Pokemon Adventures Timeline

[Xadhoom]

I got tired of not finding a PokeSpe timeline around, so I decided to make my own. How does this thing look?

The calendar years are strictly conjecture and used to show relativity between arcs.

EDIT: In case this gets deleted, making a back-up.

RBG Year: 1997. TimeSkip: 0 Years.
(The year the first volume was published. Makes sense to start there)


Red/Green/Blue: 11. Yellow: 09. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 08. Ruby: 07. Sapphire: 06. Emerald: 05. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 03. Black/White: 02.

Yellow Year: 1999. TimeSkip: 2 Years.

Red/Green/Blue: 13. Yellow: 11. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 10. Ruby: 09. Sapphire: 08. Emerald: 07. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 05. Black/White: 04.

GSC Year: 2000. TimeSkip: 1 Year.

Red/Green/Blue: 14. Yellow: 12. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 11. Ruby: 10. Sapphire: 09. Emerald: 08. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 06. Black/White: 05.

RS Year: 2001. TimeSkip: 1 Year.

Red/Green/Blue: 15. Yellow: 13. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 12. Ruby: 11. Sapphire: 10. Emerald: 09. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 07. Black/White: 06.

FRLG Year: 2002. TimeSkip: 6 Months.

Red/Green/Blue: 16. Yellow: 14. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 13. Ruby: 11. Sapphire: 11 Emerald: 11. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 07. Black/White: 06.

Emerald Year: 2002. TimeSkip: 2 Months.

Red/Green: 16. Blue: 17. Yellow: 14. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 13. Ruby: 12. Sapphire/Emerald: 11. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 08. Black/White: 07.

HGSS Year: 2005. TimeSkip: 3 Years.

Red/Green: 19. Blue: 20. Yellow: 18. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 16. Ruby: 15. Sapphire/Emerald: 14. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 11. Black/White: 10.

DPP Year: 2008. TimeSkip: 1 Year.

Red/Green: 20. Blue: 21. Yellow: 19. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 17. Ruby: 16. Sapphire/Emerald: 15. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 12. Black/White: 11.

BW Year: 2011. Timeskip: 3 Years.

Red/Green: 23. Blue: 24. Yellow: 22: Gold/Silver/Crystal: 20. Ruby: 19. Sapphire/Emerald: 18. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 15. Black/White: 14.

BW2 Year: 2013. Timeskip: Going by the games: 2 Years.

Red/Green: 25. Blue: 26. Yellow: 24. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 22. Ruby: 21. Sapphire/Emerald: 20. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 17. Black/White: 16.

XY Year: 2017. Timeskip: 4 Years.

Red/Green: 29. Blue: 30. Yellow: 28. Gold/Silver/Crystal: 26. Ruby: 25. Sapphire/Emerald: 24. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: 21. Black/White: 20.

[e9310103838]

I got tired of not finding a PokeSpe timeline around, so I decided to make my own. How does this thing look?

RBG Year: 1997. TimeSkip: None. RGB: 11. Y: 9. GSC: 8. R: 7. S/E: 6. DPP: 2. BW: 2. (The year the first volume was published. Makes sense to start there)

Yellow Year: 1999. TimeSkip: 2 Years. RGB: 13. Y: 11. GSC: 10. R: 9. S/E: 8. DPP: 4. BW: 4.

GSC Year: 2000. TimeSkip: 1 Year. RGB: 14. Y: 12. GSC: 11. R: 10. S/E: 9. DPP: 5. BW: 5.

RS Year: 2001. TimeSkip: 1 Year. RGB: 15. Y: 13. GSC: 12. R: 11. S/E: 10. DPP: 6. BW: 6

FRLG Year: 2002. TimeSkip: 1 Year. RGB: 16. Y: 14. GSC: 13. R: 12. S/E: 11. DPP: 7. BW: 7.

Emerald Year: 2002. TimeSkip: ½ Year. RG: 16. B: 17. Y: 15. GSC: 14. R: 12. S/E: 12. DPP: 8. BW: 8.

HGSS Year: 2004. TimeSkip: 2 Years. RG: 18. B: 19. Y: 17. GSC: 16. R: 15. S/E: 14. DPP: 10. BW: 10. (Did anyone actually refer to the Battle frontier incident as '3 years ago', or anything to that effect?)

