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    is there even a tiny possibility that he would take it to the new region like aipom in dp? then again why would he pickcharizard to stay over anything else... maybe he'll do similar to when he went from kanto to johto and take his whole team for a short period of time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted Fantasy View Post
    is there even a tiny possibility that he would take it to the new region like aipom in dp? then again why would he pickcharizard to stay over anything else... maybe he'll do similar to when he went from kanto to johto and take his whole team for a short period of time?
    I doubt so. It would end like in Johto: overpowered and predictable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    Yes, definitely same importance as Scraggy, last time I checked it appeared before Episode N even started.. -.-
    You misunderstood me. I basically just said he's a regular teammate, much like Scraggy also is. He doesn't take priority over Ash's other on hand pokemon. Which is very different from some of his past appearances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted Fantasy View Post
    is there even a tiny possibility that he would take it to the new region like aipom in dp? then again why would he pickcharizard to stay over anything else... maybe he'll do similar to when he went from kanto to johto and take his whole team for a short period of time?
    I doubt he takes any of his team to kalos. Johto was connected right to kanto, so it made sense. Kalos os really far away, so he will get a whole new team and oak the unova team.
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    At least this treatment of Charizard is to show that he is just like any other of Ash's pokemon. He's not God Tier and only to pwn everything in sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    Charizard being treated this way is laughable.

    I wish they brought back Gible instead.
    I like Charizard, but I kinda wish this too.


    As I said before, Charizard isn't back for a big battle. He came back to simply be a regular cast member with no importance greater than Scraggy, Snivy, etc. Which is why I said before I'd rather he come back for a short time and have a battle than come back just for the sake of making a comeback. People wanted Charizard on the cast again, there he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doryuzu View Post
    I like Charizard, but I kinda wish this too.


    As I said before, Charizard isn't back for a big battle. He came back to simply be a regular cast member with no importance greater than Scraggy, Snivy, etc. Which is why I said before I'd rather he come back for a short time and have a battle than come back just for the sake of making a comeback. People wanted Charizard on the cast again, there he is.
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    I don't even care what's happening now

    I am just freaking glad Charizard is OUT of that stupid, cliched, cheeky, gimmick, no-business-in-Johto valley and I honestly hope he doesn't go back. After this arc, he deserves retirement in Oak's Corral, and I hope that comes to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thriller View Post
    I don't even care what's happening now

    I am just freaking glad Charizard is OUT of that stupid, cliched, cheeky, gimmick, no-business-in-Johto valley and I honestly hope he doesn't go back. After this arc, he deserves retirement in Oak's Corral, and I hope that comes to be.
    So it's less degrading for him to be sitting in a fenced yard at Oak's lab playing around with muk and totodile than him training at a valley full of other charizard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yuoke View Post
    So it's less degrading for him to be sitting in a fenced yard at Oak's lab playing around with muk and totodile than him training at a valley full of other charizard?
    Apparently yes. Why train with your own kind when you can have totodile dance on your corpse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thriller View Post
    I don't even care what's happening now

    I am just freaking glad Charizard is OUT of that stupid, cliched, cheeky, gimmick, no-business-in-Johto valley and I honestly hope he doesn't go back. After this arc, he deserves retirement in Oak's Corral, and I hope that comes to be.
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    Charizard's role for the rest of the arc? Stay stuck in its Pokeball, what else? Writers know what we really want, don't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueDragonfangirl View Post
    Don't worry, BW will make your dreams come true, spoilers says soXD
    Charizard's role for the rest of the arc? Stay stuck in its Pokeball, what else? Writers know what we really want, don't they?
    Of course they do. They're making everything to fulfill our (best) wishes, you know. XD

    Anyway, I can see him having a little role in Clair's episode perhaps. I'm not expecting anything for him, at this point. His return feels so wasted... :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cresselia92 View Post
    Of course they do. They're making everything to fulfill our (best) wishes, you know. XD

    Anyway, I can see him having a little role in Clair's episode perhaps. I'm not expecting anything for him, at this point. His return feels so wasted... :/
    Yeah Charizard's return looks more like a fanboy squeal attempt not anything actually in the plot. It's like Kenhallow wasn't marketable enough so in comes Charizard since both Mukuhawk and Osubame had their respective runs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikatoshi26 View Post
    Yeah Charizard's return looks more like a fanboy squeal attempt not anything actually in the plot. It's like Kenhallow wasn't marketable enough so in comes Charizard since both Mukuhawk and Osubame had their respective runs.
    Everything can be marketable if they shove it in your face hard enough. Unfortunately they ignored Unfezant since she was a Pidove.

