not saying he is not viable, just saying the posssition of bad boy dragon has been filled, mixed is done better by b, cb is done better by nite, dd is done better by nite and choice scarf is overated as moxie does nothing to make up for his now slow speed and makes him fragile. He is perfectly viable, just his role has been filled better by monsters with similar faults in their speed and typing but have something to compensate, which is mainly bulk.
I've always preferred to run Hydro Pump/Fire Blast (always either/or, as I love using him on weather teams), Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw (obvious STAB), and EQ/Stone Edge (depending on coverage needs).
Of course, I would use this guy on a Sun Team more, since his moves tend to lend by far the most coverage for them, instead of rain teams, which prefer more bulky attackers to advance the team towards victory. So, Fire Blast is that surprise move to net that first KO, making your life just a bit easier for whatever wall that wants to charge at you next. As for Speed, always a Jolly nature. With all those attack boosts, speed is better IMO...
Last edited by Cosmic Fury; 4th June 2013 at 5:24 AM.
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Applause for those of you who use CB Salsa.
DD is done excellently by Samba as the ability to immediately threaten and force a switch from or destroy the likes of Skarmory and fellow defensive Steels with FB to procure a DD or later sweep is sick. -w-
Plus when was he now made slower with a 101 base speed? And when has ScarfMox "done nothing" to up his speed? Mox isn't upping his speed it's the Scarf that does it. It's his ability to quickly weaken/destroy a team at most any point that makes him potent. When has bein able to do that whilst automatically gatherin Atk boosts along the way not made Santa find his niche among Dragons? :0
idk i just thimk mence is still very frightening with that premier scarfin action ›m‹
ScarfMoxieMence with a full set of hazards is arguably the most terrifying thing ever, bar SmashPassed Kyurem-B.
Also, I have a question. Skam asked a few days ago and everyone else completely ignored him. How many of you own Minecraft? I recently discovered this mod and I thought maybe I could host a non-dedicated server if enough people are interested. Or hell I could just make a PvP server and kill you all.
Last edited by Divine Retribution; 4th June 2013 at 12:58 PM.
i own a cracked version that we discovered hosts wifi. id be happy to play, though ill just troll you all.
by cracked i mean, free. i assume its the exact same as the full, noncracked version. its able to link up to other servers, so all youd need to do is go about creating a server
Last edited by Klaus™; 4th June 2013 at 1:51 PM.
Well, then, you can help me test if my port-forward worked correctly. It's been 2 years since I've done this.
IP is 192.168.1.100:25565, currently running nothing except Essentials, so you won't need anything to connect yet. Also currently hosting on a laptop, I'ma move it to my parents' computer later, it's a bit more powerful and should be capable of handling a server better without any lag. Maybe I'll pay to host later if I can find the money / be bothered anyways.
I tried to make one but my port-forward didn't work. I usually play the Super Craft Bros server. The IP is: 37.CBGA.ME
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EDIT: Also shutting this down for a while, don't bother joining yet. I'll send PMs to anyone who's interested when I'm done, just PM/VM me your Minecraft username so I can whitelist you (and maybe OP you if I like you enough).
Last edited by Divine Retribution; 4th June 2013 at 2:18 PM.
I'm such a sad person. Now I'm depressed.
So anyways is there space on the war team or not? You told me yes but TCR said maybe later, hinting that someone's getting the boot soon?
... Scarf Weavile is something I haven't seen since early Gen 4, Scarf Mamoswine is outsped unless it locks itself into Ice Shard (and if you're running Scarf generally you run Superpower > Ice Shard, Scarf Scizor is outsped...
So, um, no. All of those things carry priority, though, which can be a problem. So if anything non-Scarfed variants are more dangerous as they're more likely to carry priority. But priority outspeeds everything so that's a null point. All Scarf users are weak to priority.
All scarf users are weak to priority is kinda bull, because other than forcing out, something stuck on a move. The priority weakness it's self is unique to the individual. Keldeo laughs largely at scizor and mamaoswine and breloom has to be cautious as all keldeo's moves really hurt.
Salamence is frail and nowadays he is slow! Base 100 speed does not mean as much as it used to with the long list of faster threats with scarfs and priority users, of which slamence is vulnerable to, he isn't bulky he isn't fast, he is border line glass cannon these days. Salamence isn't a bad scarf user, but generally they are better users of the scarf out there for teams with less issues and thus requiring less support. Moxie don't mean much when you get stopped cold.
Last edited by Master Aqua; 4th June 2013 at 4:22 PM.
Am I the only relic here that still uses choice band scizor?
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Banded Scizor yes!!
And welcome new member! I'm pretty sure I've fought you on Showdown before, bananaking sounds familiar XD
"Whether Castform the Weather Pokemon can weather the weather is dependent on whether the weather that it's weathering is the proper weather for it to weather. Whether the opponent can weather the weather is also subject to whether the weather that it's weathering is the right weather to weather. Whether Castform can weather the opponent is once again dictated by the weather and whether that weather is the favorable weather for weathering. But most importantly, you should know whether there will be weather to weather rather than what weather they will be weathering and whether they can weather that weather."
- Smogon's Castform analysis
Mence is IMO the best scarfer that's a Dragon type in OU. Kyurem-B has even lower bulk and Moxie does help in dealing more damage to things like Heatran.
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no kyurem-b is much much much much much bulkier than mence
base 130 hp and 100/90 defences
For best scarfing dragon, i am a little meh on that, all dragons in ou have some serious issues, while bearing a scarf
Kyurem-b - priority, bp and mp + speed
lati@s- tyranitar, scizor and weavile
salamence- low speed and low bulk
garchomp - speed and bad stab choice to be locked into
dragonite and haxy - no bussiness running scarf
hydriegon- low speed