DPP Year: 2006. TimeSkip: 2 Years. RG: 20. B: 21. Y: 19. GSC: 18. R: 17. S/E: 16. DPP: 12. BW: 12. (2006 fits with Dia having a Wii.)

BW Year: 2008. Timeskip: 2 Years. RG: 22. B: 23. Y: 21: GSC: 20. R: 19. S/E: 18. DPP: 14. BW: 14. (Unova is basically the Pokemon world USA, and 2008 was an important year there.)

Emerald is 8 year-old, almost full 9 year-old in GSC.

FRLG after RS ½ year (6-7 months).

Emerald after FRLG 2 months. Yellow still is 14 year-old, Ruby is full 12 year-old, Sapphire is 11 year-old (almost full 12), Emerald is 11 year-old.

Gold & Silver are 13 year-old (and Gold almost full 14), but I am not sure Crys's age. Maybe she is 13 year-old (than Gold younger) or 14 year-old (than Gold older). And they are the same year in GSC and HGSS.

HGSS after Emerald 3 years, Ruby is 14 or 15 year-old, Sapphire is 14 year-old (due Gold's birthday), Emerald is 13 or 14 year-old.

So Crys's age will be a key. If we figure out it, we will be able to more clearly all the exact age and the time point of GSC (and HGSS).

The time point of DP is unknown, but we know it after HGSS a few years later, and Pt after DP 2 weeks.

Dia & Pearl are 12 year-old (so Dia is the oldest), Platinum is 11→12 year-old in DP.

And the time point of BW is also unknown, and we also know it after Pt a few years later.

Black is 14 year-old in BW. Although White did not mention her age, I think her age is also 14 year-old.

[Xadhoom]

Emerald is 8 year-old, almost full 9 year-old in GSC.

FRLG after RS ½ year (6-7 months).

I thought it was a full year. Oh well, the more mistakes people point out, the more I can correct.

Emerald after FRLG 2 months. Yellow still is 14 year-old, Ruby is full 12 year-old, Sapphire is 11 year-old (almost full 12), Emerald is 11 year-old.

How did I forget about that?!

Gold & Silver are 13 year-old (and Gold almost full 14), but I am not sure Crys's age. Maybe she is 13 year-old (than Gold younger) or 14 year-old (than Gold older). And they are the same year in GSC and HGSS.

I'm assuming 13.

HGSS after Emerald 3 years, Ruby is 14 or 15 year-old, Sapphire is 14 year-old (due Gold's birthday), Emerald is 13 or 14 year-old.

Was that ever actually concretely stated?

So Crys's age will be a key. If we figure out it, we will be able to more clearly all the exact age and the time point of GSC (and HGSS).

She was 11 during GSC, and 16 during HGSS.

The time point of DP is unknown, but we know it after HGSS a few years later, and Pt after DP 2 weeks.

2 years, most likely; the series has never done bigger TimeSkips than that.

Dia & Pearl are 12 year-old (so Dia is the oldest), Platinum is 11→12 year-old in DP.

Again, I assume them all to be 12.

And the time point of BW is also unknown, and we also know it after Pt a few years later.

Also likely to be 2 years.

Black is 14 year-old in BW. Although White did not mention her age, I think her age is also 14 year-old.

Most likely; she looks no older than Black.

[Flintoff Cypress]

YES. I've been wanting to discuss this for a LONG time. I had started timeline notes a long time ago, but lost them due to PC problems and never had the time to redo and complete the work. You two have pretty much hit dead-on with what I had completed.

I think we can probably get this refined down to months (we know RS right down to the day, and I think we have a good idea of exactly where Emerald and DP take place at) and probably even further if we really put our noggins together and look through the lines.

(Maybe this can be stickied for future reference?)

EDIT: There's a lot of things that we need citations to clarify the facts. Maybe if someone can give us a volume number where these facts are stated, that would be great.

[Xadhoom]

YES. I've been wanting to discuss this for a LONG time. I had started timeline notes a long time ago, but lost them due to PC problems and never had the time to redo and complete the work. You two have pretty much hit dead-on with what I had completed.

You arrived at the same ages and years as I did?

I think we can probably get this refined down to months (we know RS right down to the day, and I think we have a good idea of exactly where Emerald and DP take place at) and probably even further if we really put our noggins together and look through the lines.

That would be A possible ghost-rider. And a happy one too.

