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    Question Help Needed for Platinum Run-Through!

    Right, so I'm starting my re-play-through of Platinum But I need some opinions for my team, this is what it is so far.. Note that this is just what I want the layout to be eventually, along the way of course, the move-set will be different.

    Infernape: (Adamant)
    Close Combat
    Flare Blitz
    Thunder Punch
    Swords Dance
    ~
    Togekiss: (Timid)
    Yawn
    Wish
    Endeavour
    Fly
    ~
    Roserade: (Hasty)
    Grasswhistle
    Synthesis
    Sludge Bomb
    Energy Ball/Petal Dance
    ~
    Froslass: (Mild)
    Destiny Bond >
    Crunch?
    Ice Beam
    Shadow Ball
    ~
    Gallade: (Adamant)
    Zen Headbutt
    Close Combat
    Hypnosis
    Dream Eater/Drain Punch
    ~
    Kingdra: (Lonely)
    Waterfall
    Outrage
    Yawn
    Dragon Dance

    ~
    Still not too sure about Kingdra, it's move-pool is horrible, it's either Kingdra, Snorlax or Rhyperior. (I think all 3 would be good for coverage, either that or Electivire)
    When I re-play a game or play a new game, I try to use pokemon I've never trained before :3 It's a fun way to re-play things!

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    Togekiss
    Modest/Calm/Timid Nature, Serene Grace ability
    ~Air Slash
    ~Aura Sphere
    ~Nasty Plot
    ~Flamethrower

    Wish and Endeavor don't match each other well, and Fly on a Timid Togekiss is a bad idea.



    Roserade
    Modest/Timid Nature
    ~Shadow Ball
    ~Giga Drain
    ~Sludge Bomb
    ~Weather Ball/Hidden Power [anything not Grass/Ghost/Steel/Poison]

    Don't bother with Synthesis in-game, you have access to potions.



    Froslass
    Modest/Timid Nature
    ~Shadow Ball
    ~Ice Beam
    ~Thunderbolt
    ~Destiny Bond/Hidden Power [anything not Ice/Ghost/Electric/Dark/Steel/Poison]

    You don't need Crunch, Ghost shares similar coverage with Dark.



    Gallade @ Scope Lens
    Adamant Nature
    ~Close Combat
    ~Psycho Cut
    ~Night Slash
    ~Stone Edge/Leaf Blade

    Dream Eater is a bad idea on an Adamant Gallade, and having only STAB moves is a bad idea as well. Dark + Fight has a wide coverage.

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    Infernape@Focus Sash
    -Swords Dance
    -Fire Punch
    -Thunderpunch
    -Close Combat

    No need for flare bits when you have a physical stat booster. Infernape isn't made to be mixed sweeper.
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    Right, well I thought the nature changed each time the egg hatched, not when you receive the egg..
    So Togepi is stuck with a naughty nature.
    Any suggestions for move-sets? I can probably just switch the moves around for their Physical Counterparts..

    Togekiss: (Naughty)
    (Black Belt)
    Double-Edge
    Drain Punch
    Yawn/Sweet Kiss
    Extreme Speed
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    With Naughty Nature.

    Togekiss@Life Orb
    -Shadow Ball
    -Fire Blast
    -Extreme Speed
    -Nasty Plot
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    Jaws, 104 / 104 Offenses are made for Mixed, or a Sweeper from either side of the spectrum.

    Alas, why ExtemeSpeed with Nasty Plot? That is pointless. Shine has already posted a nice NP set anyways which beats yours any day of the week.

    Kingdra can use Substitute instead of Yawn imo.
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    What about breeding for another Togepi?

    It's basically pointless to use a Naughty Togekiss due to a major lack of Attack stat (its base Attack is only 50, while its base SAtk is 120)

    and Naughty reduce SDef, one of its best stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aura Sensai View Post
    Jaws, 104 / 104 Offenses are made for Mixed, or a Sweeper from either side of the spectrum.

