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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    Funny, I don't recall DP TRio acting like rejected Dr. Suess characters in the JPN version. Guess the fan subs got that wrong... /sarcasm
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    100% faithful to the JPN . . . but that's not the case at all. Really, both dubs are very similar in many of their practices when you get down to it.
    For what it's worth, it was kind if funny. I'm thinking P&SG but eh. Technically Advent Children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    Anyways, has there ever been any CGi Anime (ala Jimmy Neutron, Reboot, what have you)
    The one that does come to mind is Appleseed (its '88 OVA was traditionally animated), despite its toon-cel shading. But otherwise, I think there have been a couple of CGI anime movies (not sure if I should count Final Fantasy: Spirits Within).
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    Cartoons are usually funnier and more diverse, but anime has WAY better story and graphics. Some anime are funny.

    This doesn't go for every one.

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    How about character designs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    Anyways, has there ever been any CGi Anime (ala Jimmy Neutron, Reboot, what have you) or ones with flash animation (ala MLP:FiM)? There seems to be more of those cartoons than with Anime.
    Only SD Gundam Force and the movie Appleseed come to mind. The earlier's a cute spin-off that's nothing to write home about and the later was okay in my opinion. Many do use CGi here and there such as that building. If there are two instances where I've seen it frequently used it would be in Keiichi Satou's Karas along with Tiger and Bunny. Both use it well saving the CGi for when the heroes are about to take on the villains. Although I personally don't mind it, as my experience as a fan of Japanese media, a lot of the fans despise it with a passion.

    As for flash animation, I can't recall but the beach episode of Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt parodied it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    How about character designs?
    What exactly about them? Like if they have different facial features? Moe tends to have the same facial features, but a lot of mature anime like Monster and Paranoia Agent have amazing character designs. Western cartoons, because they're pretty much not bound to any limits due to their nature, can exaggerate their characters any which way, and it'd be normal. Despicable Me also has that kind of style with their character designs, as do most other CGI movies.
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    I remember the Iron Man anime being pretty high quality in every aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breeder Drew View Post
    I remember the Iron Man anime being pretty high quality in every aspect.
    I don't know, I've heard it got mixedto bad reviews along with the other series. Considering the movie but still...

    I don't know, I like it when cartoons try at setting a tone found in foreign programming. It's so hard to get right and the country of origin always ends up shining through the cloak and you just can't help but roll your eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    Anyways, has there ever been any CGi Anime (ala Jimmy Neutron, Reboot, what have you)
    Tiger & Bunny uses quite a bit of CGI, though I think you'll find it's generally movies that are 100% CGI. Things like Vexille or Appleseed.
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    anime for me, cartoon graphic is too complex, also anime is cuter

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;15911614
    anime for me, cartoon graphic is too complex, also anime is cuter
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    For me, anime is better because I grew up with it. Sonic X, Beyblade, Yu-Gi-Oh! (Mainly GX and 5Ds), Digimon, as well as Pokémon were my childhood. Sure, I watched SpongeBob and other cartoons as well, but anime has always been my favourite since I watched Sonic X for the first time when I was on holiday. I don't know what it is, but anime is more appealing than the vast majority of cartoons; the drawing style is better and more detailed (have you seen the latest Cartoon Network shows; they look appalling), the characters are usually much more likeable, and I tend to like the stories much, much more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrosion View Post
    Cartoons are usually funnier and more diverse, but anime has WAY better story and graphics. Some anime are funny.

    This doesn't go for every one.
    Please explain how cartoons are more diverse, as it's been mentioned, mainstream cartoons and kids cartoons tend to just be comedy or action. If you're talking about character archetypes and the like, there are a lot of generic characters used in both western and eastern animation.
    Quote Originally Posted by ;15911614
    anime for me, cartoon graphic is too complex, also anime is cuter
    That's quite an interesting thing to say, I tend to think anime "graphic is too complex" because of the amount of detail, compare something like Another to Johnny test, or the powerpuff girls and I think you'll find Another the more detailed.

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    For me, anime is better because I grew up with it. Sonic X, Beyblade, Yu-Gi-Oh! (Mainly GX and 5Ds), Digimon, as well as Pokémon were my childhood. Sure, I watched SpongeBob and other cartoons as well, but anime has always been my favourite since I watched Sonic X for the first time when I was on holiday. I don't know what it is, but anime is more appealing than the vast majority of cartoons; the drawing style is better and more detailed (have you seen the latest Cartoon Network shows; they look appalling), the characters are usually much more likeable, and I tend to like the stories much, much more.
    Talk smack about adventure time, regular show, chowder and flapjack's art style, and I'll talk smack about you at your funeral.

    Joking aside, although I haven't seen many recent cartoon network shows as I haven't had the channel for around 2 years, if not more, I don't think the preciously mentioned shows have terrible art styles. Sure, anime are quite detailed, but fancy graphics aren't everything. I kinda see what you mean about characters being more likable. Although it's been years since I've seen any bayblades episodes, I remember that the characters got a lot of back story to them, and Kai was like the coolest dude ever, even his name was edgy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voicerocker View Post
    And personally, the "moe" genre of anime is extremely unimpressive to me and very boring with Madoka Magica being the exception.
    Mostly since it's also in the suspense/horror gerna too so that helps.