(Maybe this can be stickied for future reference?)

That would be another.

EDIT: There's a lot of things that we need citations to clarify the facts. Maybe if someone can give us a volume number where these facts are stated, that would be great.

Actually, the calender years are speculation on my part. Beyond that, established fact all the way.

[Flintoff Cypress]

You arrived at the same ages and years as I did?

Actually, the calender years are speculation on my part. Beyond that, established fact all the way.

For the most part, yes. While I wasn't able to nail down 100% where some arcs took place at, it was easy to narrow down to a half-year period and from there use logical deduction.

For example, here's how I had my timeline set up:

1997 (My prototype didn't have a specific year but rather started with the RGB arc as "Year 1". I like your method better.

June 1 - Blue (Girl) turns 11
August 8 - Red turns 11
November 22 - Green (Boy) turns 11
(For simplicity's sake, let's leave Yellow out of this for now.)

We know that all three of them are 11 during RGB and we know (from the Emerald arc) that Blue is the oldest of the group. Therefore, her birthday has to come first. The interesting thing is that this makes Red older than Green (wasn't expecting that!).

Because all three of them are 11 during RGB, we know that the arc can only take place between November 22, 1997 and June 1, 1998. Sadly, this leaves a wide space of six to seven months. That's as close as we can definitely place the RGB arc.

    Spoiler:- This is my theory, not proven fact.:

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Now we're going to get a little more complicated and take a step into conjecture territory. We need to assume that despite all of this multidimensional hoopla Sinnoh and Johto (and therefore Kanto) are relatively close enough in Kusaka's Pokearth to share similar seasonal patterns (with all of them sharing real-life Japan's climate of warm in the spring/summer with things cooling off in the fall and winter). DPPt has proven that later in the year is indeed colder in that area of the Pokearth. While the specific season is not clear during RGB, it's assumed to be warm enough for people to be casually outside and that would likely eliminate any of 1997 and possibly the first bit of 1998 as likely candidates for the RGB arc to take place. Since we can't go past June 1, we might be able to (but cannot safely) anchor down RGB as taking place in Spring 1998.
 

(This reminds me of the dialog scene from the movie Buffalo Hearts.)

[lolipiece]

...2008? What on earth ever gave a year for the chapters?

[Xadhoom]

...2008? What on earth ever gave a year for the chapters?

Nothing, sir. It's called guesswork and conjecture. It's also called pulling random guesses from a place I'll rather not mention, and see how they fit.

[e9310103838]

    Spoiler:- This is my theory, not proven fact.:

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Now we're going to get a little more complicated and take a step into conjecture territory. We need to assume that despite all of this multidimensional hoopla Sinnoh and Johto (and therefore Kanto) are relatively close enough in Kusaka's Pokearth to share similar seasonal patterns (with all of them sharing real-life Japan's climate of warm in the spring/summer with things cooling off in the fall and winter). DPPt has proven that later in the year is indeed colder in that area of the Pokearth. While the specific season is not clear during RGB, it's assumed to be warm enough for people to be casually outside and that would likely eliminate any of 1997 and possibly the first bit of 1998 as likely candidates for the RGB arc to take place. Since we can't go past June 1, we might be able to (but cannot safely) anchor down RGB as taking place in Spring 1998.
 

(This reminds me of the dialog scene from the movie Buffalo Hearts.)

In fact, I must say season for PMSP doesn't really influence.

We can see Gold & Yellow wearing a long-sleeved in Summer,

Aaron wearing a sleeveless garments when others wearing the winter clothes,

and Black wearing a long-sleeved with jacket, White wearing a sleeveless garments with sleeveless jacket in the same seasons lol

Although season actually exist in PMSP XD

[Xadhoom]

In fact, I must say season for PMSP doesn't really influence.

We can see Gold & Yellow wearing a long-sleeved in Summer,

Aaron wearing a sleeveless garments when others wearing the winter clothes,

and Black wearing a long-sleeved with jacket, White wearing a sleeveless garments with sleeveless jacket in the same seasons lol

Although season actually exist in PMSP XD

So? those summers could be temperate enough, that wearing long-sleeved clothes wouldn't be uncomfortable.

EDIT: This actually got stickied. Gotta admit, the admins work fast here.

[Flintoff Cypress]

In fact, I must say season for PMSP doesn't really influence.