    Alas, why ExtemeSpeed with Nasty Plot? That is pointless. Shine has already posted a nice NP set anyways which beats yours any day of the week.

    Kingdra can use Substitute instead of Yawn imo.
    He has a wide move pool so a nasty plot set up was a suggestion.
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    Again, you prove to know nothing about the simplest of things. Nasty Plot dosen't boost ESpeed, so I fail to understand the point. Please elaborate.
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    Regardless it's Sp-a will still be higher, so I don't see why with one or two nasty plot's it couldn't still sweep. It opens up opportunities to use some physical moves, as long as they have semi-decent base power.. I could breed it, however it was a bit of a pain making it friendly enough to evolve. But those are my options..

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    Nasty Plot is one of the best moves for special attacking, due to the wide move pool and despite its stats it's a good setup for the special attacks given to him. I'm of course gonna take advantage of flamethrower when given the opportunity through stat boost.
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    Shine had previously posted a set that took better advantage of NP. ESpeed with NP is retarted, so why would you not use Air Slash?
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    You spelled the word "Retarded" wrong which is quite ironic :P. Anyways let the OP pick his sets I'm just putting my input out there to help him, not fight with you, if you want to correct me fine, but don't be downright stubborn about it.
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    ^ I'm not stubborn, you're the one being stubborn. You constantly post shitty sets and whenever I'm there to say you need to learn you headlessly continue posting shitty sets and go "hurr durr use extremespeed on togekiss". You never took a minute to listen, which is why I have to put it through your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aura Sensai View Post
    ^ I'm not stubborn, you're the one being stubborn. You constantly post shitty sets and whenever I'm there to say you need to learn you headlessly continue posting shitty sets and go "hurr durr use extremespeed on togekiss". You never took a minute to listen, which is why I have to put it through your head.
    I think the thread is about the OP trying to improve his team, if you would like to message me about your personal
    issues then you can, but this is not the time or place to be cursing out the OP's thread.
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    I am; I'm fixing your mistakes so the OP dosen't take your crappy advice.
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    Then calm down and don't curse. It was not very effective. (No pun intended)
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    I'll have to redirect you to another section if you don't like cursing, as this is the usual route when people don't listen. Also, I am being calm.
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    Read the rules
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    Includes the use of language that's racial, religious, rude, sexually explicit, insulting, threatening, abusive, hateful, ethnic, or just a general intent to annoy others.
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    Except most of the time the Mods here allow it, as they themselves know people who don't listen need to be told, regardless if it's bluntly.
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    Yeah listen to your curses and angry outbursts. Mods aren't bias I doubt that.
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    Well, this thread was successfully derailed -__-

    Enough arguing, back on topic please. As for cursing, just don't get out of hand.

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    Right, all the flaming aside ^ I still have an issue here..
    I will breed my Togetic and get a better nature, but I still need a move-set for it.
    It should include:
    ~Air Slash
    ~Aura Sphere/Psychic/Flamethrower/Shadow Ball (Use any of these for the 3rd or 4th move slots below)

    Not sure about the last two:

    ~Thunder Wave? Not sure if that would work, it would cripple things with it's speed though.
    ~Nasty Plot? That would leave it pretty limited with what it can and can't target, regardless of the Sp-a buffs it won't do much against some pokemon..

    ---
    Roserade, the move-set is fine, just not sure whether or not to keep leech seed, it is holding a wide lens (Accuracy boost) and that gives Grasswhistle a 68% Chance of hitting, but then I can't add on another status effect, which is why leech seed is useful, that and I could remove my Giga Drain for Energy Ball seeing as that would heal me..

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    NP won't leave it pretty limited, considering Fight + Flying already hits everything for at least neutral damage.

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    I'm fine, the chances of a Shedinja being sent out is.. Unlikely. The Moveset looks fine
    ~Nasty Plot
    ~Air Slash
    ~Aura Sphere
    ~Thunder Wave

    Off-Topic: You guys on this forum are so helpful! Thanks a bunch :3

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