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    Well, we're starting to reach the homestretch in BW and Team Rocket are kinda middle road right now. I'm not simply sure what to make of them anymore for the time being with what info we have regarding the Da! season. They've been ping-ponging back and forth between demeanors for quite some time now. What are your thoughts?

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    I wish they could remain extremely competent and powerful villains who have their funny moments. I think OS is a good example of this. They were goofy but you could still take them seriously to a degree. I would also like the organization to continue to play a large role if they do stay for Generation 6.

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    I really want them to be like they were before episode N but right now it seems like they are slowly going back to their DP versions. I am still hoping that near the end of BW we get some grand finale with Giovanni and the TRio being serious and competent again, but from what we have seen from DA, nothing seems to indicate that.
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    I find it all kind of strange that Iris and Cilan are going back to Kanto even though it seems like they are leaving. Could it be that the writers were looking for a way to get Iris and Cilan to go near the location of TR headquarters for the finale?

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    Unless the writers thought that the Meloetta arc was the end of their operations featuring Zager and Giovanni. Right now it feels like they are creeping back to the old ways, if it wasnt for the seriousness of the N arc it probably would have happened a lot faster. We'll see what happens hopefully at least their current conflict with Plasma goes out on a high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venusaur Master View Post
    Unless the writers thought that the Meloetta arc was the end of their operations featuring Zager and Giovanni. Right now it feels like they are creeping back to the old ways, if it wasnt for the seriousness of the N arc it probably would have happened a lot faster. We'll see what happens hopefully at least their current conflict with Plasma goes out on a high.
    I think how they act in DA will determine how they act in Generation 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venusaur Master View Post
    Right now it feels like they are creeping back to the old ways, if it wasnt for the seriousness of the N arc it probably would have happened a lot faster. We'll see what happens hopefully at least their current conflict with Plasma goes out on a high.
    Yeah, I'm thinking this too. It seems like it's just Meowth though, let's see how the Plasma plot plays out before jumping the gun on things.

    I'm not sure what I'll do if we get DP-style Rockets or what my reaction will be.

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    Well at least they tried something different in BW and seems like it was either liked or hated pretty evenly.
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    I don't really like them too much either way, but I just want then to be either all one way or the other. I either want to see them be like AG , or all out how they were early on BW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doryuzu View Post
    Well, we're starting to reach the homestretch in BW and Team Rocket are kinda middle road right now. I'm not simply sure what to make of them anymore for the time being with what info we have regarding the Da! season. They've been ping-ponging back and forth between demeanors for quite some time now. What are your thoughts?
    They are turning in what they were pre BW, DA will be the final change and they are back into plot device for every episode in X and Y.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    They are turning in what they were pre BW, DA will be the final change and they are back into plot device for every episode in X and Y.
    What would be the point in the writers using TR as Pikachu fodder every episode in XY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doryuzu View Post
    What would be the point in the writers using TR as Pikachu fodder every episode in XY?
    Because it's so funny lol and they have so much personality!!!!!1111

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doryuzu View Post
    What would be the point in the writers using TR as Pikachu fodder every episode in XY?
    What was the point of doing it from Kanto to Sinnoh? being lazy and not actually making plots for episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    What was the point of doing it from Kanto to Sinnoh? being lazy and not actually making plots for episodes.
    but then this anime is known not to have a plot... something that most fans want.

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    It's weird. Do they blast off or do they use jetpacks?
    both as of now

    Do they still work under Zager and Giovanni, or are they doing this under their own accord? Ahh it's so confusing.
    Haven't seen Zegeru since OT and Sakaki was headed to Kanto. So I am not sure. So I'll joined the confused party.
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    I like TR but I can't understand what they're even doing in the show still I mean come on they keep switching their attitudes and it's hard to know what to expect from them. I wish they would go back to their old selfs instead of being bipolar like they are now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gothitelle K View Post
    but then this anime is known not to have a plot... something that most fans want.



    both as of now



    Haven't seen Zegeru since OT and Sakaki was headed to Kanto. So I am not sure. So I'll joined the confused party.
    Zegeru and Sakaki?? How come some people keep using japanese names to confuse other people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothitelle K View Post

    both as of now


    Haven't seen Zegeru since OT and Sakaki was headed to Kanto. So I am not sure. So I'll joined the confused party.
    I know, but I'm talking about how they're completely inconsistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothitelle K View Post
    but then this anime is known not to have a plot... something that most fans want.
    Try watching something like K-ON!! and then claim this doesn't have a plot.

    Zegeru
    Seriously?

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    ... and then I have every right to use any name I want.
    Yeah, and "Zegeru" isn't his name. If you stopped inventing your own translations in an attempt to be cute, people might take you more seriously.

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    I have to agree with Gothitelle: I had no problem with the way they were in AG and DP. I'm not begging for hate by admitting that; I'm a diehard TRio fan, and will love them always no matter what. The way they've been acting in Episode N is, as Cilan would probably say, a harmonious and tasteful blend of humor and seriousness. If you're going to make them more competent, you have to remember not to bleach out their personalities--and I'm not talking about making them robots; I'm talking about keeping in mind that these characters have certain personality traits that they just aren't the same without. So kudos to the writers for making this Rocket fan extremely pleased.
    So again I must ask: character development is a bad thing now? Because whether you like it or not they didn't become "different" characters as some so much want to believe.

    Would it be bad if Ash actually became a Pokemon Master, because one of his 'personality traits' is that he really wants to become one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    They are turning in what they were pre BW, DA will be the final change and they are back into plot device for every episode in X and Y.
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    Don't know... Rocket dan has been ping ponging like you said. I personally think they should just pick an angle and run with it. I think they changed their demeanor in Ep N a little because some fans didn't like the change from BW. Fine but then others are going to remember. Me, personally, I want them back to how they were in AG/DP but they need to just be consistent.

    If they come back in gen 6.... I'm not sure how they are going to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothitelle K View Post
    consistent.
    Which is something your opinion on TR in general are not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gothitelle K View Post
    Oh yeah I agree. In the first half they were ___________ but now they are a mix of both. Very inconsistent.
    You could say it. No need to put the blank there.

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    I know I complained about them being too serious and boring during most of BW, but I think their inconsistent personalities as of late are even worse. I mean at least they were predictable for a while and we all sort of knew how they'd act, but recently it's been really hard to understand their mindset. It's like the writers don't know how to handle the Team Rocket trio; they want to show that they're competent while also being funny, but it's not working. There's no balance, just inconsistent behavior. If they're not going to write Team Rocket out of the show, then what are they planning to do with them? Just revert them to their old selves completely and hope that no one questions the change?

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    It's weird. Do they blast off or do they use jetpacks? Do they still work under Zager and Giovanni, or are they doing this under their own accord? Ahh it's so confusing.

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    ... and then I have every right to use any name I want.
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    I wish they'd just go away...I'm sick of them.Same with Ash and Pikachu...

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    I hope there will be a Finale for TR after DA, like the final battle with Team Rocket before Ash heads to the XY region.
    I just Want Ash & Pikachu and his Two to Four New friends to be the only main characters and just have fun adventures without having TR ruin the fun in anime like they did in the past Four Sagas.
    Anybody got a feeling that BW seem to look like Team Rocket's Swansong. The writers must of knew it was time for TR to leave as well and they want it to go out with a bang.
    It would make also make the XY saga more fun to watch (Hopefully it's the spiritual successor of AG, I really want the writers to go back to Four Main Protagonists and have a new female trainer like May & Dawn)

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