Yeah, that's why I only have the DPPt Trio getting their winter coats as a hint to the climate.

...2008? What on earth ever gave a year for the chapters?

Hmm... I was worried that this might become a problem. Maybe there should be a disclaimer stating that the numeric year is strictly conjecture and used to show relativity between arcs?

[e9310103838]

Was that ever actually concretely stated?

I looked at,

Carr said that three years ago he wanted to usurp the position of Team Rocket leader.

[Xadhoom]

I looked at,

Carr said that three years ago he wanted to usurp the position of Team Rocket leader.

Okay then.

[Macromind101]

I thought the timeskip between HGSS and DPPt was three years because Dia mentioned seeing the Red Gyarados when he was four which places HGSS eight years after GSC which would then be three years after Emerald. But, I find it hard to believe that the time difference was THAT big. But then again, that's the only piece of evidence Kusaka left us with. :P

[e9310103838]

I thought the timeskip between HGSS and DPPt was three years because Dia mentioned seeing the Red Gyarados when he was four which places HGSS eight years after GSC which would then be three years after Emerald. But, I find it hard to believe that the time difference was THAT big. But then again, that's the only piece of evidence Kusaka left us with. :P

And we saw Palmer still in here with his son, so Palmer certainly shortly after take office Tower Tycoon.

Then again, if DP is three years after HGSS, Sird left Team Galactic nearly six years!? This is quite a long time.

In fact, it mentioned Professor Rowan left Sinnoh four years when serialized.

Therefore, I prefer to believe that DP is only one year after HGSS. (Of course, the final decision in Kusaka's hands XD)

By the way, DP Adventures also mentioned Professor Rowan left Sinnoh four years, so I suspect that this is actually a setting of game.

[Xadhoom]

And we saw Palmer still in here with his son, so Palmer certainly shortly after take office Tower Tycoon.

Then again, if DP is three years after HGSS, Sird left Team Galactic nearly six years!? This is quite a long time.

In fact, it mentioned Professor Rowan left Sinnoh four years when serialized.

Therefore, I prefer to believe that DP is only one year after HGSS. (Of course, the final decision in Kusaka's hands XD)

By the way, DP Adventures also mentioned Professor Rowan left Sinnoh four years, so I suspect that this is actually a setting of game.

If multiple sources claim this, then it's likely true, especially considering that the DPP games do not deny or comfirm it. Or possibly they do. My memories of those games are hazy. As are my memories of yesterday's lunch.

[Flintoff Cypress]

In fact, it mentioned Professor Rowan left Sinnoh four years when serialized.

That really poses the question of why Kusaka changed it up. The magazine version of PokeSpe actually corroborated with the games' mythos and in the long run it still makes perfect sense. Refresh my memory, was this stated early or late the DP arc? Because if it was later, then he might have changed it in the volume release so that people wouldn't easily figure out that HGSS came first so he could surprise them at the end of that arc.

[lolipiece]

That really poses the question of why Kusaka changed it up. The magazine version of PokeSpe actually corroborated with the games' mythos and in the long run it still makes perfect sense. Refresh my memory, was this stated early or late the DP arc? Because if it was later, then he might have changed it in the volume release so that people wouldn't easily figure out that HGSS came first so he could surprise them at the end of that arc.

It was mentioned in the first DP chapter.

[Macromind101]

And we saw Palmer still in here with his son, so Palmer certainly shortly after take office Tower Tycoon.

Then again, if DP is three years after HGSS, Sird left Team Galactic nearly six years!? This is quite a long time.

In fact, it mentioned Professor Rowan left Sinnoh four years when serialized.

Therefore, I prefer to believe that DP is only one year after HGSS. (Of course, the final decision in Kusaka's hands XD)

By the way, DP Adventures also mentioned Professor Rowan left Sinnoh four years, so I suspect that this is actually a setting of game.

Yes that's why I really want to think (and for it to be true) that DP doesn't take place too many years after HGSS (none if possible). Mewtwo's chase of Sird started after FRLG. The chase went on until sometime around the end of DP when Sird managed to get to Spear Pillar to lose Mewtwo. Three years is enough as it is but SIX years??? Sure feel sorry for that Starmie, having to carry its trainer on its back continuously and avoiding psychic blasts from Mewtwo for six straight years. Does Sird not need to eat or sleep??? There's also the fact that Mewtwo's purpose for chasing Sird was to find a way to unpetrify its friends. However, the Kanto Dexholders and Silver were unpetrifyed three months after they were petrified. That means that Mewtwo was chasing Sird for absolutely no purpose for five years and nine months. That's kinda sad for it. That's why I really want to believe that DP and HGSS are placed at approximately the same time. And when I read Coronis's summaries, it looked like Johanna called for Dia seconds after the final scene of HGSS closed out. :/

[Flintoff Cypress]

It was mentioned in the first DP chapter.

