No Sand Here (VGC Doubles)
Remember me, from months ago when I had this badly co-ordinated team that had an unnerve ttar? Well, said ttar is back again, this time with teamates that can support it. Or rather, this time he can support the rest of his team. It's worked alright for me in online battles, but I always, always have problems against sand and rain teams, so I'd like some help there. Anyway, the team:
Tyrannitar w/Choice specs
Base 95 SpA is actually quite decent and makes him viable for a choice specs set. Due to his enormous special movepool he can cover quite a few threats. The only problem I have is his frailty: Any fighting type move will OHKO him and I can't replace the choice specs with chople berry or focus sash...can I? He can't do nearly as much damage without specs but sometimes he dies too early.
For those wondering why he has surf, it's to beat sand teams and more importantly, for the next member of my team:
Jellicent w/wacan berry
Ability: water absorb
A victim of the 4 move syndrome. I'd love to fit a shadow ball but there's no room; and in the end my team needs ice beam to take on dragons more than it needs shadow ball for ghosts. Scald to inflict possible burns, and trick room to help put the slower members of my team as well as reverse it.
Ability: Storm drain
The other abuser of ttar's surf. Can also protect my team (aka TTar and Excadrill) from harmful water types.
Sableye w/mental herb
Sableye suffers a lot from the four move syndrome. I'd love to give him fake out, but with the annoyingly high number of opponents wasting my tailwinds with protect I realised I needed some way of punishing them. Taunt works great to stop others from setting up. Swagger+foul play gives him some way to stand his own ground, and a 50% chance of not being hit is great too.
EVs to maximise his fragile defenses. 8 speed to outspeed and taunt other sableyes.
Amoongus w/black sludge
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 108 SAtk
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 SAtk / 2 Spd
- Rage Powder
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Fire]
The classic trick room annoying mushroom. HP fire for the steel types who think they can wall the great mushroom.
Excadrill w/expert belt
Ability: Mold breaker
Does the speed boost from choice scarf equate to a speed boost from sand rush? Because the whole point of excadrill is to bluff a sand rush set, considering that any player will assume sand rush excadrill when seeing ttar on the same team in preview.
While mold breaker is hilarious in killing rotoms, he, too, dies so easily. With close combats, surfs and heat waves running rampant in double battles excadrill dies a lot.
I'm not sure if he should be replaced, because a steel pokemon definitely discourages your opponent from using too many dragons...
I know no one on my team has protect but honestly I can't find any space to put that move. If anyone has suggestions as to if I seriously need protect I'm happy to change movesets. I also desperately need either initimidate or reflect support, because no one on my team can take physical threats.
The biggest plus of this team is that the presence of ttar, excadrill and gastrodon leads everyone to think it's a sand team. Then watch their faces as gastrodon starts nabbing surf boosts from ttar, and even worse, their whole team can't eat berries!
Nothing on my team can withstand repeated surfs and draco meteor kingdras. I haven't played against many rain teams online but I don't need it to know that this team has huge problems in rain. I would gladly welcome a replacement to the current team.
Opposing sand rush excadrill. They're almost always holding a focus sash which prevents mine from killing them outright. And then my own team members die the next turn.
Sand veil+brightpowder garchomp. They're easier to deal with somewhat as most moves on my team has relatively high accuracy. I do get the occasional miss but ttar's ice beam+gastrodon's icy wind can usually handle him alright. A guy once swore at me when I KO'd his chomp with my ttar's ice beam and told me I only won because I abused hax. lol. I love creaming sand veil garchomps to the face.
Last edited by Thowra; 18th April 2013 at 3:09 PM.
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