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    I think he is going to learn a new move then stay at the lab at the saga ends.
    Maybe he'll fight another legendary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thriller View Post
    I don't even care what's happening now

    I am just freaking glad Charizard is OUT of that stupid, cliched, cheeky, gimmick, no-business-in-Johto valley and I honestly hope he doesn't go back. After this arc, he deserves retirement in Oak's Corral, and I hope that comes to be.
    Chariard probably would prefer to live and train with other Charizard at the Valley rather than futz around at Oak's lab.
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    I really don't care what Charizard does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudsonn98 View Post
    Chariard probably would prefer to live and train with other Charizard at the Valley rather than futz around at Oak's lab.
    Not like the Oak pokemon aren't training, all the ones that came back to the show came back improved, training with Infernape, Krokoodile, Snorlax, etc can help him get stronger that probably trainings against Charizard that are the same species.

    Like Thriller I would like all of Satoshi to be at Oak, mainly because I like to see them all together when we get lab episodes(that hasn't happened since Hoenn) or possible cameo appearances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Not like the Oak pokemon aren't training, all the ones that came back to the show came back improved, training with Infernape, Krokoodile, Snorlax, etc can help him get stronger that probably trainings against Charizard that are the same species.

    Like Thriller I would like all of Satoshi to be at Oak, mainly because I like to see them all together when we get lab episodes(that hasn't happened since Hoenn) or possible cameo appearances.
    That would solve many problems, but as said above, it just doesn't suit some of the pokemon's personalities. Charizard would want to keep training in the Valley, being with Charla, getting stronger (I know it could get stronger at the Lab, but it would just battle the same pokemon over and over, and would want a "Real" challenge in other charizards). Squirtle too, has the responsibilities of leading the Squirtle Squad.

    The only ones I could ever see coming back from training is Gliscor, and to a lesser extent, Primeape. Gliscor was only allowed to go off with the Air Master to master Giga Impact and to train. By the time of the Sinnoh League, he returned, mastered Giga Impact, mastered several flying techniques and proved his strength to Ash and Paul. With that, I don't see any point in him returning to the Air Master, other than "Getting stronger". And as you said, it could grow stronger at the Lab, so with the exception of specialist training, I don't see the point. As for Primeape....Well it's both wishful thinking and the idea that it would actually retire as a boxer pokemon, and fight in actual pokemon battles.

    Personally, I think they'll be some story of sorts at the end of the saga, where Ash will send Charizard back to the Valley, and Iris will say "What, are you crazy? That's your strongest pokemon, why are you such a kid and want to send it away?". Then, that could prompt Ash and Charizard to reassess their relationship, and perhaps question the idea of Charizard permenantely staying at the Charific Valley, permenantely staying at Oak's to be called upon, or to just try and split the two previous ideas.
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    I may be alone but I'm hating charizard for coming back
    I mean unfezant had very little development
    I'd rather have focus on other pokemon than one of ashes top notch ones
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    Anyway yeah I think maybe the iris V ash episode maybe they will battle
    Or else the Clair one
    But I'm seeing the Clair one focusing around iris more


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    Quote Originally Posted by adamfitz View Post
    I may be alone but I'm hating charizard for coming back
    You're not alone. I know a few people who didn't want him to come back. I was one of them, but I gave him a chance because I assumed that he was going to battle against Reshiram or something during Episode N, which would've justified his return. Well, that didn't happen and now he's taken over Unfezant's role and it just seems degrading. I don't particularly like Charizard, but even I feel that it's messed up to give such a powerful Pokemon mundane tasks. Charizard's isn't using his full potential so his return seems pointless imo.

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    I totally forgot about Charizard. I think it should have returned to the valley when Episode N ended. It is just going to appear in a few episodes in DA and it is really a waste because you can't bring back Charizard for some lame episodes when most of the time it is in its Pokeball.

    People were happy that the writers treat Charizard like a normal Pokemon now, but I don't think it should be like that. Charizard is a legend in the anime, so I was totally okay and happy when it came back to Episode N to fight but now it is just a waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IcySealeo View Post
    People were happy that the writers treat Charizard like a normal Pokemon now, but I don't think it should be like that. Charizard is a legend in the anime, so I was totally okay and happy when it came back to Episode N to fight but now it is just a waste.
    That is exactly why I like the fact that he's being used as a normal Pokemon. Do you know how sick it gets to see comments in forums, youtube, etc. that always say "Ash should bring Charizard back" "If Ash used Charizard he would have won" "Charizard is the strongest of all of Ash's pokemon" even if the episode or video had nothing to do with Charizard. The only reason why Charizard is considered a legend is because it was brought only for specific fights. So having it being treated just like any other of Ash's pokemon is a nice breath of fresh air.

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    Charizard should have left by now. Why the writers aren't using this time to bring back other old pokemon from Oak's is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    Charizard should have left by now. Why the writers aren't using this time to bring back other old pokemon from Oak's is beyond me.
    Yeah, I'm questioning that too. I'd rather see other Pokemon than seeing Charizard getting squat.
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