and stay the champion, I wonder if Iris's BW2 role would be succeeding Drayden as Gym Leader. Hypothetically speaking...
    That would be an interesting form of role-reversal. However, I think Black is going to have epiphany and realize that "winning something as contextually simple as the league isn't as important as long as my friends and family are safe" resulting in him happily conceding the championship to Iris.

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