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    Quote Originally Posted by ReshiZekyurem View Post
    Indeed. What should be the best way to make them come back imo is to give 'em an epic match like they did to Sceptile. Now THAT was something. Pidgeot should surely return though, Ash had made a promise, lol!
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    I'd rather not see Infernape be associated with BW right now.
    Why not? he is ash's strongest poke, plus he could help pignite learn flare blitz
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoennDreamer View Post
    Why not? he is ash's strongest poke, plus he could help pignite learn flare blitz
    Ok, Ash's strongest pokemon is already on his team right now (wheter it is Charizard or Pikachu is up to personal preference, but it's pretty clear common sense wouldn't pick another pokemon for that position). Infernape is strong... but not THAT strong...

    Besides, Pignite isn't even appearing since DA started... I doubt something big will happen to any pokemon right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoennDreamer View Post
    I would kill to see infernape return
    He practically had all of DP to himself. He doesn't need more screen-time.

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    Didn't work at all, but that would only come from non-charizard fans. Why make it worse right at the end by trying to force more old pokemon in?
    I've seen both fans and non-fans of him complain, and with good reason imo. He hasn't done anything noteworthy since his return and it just feels like he's taking up a spot on Ash's team that a neglected Pokemon like Unfezant or Palpitoad should occupy instead. Why the writers brought back a fully developed Pokemon like Charizard just so it would sit there, I have no idea. It can't have been just for ratings because his debut episode's rating was mediocre at best and all subsequent episodes have gotten average to below average ratings as far as I can tell. He didn't do anything during Episode N and DA seems full of random fillers, so I can't see him being used in a major battle.

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    Meh. All I really care about seeing is charizard. My charizard Hylian was my first pokemon ever. Well, obviously it wasn't a charizard then, but...

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    I don't think we need any old Pokemon to return. If I had to choose however, my choices would be Buizel and Butterfree (who is actually coming back!)

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    They should have brought back heracross. A true beast of a Pokemon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    They should have brought back heracross. A true beast of a Pokemon.
    it was pretty cool. i just want to see pokemon he hasn't used in a while or the ones that didn't get much screen time. i am still waiting for kingler to return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciccone View Post
    He practically had all of DP to himself. He doesn't need more screen-time.



    I've seen both fans and non-fans of him complain, and with good reason imo. He hasn't done anything noteworthy since his return and it just feels like he's taking up a spot on Ash's team that a neglected Pokemon like Unfezant or Palpitoad should occupy instead. Why the writers brought back a fully developed Pokemon like Charizard just so it would sit there, I have no idea. It can't have been just for ratings because his debut episode's rating was mediocre at best and all subsequent episodes have gotten average to below average ratings as far as I can tell. He didn't do anything during Episode N and DA seems full of random fillers, so I can't see him being used in a major battle.
    Possibly to have a reason for him to be in the same movie that mrwtwo returns in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciccone View Post
    He practically had all of DP to himself. He doesn't need more screen-time.



    I've seen both fans and non-fans of him complain, and with good reason imo. He hasn't done anything noteworthy since his return and it just feels like he's taking up a spot on Ash's team that a neglected Pokemon like Unfezant or Palpitoad should occupy instead. Why the writers brought back a fully developed Pokemon like Charizard just so it would sit there, I have no idea. It can't have been just for ratings because his debut episode's rating was mediocre at best and all subsequent episodes have gotten average to below average ratings as far as I can tell. He didn't do anything during Episode N and DA seems full of random fillers, so I can't see him being used in a major battle.
    Agreed. Fully developed Pokemon don't have the same character dynamics required for a filler episode. It's just weird seeing a Charizard fighting TR no matter people say. This is why the regional team needs more focus. I will wait till Charizard's departure to say if it's return is a waste or not, but for now it is a waste of screen time for Boldore or Palpitoad.

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    I'd have preferred a short but sweet return for Charizard, perhaps a rival battle with it in or something. Most episodes it is in it doesn't do anything spectacular.

    I would have very much preferred several short returns of different old Pokemon of Ash's. Torterra, Gible, Gliscor, Torkoal, Totodile, Muk and Kingler each winning a battle would have been amazing. Plus, there are numerous team members that are shafted and all we see is Oshawott, Oshawott and more Oshawott.

    I'm genuinely sad that we won't have a filler saga like OI or BF where there is a small quest where Pokemon can get a few new wins, or like BF or the Sinnoh and Johto leagues where we see a number of older Pokemon being redeemed. Noctowl in the Sinnoh League was a good example of how a little bit of love can make a difference. Is there anyone that doesn't worship either Oshawott or the writers that wouldn't swap 20 episodes in which Oshawott screenhogs and achieves nothing for 3 or 4 episodes where older shafted Pokemon are shown to be competent in battle with a few new moves to boot?

