Why are you the one always creating these threads pokemonsquard?
M14 is messed up, but it seems that the Zekrom movie was considered the true one seeing as it's the one to receive a manga adaption, though maybe they did make a manga version of White Hero as well (I wouldn't know)
I personally believe White is the intended real version of Movie 14 aswell for three reasons:
-The manga adapted White.
-In the title sequence of the Movie, it was given it's own unique theme whilst in Black it was the generic Movie theme (Potential hint? I'd like to think so).
-In the anime Ash is tied more to Zekrom especially now with N being tied to Reshiram. The Movie feels more fitting to follow the Zekrom team-up instead for Ash instead.
You mixed it upWhite Hero was the Japanese version that Ash got Reshiram...or maybe I mixing it up :S
But yet when I said Zekrom movie, I meant the one where Ash was the one to awaken it and was also the movie to get a manga adaption.
Pokemon Movie White is where Ash awakens Zekrom to team up with it and fight against Reshiram.
I personally don't think the movies are canon at all. I mean, I know it might be silly for me to think it's not but... I would think that in the actual anime episodes, they would have mentioned their movie adventures. (especially with the Rise of Darkrai. I felt a little disconnect)
*comes into this thread to give a reason why both versions of Movie 14 were canon*
... *backs out of this thread*Ash never uses Aura, he's simply mistaken as the 'aura guardian' by Spiritomb.
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Why should any movie be considered non-canon, unless it directly contradicts the anime? DO any of the movies directly contradict the anime? Where did the whole "some movies are non-canon" idea come from? Why not just decide that random episodes are non-canon if they are never referenced in other episodes? Does every episode need to reference every episode, series, and movie?
The only movie that has dubious canonicity is movie 14, but it is obviously a special case. Why should the others even be a question?
Movie 6 is proven canon through Movie 8 since Butler and Diane show up in the credits. Just throwin' it out there since it was overlooked.
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I personally believe all movies are canon (emphasis on movies; I don't count specials like the one about Mewtwo since it wasn't originally a movie).
It is beyond ridiculous to think they aren't canon.
What you're implying is that if any character appears in a movie who appears in the anime that it is automatically canon.
If that's you're logic, every movie is canon since Ash appears in them all.
1 - Movie 8 isn't 100% confirmed canon.
2 - Characters re-appearing especially in Butler and Diane's case doesn't mean anything. They appear farming or something in the credits. If Movie 6 is ever confirmed not to be canon (not saying it will), that means we'd have to assume Butler and Diane are simply a group of people and completely disregard their past. See what i'm saying? Characters appearing again especially for a short amount of time like they did means nothing.
Movie 16 will confirm whether Mewtwo Returns is canon or not.
Point of the matter is: The movie can be ignored for as far as Charizard is concerned. The movie is canon because Entei was recognized by the group in the Pineco-evolution episode. Without that recognition in the animé of the movie, it wouldn't be canon.
What you're saying is that because of Charizard returning, that this movie acknowledges that Charizard has been released prior. Just to make this 100% sure to you, this isn't making it canon. It's just an acknowledgement from movie to animé. If the animé acknowledges a movie, THEN IT'S CANON.
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I don't see the big fuss over canon/non-canon, the way I see the Pokemon movies is the same as say for Naruto or Bleach, or most other big name anime they are just like little side stories which may reference the anime but don't usually have an impact on it. Or like the Dragonball Z movies, they have varying degrees of canon and may actually be able to fit into the anime with few plotholes. But there doesn't appear to be a set value for Pokemon movie canon, you interpret what you want.
I see Pokemon Movies as Pokemon Movies. They are "canon" as in referenced within the show, but is its own "canon" per se. If you are confused, that's a good thing.
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