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    Fritz the Cat. It's X-rated for a reason.
    True though Western Animation has still ventured less into the realm of pornography.

    The whole "Animation is for kids" caused a lot of problem back when the likes of Golion and Dairugger XV were brought over from Japan. Surprising, Robotech got away with a lot of violence, death and even nudity at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    The whole "Animation is for kids" caused a lot of problem back when the likes of Golion and Dairugger XV were brought over from Japan. Surprising, Robotech got away with a lot of violence, death and even nudity at times.
    There are still people to this day who think animation is for kids, and it's never going to go away (preposterous as it may sound). Back when anime first came out here, it did raise a lot of questions. You hear stories all the time of parents picking up videos for their kids because it was drawn in a "cartoony" style, and then returning it to the store very angry because it turned out to be "porn". (Ninja Scroll is the common example, though the ones you listed weren't spared either.) Classic parenting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutie Pie View Post
    There are still people to this day who think animation is for kids, and it's never going to go away (preposterous as it may sound). Back when anime first came out here, it did raise a lot of questions. You hear stories all the time of parents picking up videos for their kids because it was drawn in a "cartoony" style, and then returning it to the store very angry because it turned out to be "porn". (Ninja Scroll is the common example, though the ones you listed weren't spared either.) Classic parenting.
    I'm going to reget it, but what's the 'plot' to Ninja Scroll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero of Ideals View Post
    I'm going to reget it, but what's the 'plot' to Ninja Scroll?
    I have no freakin' clue, I never saw the anime outside of Sage's Anime Abandon review, and I couldn't glean the plot from that even while he was discussing it. I just know that it's an adult anime that is amongst the list of anime from the boom in the mid-90s right alongside Ghost in the Shell and Akira, and is known for having impressive animation and visuals at the time. The TV Tropes page will describe it better than I can.
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    Anime.

    Plots in anime are better than in plain old cartoons. They...the cartoons...well, have no plot. I don't care what people say. They are not the same thing.
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    I prefer anime because I grew up with it. I find anime easier to relate to (well I'm Asian, so yeah) and basically the country which I grew up with was obsessed with anime. Half of the time in the kid's channel it was showing anime. So yes, I prefer anime over cartoons.

    Anime tend to have better plots and story than cartoons. Yeah, Cartoons are usually funnier, but it can get old after a while. And there are really good tear-jerking animes too.

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    Western animation is more geared towards anthropomorphics and children.

    Japanese animation is more well-rounded with a diversity of different series and I grew up with various anime and manga series when I was a kid. So Anime it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palamon View Post
    Anime.

    Plots in anime are better than in plain old cartoons. They...the cartoons...well, have no plot. I don't care what people say. They are not the same thing.
    Oh wow, not only was your post annoying to read because of the silly colouring, but also because of the amount of ignorance you portrayed, good job, well done, 11/10.

    Yeah, ok, cartoons do have a plot, sure there are a lot of episodes that are just linear, one of storys, but that doesn't mean to say every episode is. Also cartoons and anime are the same thing, just anime are cartoons from another country.
    Quote Originally Posted by OceanicLanturn View Post
    Anime tend to have better plots and story than cartoons. Yeah, Cartoons are usually funnier, but it can get old after a while. And there are really good tear-jerking animes too.
    Certainly, there are a lot of funny cartoons, but there are plenty of funny anime as well, nichijou, cromartie high, zetsubou sensei and danshi koukousei no nichijou to name a few. As for western tear-jerkers, I can't really think of any.
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    Western animation is more geared towards anthropomorphics and children.
    I want to tell you to stop living, but seeing as thats pretty rude, I won't, instead, I'll ask you to explain in detail what exactly you mean.
    Quote Originally Posted by karczx View Post
    Japanese animation is more well-rounded with a diversity of different series and I grew up with various anime and manga series when I was a kid. So Anime it is.
    One thing I don't get about all this "I grew up with anime" stuff is that the same can be said for cartoons, I highly doubt when you were a kid, that any time any cartoon that wasn't japanese came on, you turned the tv off in disgust, and waited patiently for the next episode of Mew Mew Power. I mean, sure, I'll agree with you that there's a lot more diversity (or at least, that I've seen) but then again, I watch a lot more anime that western cartoons, so it isn't exactly fair for me to say.
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    Anime and cartoons are basically the same if u think about it.. sure people will argue anime is better and stuff but anime is just japanese cartoons. i prefer anime way more then cartoons for multiple reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by karczx View Post
    Western animation is more geared towards anthropomorphics and children.
    No it isn't. Have you never turned on prime time TV, or watched [adult swim], or hell, watched any of the Disney movies? Because, what a shock, there are adult moments in Disney movies.

    Very ignorant thing to say.