    This is what I hope we'll get with Butterfree. A nice episode where it battles under Ash once more and has a few good new moves. It would be SO great for it to meet the old kanto team again, of which Charizard and Pikachu are already on his team. If the writers mess this episode up then I will be really disappointed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtynun View Post
    I would have very much preferred several short returns of different old Pokemon of Ash's. Torterra, Gible, Gliscor, Torkoal, Totodile, Muk and Kingler each winning a battle would have been amazing. Plus, there are numerous team members that are shafted and all we see is Oshawott, Oshawott and more Oshawott.
    Same here. I would have preferred if the writers focused more on the Unova Pokemon (reserves included) during BW(2) and give us short but significative and memorable returns of older Pokemon during DA.

    As much as I'd like to see older Pokemon, I have to agree with the people who don't want returns. It's better if they give more focus on the Unova Pokemon, before moving on with XY.
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    I'll be interested to see if anything comes with their inevitable docking in Vermilion City.. Squirtle and Ambipom are both there after all, are they not?

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    Squirtle and Ambipom would be amazing!
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    I'd actually really like there to be some kind of mishap as the ferry comes into dock at Vermillion harbour, thus requiring the local fire brigade (aka, the Squirtle Squad) to come and assist.. It's highly unlikely I know, but still it would be a great way to bring the little guy in for some short-term marketing and it could give us an interesting episode to boot.

    Ambipom? Even less likely, but who knows? After all, they did go through the trouble of specifically mentioning her future location when she left..

    When it comes down to it, we've just got to remember that they're showing us BUTTERFREE of all Pokémon, so anything is possible really. I'm surprised they didn't conveniently have Lapras return to take them around the new archipelago.

    So yeah, Squirtle, Ambipom, Pidgeot, Primeape, Lapras? I'm prepared for anything now.. Except Haunter, poor Haunter..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCharyZard View Post
    I'd actually really like there to be some kind of mishap as the ferry comes into dock at Vermillion harbour, thus requiring the local fire brigade (aka, the Squirtle Squad) to come and assist.. It's highly unlikely I know, but still it would be a great way to bring the little guy in for some short-term marketing and it could give us an interesting episode to boot.

    Ambipom? Even less likely, but who knows? After all, they did go through the trouble of specifically mentioning her future location when she left..

    When it comes down to it, we've just got to remember that they're showing us BUTTERFREE of all Pokémon, so anything is possible really. I'm surprised they didn't conveniently have Lapras return to take them around the new archipelago.

    So yeah, Squirtle, Ambipom, Pidgeot, Primeape, Lapras? I'm prepared for anything now.. Except Haunter, poor Haunter..
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    I would hope his Buizel returns. He was awesome.

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    I think Ash's Unova team needs more development. Though, I would really like to see ONE of Ash's water starters evolve, even if it's just to their middle stage. I'd also like Pidgeot, Primeape, and Gliscor to make a couple of closure cameos. Basically, I'd like opportunities for Pokemon that didn't get much screen time and even if they did, never got to evolve. Ash's Unova team should be developed first though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yuoke View Post
    Possibly to have a reason for him to be in the same movie that mrwtwo returns in.
    Do we know if he'll have a major role in the movie though? Unless he's battling against the Genesect, which already seems unlikely given Mewtwo's presence, I can't see what else he would do. It just seems redundant for a Pokemon to come back if it's not going to do anything. Which is why I'm against old Pokemon returning for more than one episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charmed View Post
    Do we know if he'll have a major role in the movie though? Unless he's battling against the Genesect, which already seems unlikely given Mewtwo's presence, I can't see what else he would do. It just seems redundant for a Pokemon to come back if it's not going to do anything. Which is why I'm against old Pokemon returning for more than one episode.
    I am willing to vouch for the opinion that Charizard will hardly be doing anything in the movie. It might be in the poster, but I highly doubt it will at least appear let alone have a good battle.

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    Seems like a waste of time. He isn't training Charizard for anything specifically and the thing barely shows up as is. If that's the standard for what returning Pokemon is, then I'd rather them not come back at all.

    It just stinks of "A last ditch effort to cater to old fans".
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    I've been really happy with Charizard's return.. namely his interaction with Pignite. Even though he's done little outside of that, he's still been enjoyable to me.

    Old Pokémon returning and interacting with new team members is always a great idea in my book, even if they add very little to the overall plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charmed View Post
    Do we know if he'll have a major role in the movie though? Unless he's battling against the Genesect, which already seems unlikely given Mewtwo's presence, I can't see what else he would do. It just seems redundant for a Pokemon to come back if it's not going to do anything. Which is why I'm against old Pokemon returning for more than one episode.
    Well, there are the other 4 genesects too, so it's possible he could battle one, along with dragonite to another one. Other than that, the only thing could be Ash like flying around on him to get somewhere like in movie 3.
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    Ash should go back to the Unova League at the end and win it. Then we can call him a Pokemon Master and Gen 6 can have a new guy in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCharyZard View Post
    I've been really happy with Charizard's return.. namely his interaction with Pignite. Even though he's done little outside of that, he's still been enjoyable to me.

    Old Pokémon returning and interacting with new team members is always a great idea in my book, even if they add very little to the overall plot.
    Ah, I had overseen one good thing that happened since Charizard returned. The brief interactions with Pignite were good. Man, I need more of their bromanship.

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    im pretty sure that where ever region ash goes too, at least one of his old pokemon will show up. happens every saga.


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