I find it incredibly sad that Iris is the only getting decent development actually relevant to her goal, that isn't pointless in this DA arc.
Cilan- I don't know if that Purrloin episode was relevant or not, but I'm going with not, but I could be wrong. Still not as relevant as Iris.
Ash- The Caterpie evolving into Butterfree episode is pointless, and completely irrelevant. Even if he were to somehow catch it. Since he should be focusing on his OWN Pokemon not a wild Pokemon. Helping a wild Pokemon evolve, isn't making his own Pokemon stronger.
Iris- A goal set by Drayden for Iris to become a gym leader, while Iris has let's call it "Confrontation" with an actual Dragon gym leader, the only one outside of Drayden (and game Iris, White only). Is completely and wholly relevant.
Just shows that the writers favor Iris way too much.
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The Cilan episode wasn't relevant to his development because of how the only actual development - why he's afraid of Purrloin - was ignored and not shown to the viewers.
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So far Iris has:
-Improved upon her fear of Ice-types, doesn't fear Vanilluxe.
-Got her unruly Dragonite under control.
-Got a Gym Battle against Drayden where she's realized a secondary goal upon her main one that intertwine and connect to each other.(Dragon Master and Dragon Gym Leader)
-Her Axew can at least battle now abut he's average but that's something compared to not being able to touch Pansage and his development is connected to her's.
-Her insubordinate Excadrill listens to her and in the process she's learned and had focus on learning to understand her Pokemon better. This later came up again and into play with Dragonite since he didn't trust humans.
-Her rivalry with Georgia has become one where they don't dislike each other more so they now recognize each other as frenemies and worthy adversaries as evidenced by the Junior Cup.
-She also used that trick from her village elder to calm down a Hydreigon and bring a Deino out of its shell. Showing she's improved on one of two of the things it takes to be a Dragon Master.(Understanding their hearts)
Looks like she's getting another development episode with Clair who will surely help her get comfy with the idea of being a Gym Leader since she was hesitant of taking the job when offered it, it also connects back to Cynthia and how Iris looks up to her and you also realize that Clair trained Lance, the Champion of Kanto/Johto, iirc.
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I honestly never really was a fan of how clair trained lance in the anime, because it appeared to be the opposite in the games.
Cilan is in a worse state, but I think the lack of development can be attributed to the chance that he might accompany him to Kalos. If he does(and that's a if), he could perhaps recieve some major development in Kalos. But if he does not go to Kalos, then I must say he will stay inderdeveloped. It's a pity because one can use his quirks to make him a great character.
And I think Iris is getting focus because she might leave. However I won't speculate further on her departure.
I really thought DA would be solid. But there ois no development at all. No new moves no evolutions no character development. It really doesn't work.
Okay we will get some Iris closure with Clair appearing but nothing else.
I still hope they give us a good tournament like the first Don tournament so the story concludes well.
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She already has Uber Excadrill.She challanges against Shirona and Drayden.Most likely she will battle against Clair.Aren't these enough?Ash got nothing in Best Wishes.
Writers clearly love Iris more than other characters.I won't be surprised if only Ash apologizes to Iris in DA episode 9 and they continue traveling.
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Her goal is to 1) Understand Dragons better 2) Raise that little Kibago (that ironically never grows up)
They didn't give her Dragonite because they want her to win tournaments or anything....just hearing that makes me sick. She was given Dragonite so that she could understand the heart of a brash, unsociable, highly powerful Dragon which hates humans with a passion. Her bond with Dragonite was supposed to gradually grow until Dragonite completely trusts her and etc. Cynthia said in the Junior Cup that she still had a long way to go. Even in the Drayden episode hints about Dragonite's development was talked about. But all of this disappeared after that.
Her bond with Dragonite was left with a question mark "?". What I know is that Dragonite is now just a soulless Pokemon that is following Iris's command for some reason even Dragonite doesn't know.
But I will heartily agree that Iris was the most developed. She was atleast given a troublesome Dragonite to deal with and some character development in the process. Cilan is getting more and more detective episodes which the writers are for some reason finding more important than actual development.
Ash...well he gets the Butterfree episode. *Runs*
It could be a lot better, if Iris evolved her Axew to Haxorus.Because Axew wanted to evolve. or Iris should have caught Dratini and evolved him into Dragonite.Seeing her development could be nice.Getting a Dragonite in one episode a little unfair.
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the real thing that has disapointed me with the da episodes is that there has been no progress.Only 1 capture (and that was by oak) no new moves no evo's and no major battles. I think they should've just had a final don george tournament. At least that way everyone could've battled.
To be fair there could still be a tournament. We do still have a couple of months of unknown eps
Da is filler, we all knew that.
So in terms of who's getting the most development, that's Iris.
I guess Ash got some type of development but not really.
And the rivals, let one have a solid conclusion please!
The problem with "Iris' Dragonite" is this: Iris is capturing a fully evoled pseudo-legendary pokemon one episode before a tournament starts and in the next 3 episodes Dragonite takes the complete spotlight in the middle of a past's character cameo.
I like the same Dragonite in Project Tempest, Village/Drayden arc and through Episode N. Mainly because it's developed, develop Iris and doiesn't look so overpowered anymore.
Also, seriously. I start to like DA more than before. Why?
-Because I like that Ash wins something in Best Wishes, although it's lower than I want.
-Because Oshawott win something in Best Wishes, something that hasn't happened since Clay.
-Because Zoroark debuted. And more than that, because I love the history of tJoy in that island.
-I like the Rotom episode for many reasons. One of them is the capture.
-And I like that last week there were a double battle.
And I'm looking forward for at least, the 3 next episodes, even if I had a dissapointment in one of them.
Because BW was such a disappointment, I've lowered my standards and expectations. And after doing that some of the DA! episodes aren't too bad.
I actually enjoyed the episode with Rotom for instance. So far I'm very critical of DA! and not a fan, but I gotta say that there have been some good moments. I'm also looking forward to the Break Up episode, Butterfree episode, Clair episode, Jirachi and hopefully a potential lab episode. But then again I'm not gonna get my hopes up too much...
Yeah, I'm not taking DA! too seriously. It's supposed to be a lighthearted filler saga, so I'm not expecting huge plots. No expectations, no disappointments.