    Japanese animation is more well-rounded with a diversity of different series and I grew up with various anime and manga series when I was a kid. So Anime it is.
    Just because it is doesn't mean it's automatically superior to Western cartoons. And saying that just because you "grew up" with anime and manga makes this post even more ignorant. Because guess what: most of us here grew up on anime, but we also grew up on Saturday morning cartoons, which was typically all Western cartoons until the mid-to-late 90s when anime became more mainstream. Unless you somehow had access to any and all of the anime that was coming over from Japan during the late 80s/early 90s (I can't tell how old you are, but I'm guessing you're a 90s/'00s kid, and the anime from back then weren't geared toward children majority of the time), you didn't technically grow up on "various" anime.

    That's all I have to say about that.

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    As for western tear-jerkers, I can't really think of any.
    You don't get that many dramatic cartoons, but there will always be an episode or two of various shows that are tear-jerkers, always. "Tear-jerker" isn't a genre, it's just an atmospheric response to what happens to the characters on-screen. Many Disney movies have moments like this, as do DreamWorks, Blue Sky, and other animation companies. And of course the Saturday morning cartoons. I'm sure there were moments where you felt genuine sadness over what happens on a cartoon, but most of us aren't big criers when it comes to things like that unless we were really into it. I know a lot of people who say one of the saddest cartoon moments they've seen is the ending to "Jurassic Bark" from Futurama--which I've seen and will admit to feeling really depressed over the ending, even though it didn't strike me as hard as it would to other people.
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    That's an interesting argument about the "Tear Jerker" moments. I don't know if it is nostalgia or what but every time I watch Pokémon, some of the moments really make me bawl and I can't really think of any other shows that have done that. Pokémon is one of the only anime I watch but I have seen videos on YouTube where there were some deeply emotional anime moments. And I do think a huge part of that is the music though. "Tears After the Cloudy Weather," "Tears of Life," "Oracion," etc. are all very emotional pieces of music and I think that is what gives the anime emotional scenes more weight than a lot of western cartoons these days.

    Though like it has been mentioned, Disney/Pixar has been known to have "tear jerkers" here and there as well whether it is their movies or some of their TV shows (more specifically "Find Her Keep Her" in the Pooh cartoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutie Pie View Post
    You don't get that many dramatic cartoons, but there will always be an episode or two of various shows that are tear-jerkers, always. "Tear-jerker" isn't a genre, it's just an atmospheric response to what happens to the characters on-screen. Many Disney movies have moments like this, as do DreamWorks, Blue Sky, and other animation companies. And of course the Saturday morning cartoons. I'm sure there were moments where you felt genuine sadness over what happens on a cartoon, but most of us aren't big criers when it comes to things like that unless we were really into it. I know a lot of people who say one of the saddest cartoon moments they've seen is the ending to "Jurassic Bark" from Futurama--which I've seen and will admit to feeling really depressed over the ending, even though it didn't strike me as hard as it would to other people.
    I've heard about the episode, but never seen it (I don't watch much futurama anyway) but there are certainly some sad-ish moments in western stuff. I don't really get as sad as a lot of the people I talk to about this stuff, some of them said that certain things actually had them in tears, that just made me shudder. Take the ending of toystory3, sure, I guess you could say that was sad, I felt a little sad over it, but I know people that actually balled their eyes out in the cinema watching it. Another pixer one would be that bit in Up (if you've seen the film, you'll know the one I mean.)
    As for cartoons that made me sad, I can't really think of any. I mean when I was like 5 and I used to watch William's wishwellingtons, there was an episode about a lonely alien that had nobody, and that made me pretty sad as a kid. Can't think of anything more recent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24 View Post
    ...but I have seen videos on YouTube where there were some deeply emotional anime moments. And I do think a huge part of that is the music though. "Tears After the Cloudy Weather," "Tears of Life," "Oracion," etc. are all very emotional pieces of music and I think that is what gives the anime emotional scenes more weight than a lot of western cartoons these days.

    Though like it has been mentioned, Disney/Pixar has been known to have "tear jerkers" here and there as well whether it is their movies or some of their TV shows (more specifically "Find Her Keep Her" in the Pooh cartoon.
    If you haven't seen the anime that the "sad scene" is from, then a lot of the time, it won't have the same effect on you. Let's take Angel Beats, and the ending, I doubt that without seeing the rest of the series, and knowing everything that happens, the ending will have the same kind of effect. It was the first form of media that ever made me cry, but if I'd just seen the end, I don't think I would. Without context, it's just     Spoiler:- ending spoiler, just to make sure:

    As for nostalgia, I don't get that with cartoons, I get it with games. I don't watch episodes of kids shows and get nostalgic, most of the time I just enjoy them. With games though, when I play any games that I used to play when I was a lot younger, I get sad, thinking about all the fun hours I spent playing them, thinking of simpler times and all that. I may re-watch pokemon the first movie, at the time, I didn't think it was sad     Spoiler:- when:
    although, the pikachu thing did give me goosebumps. I wonder if any of the pokemon films will make me feel sadder now, than they did when I was younger.
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