Okay, so this puts the "changed to keep the HGSS/DP relation secret" theory as being quite plausible. The HGSS games were announced in May of 2009 for a September release (in Japan), given the development cycle of the games there was plenty of time for Kusaka to be aware of the game's existence as he was putting together Volume 30 (which was released in Dec 2008).

Unless otherwise stated, I don't see why we can't concur with the magazine run in saying that DPPt one year ahead of HGSS...

And when I read Coronis's summaries, it looked like Johanna called for Dia seconds after the final scene of HGSS closed out. :/

...Okay, I can see where the "one-year" theory can be a problem. I'll do a little thinking and revisit this later.

[Macromind101]

Okay, so this puts the "changed to keep the HGSS/DP relation secret" theory as being quite plausible. The HGSS games were announced in May of 2009 for a September release (in Japan), given the development cycle of the games there was plenty of time for Kusaka to be aware of the game's existence as he was putting together Volume 30 (which was released in Dec 2008).

Unless otherwise stated, I don't see why we can't concur with the magazine run in saying that DPPt one year ahead of HGSS...



...Okay, I can see where the "one-year" theory can be a problem. I'll do a little thinking and revisit this later.

Lol yeah I don't think "time passes" translates as three years. Maybe a few weeks/months, one year at the max, but definitely not three years.

And huh I never knew about the one-year passing hint on the magazines. One year is definitely better than three years imo. I thought it was three years because someone pointed out that Dia/Pearl (forgot who it was) saw the Red Gyarados at the Lake of Rage when he was four eight years ago. But then again it's not like there's only one Red Gyarados in existence. Or it could also mean that the Red Gyarados was around for quite a while before Silver captured it and it wasn't among the masses of Magikarp being forced to evolve. And it was a part of a comedy so I'm not sure to what extent we can take that claim seriously.

[Flintoff Cypress]

Having not read Volume 43, I'm just going to paraphrase Coronis's summary for those who didn't read it:

13) Finally, with all that said, HGSS happens before the DPPt series. There's no definite time indication, but it says that 'Time has passed and the stage has shifted', which indicated it may even be years. Long ago, when DP was first serialized in the magazines, it mentioned about Rowan returning to Sinnoh after 4 years of absence (alluding to his visit to Oak in Kanto/Johto for the Pokedexes). This was changed to 'some time' in the manga, but it seems that this 4 year time line between Emerald and DP may be true afterall.

I'm going to concur with that. As I said, I think it's pretty safe to anchor DPPt as around one-year after HGSS.

Also, even without dialog talking about time passing, we cannot assume that just because we see Johanna looking for Dia at the end of HGSS that it means they immediately follow one another. Remember how at the end of Platinum they reference Gold (and as we now know, referencing a past event) to pass the story to that particular arc?

[Macromind101]

Okay wait I'm confused. How does Rowan returning to Sinnoh after four years indicate that the four years was the time difference between Emerald and DPPt? (Although I do like that theory, much better than the time difference being SIX years.) Was it ever mentioned in the Emerald chapter that Rowan visited Kanto/Johto for the Pokedexes? How do we know that the start of Rowan's visit was the same time as Emerald?

[Flintoff Cypress]

Oak sends a message to Rowan asking him to come to Kanto in the final pages of the Emerald arc. While it COULD be possible that a bit of time passed before hauled his old butt over there, it's assumed that he came over sooner than later.

[lolipiece]

Okay wait I'm confused. How does Rowan returning to Sinnoh after four years indicate that the four years was the time difference between Emerald and DPPt? (Although I do like that theory, much better than the time difference being SIX years.) Was it ever mentioned in the Emerald chapter that Rowan visited Kanto/Johto for the Pokedexes? How do we know that the start of Rowan's visit was the same time as Emerald?

Yes, it was the very last thing they said in it: a request for Rowan to come help with the Dexes.