It's good to know the animators remembered that this ep was abour charizard. Not misty,not brock, not the advanced duo. But charizard.
Good ep BTW
probably the only good one in all of BW2 to date.
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Friend Safari: (Fighting Type)
...staraptor and female!Unfezant would be beautiful.
I can't stop smiling at Iris's little mistake about charizard. Its just too funny. I think for the first time in my life, I want to pat Iris on the head and say "Its okay. ^^;;" cause she was freaking out. XD
I wanna understand what N said D:
Argh, the only thing that sucks is Charizard's move set. God dangit. That animation of charizard looked epic, but then I remembered it was slash and wing attack, and I got sad.
Give me things like Shadow claw at least. GOD. lol
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Such a sexy song. Urgh.
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as a long-time fan of the series, there's a part of me that definitely wants to nit-pick every little thing they changed about the flashback scenes (like Charmeleon's adorable little hand salute before evolving in "Attack of the Prehistoric Pokemon", which they now made into him just pointing at his head for no reason, and the fact that they cut down on Charmeleon's brief temper-tantrum before evolving, and so on). I don't speak Japanese, but it sounds like there was no explanation of how Charizard ended up at Oak's instead of the Valley, but that's also nit-picking, really. the animators/producers/etc aren't making this show to attract the 20-something-year-old fans who were watching Pokemon the in the late 90's, they're making it to attract new 6-10 year old's who will run out and beg their parents to buy every plushie and toy they make.
BUT there's another part of me that appreciates the realism of it, the fact that when a person describes his memories to his friends, he probably won't recount every little detail and every single word of dialogue exactly as it originally happened. overall, I appreciate the fanservice...bringing Charizard back at all, and dedicating (basically) an entire episode to telling his history with Ash. idk what it'll mean for fans whose first experience with the Pokemon anime is watching Best Wishes...but for me, overall, I appreciate it.
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Ha, just noticed Aerodactyls foot is coloured wrongly when its carrying Ash. Ive only seen the flashback, but it looks brilliant. Animations more fluid and the character movements arent so jerky.
Personally I think this was the best BW episode ever, those flashbacks, Charizard is back and that fluid animation make this episode a 8/10.
Of course it wasn't perfect, there were a lot of errors in the episode, like Ash's miscolored sleeve, Aerodactyl's orange leg, Pidgeot in the "Snow way out" flashback, and some others.
At least for me those errors didn't ruin me the episode, I enjoyed it a lot.
This was an amazing episode. Even though I understand and appreciate that the Charific Valley made Charizard the pokemon he is now, I too want it to be confirmed that he resides at Oak's now. Same with Squirtle.
Regarding his new moveset, even though I would accept Charizard back even at the cost of him having ember, I am surprised they didn't set him up to have something like:
Flamethrower: The basic move
Sky Drop: I belong to the "category" of Charizard's fans that want Seismic Toss to die, at some point. Maybe I should post this at the unpopular beliefs thread. It is a fighting type move (Machokes learn it...) that doesn't suit him at all and he obtained it at a point when there wasn't anything better to give him. Sky Drop can do the job just fine and grant him the same type attack bonus.
That would be, in my opinion, a fresh and modern moveset (to Unova standards). It seems the writers overthink things sometimes. Maybe they wanted to give him a moveset similar to Red's Charizard in GSC?
Oooooooooh, even Tracey and Damien got a cameo and a redesign here ...
So, what makes this the Worst Episode Ever?
As for me, the fact of knowing Scraggy got rotated makes the episode good enough, If that thing won´t evolve (Scrafty is cool, Scraggy isn´t) then let him rot in Juniper lab (-_-)
As always, awesome episode, Best Wishes, best season ever
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So now Ash can magically sent his pokemon to Oak from Unova?
There's a tyrant king with a reptile heart
And he's started a wave of crime now
From his ship high above he abducted my love
For the fourteenth or fifteenth time now
10/10 not bad i liked this episode its great but needs work im impressed good job
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I don't really have the time or patience to focus on nature's and IV'S, I just play with what I'm handed..
Guys seriously, if you listen close enough, you hear Oak say Liza during the phone call so he came from the valley.
This episode was literally perfect ALMOST 9/10....
I knew the writers would figure out some way so ruin it for me though ......
Bring my birdy back you bastards!!! Unfezant <3!!!
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All the old pokemon have animation errors.
Finally watched the episode, so I'll comment.
Just like its number said, this was without doubt the "jackpot episode". I had the feeling that it was going to be good, but I think that it surpassed my expectations.
I simply loved the Kanto Fair (so many Kanto Pokemon... they reminded my childhood, when I used to play Pokemon Red a lot) and I found Charmander really cute.
The flashbacks were simply amazing. The newest animation made to the classics some justice, even if there are some inconsistencies that made me raise an eyebrow. However, I didn't mind them too much. Oh, and I was surprised to see guys like Pidgeotto and Primeape in the flashbacks.
Hint for their future appearances? XD
I felt that the battle was a bit rushed. It was incredibly animated and the clash was amazing, however I would have loved if it lasted a bit longer. As expected, it ended up in a tie/unresolved, but I think it's ok that way. And I'm glad that they kept Charizard quite consistent in terms of power.
This episode deserves a 9/10 from me. There are some things that I didn't like much, but overall it was a great episode. Easily the best BW episode to date.
Last edited by Cresselia92; 7th March 2013 at 7:43 PM.