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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo-Jo
    Oh, is that what Drew was saying? O_o How odd. Normally whenever May goofs up, he can't wait to rub it in her face, but this time he looked really angry with her.
    He was honestly angry at her. He was angry at her for not thinking more about her Pokemon and just blindly taking someone's advice. Here's how it worked out:

    May comes in and apologizes to Harley for not taking his advice. Drew tells her there's no need for her to apologize, because Harley's advice was just part of his strategy to defeat her. Harley admits to it, and May gets mad.
    May: That...That was HORRIBLE OF YOU!
    And then Harley immediately gets in her face and says, "I'M not the one at fault here." He points at May. "Because YOU were the one who didn't trust your own Pokemon, and trusted me instead."

    And to confirm the truth of this, after Harley leaves, Drew criticizes May for falling so easily into Harley's trap. May protests, but Drew cuts in, REALLY ANGRY now, and yells, "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE UP TILL NOW?!" May looks stunned, and Drew calms down a bit, leaving her with one final piece of advice, "You ought to think more about your Pokemon."
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    You gotta give Harley some credit, he really does seem to care for Pokemon. I mean, he like loves his Cacturne and Bannette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Incarnation Pokemon
    He was honestly angry at her. He was angry at her for not thinking more about her Pokemon and just blindly taking someone's advice. Here's how it worked out:

    May comes in and apologizes to Harley for not taking his advice. Drew tells her there's no need for her to apologize, because Harley's advice was just part of his strategy to defeat her. Harley admits to it, and May gets mad.
    May: That...That was HORRIBLE OF YOU!
    And then Harley immediately gets in her face and says, "I'M not the one at fault here." He points at May. "Because YOU were the one who didn't trust your own Pokemon, and trusted me instead."

    And to confirm the truth of this, after Harley leaves, Drew criticizes May for falling so easily into Harley's trap. May protests, but Drew cuts in, REALLY ANGRY now, and yells, "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE UP TILL NOW?!" May looks stunned, and Drew calms down a bit, leaving her with one final piece of advice, "You ought to think more about your Pokemon."
    Thanks! I did wonder what was going on in that scene. Aw, poor May - and Drew, for that matter. He was awfully harsh, but you could kind of tell why. People who are having difficulty keeping their own emotions under control shouldn't give out advice, if you ask me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jo-Jo
    Thanks! I did wonder what was going on in that scene. Aw, poor May - and Drew, for that matter. He was awfully harsh, but you could kind of tell why. People who are having difficulty keeping their own emotions under control shouldn't give out advice, if you ask me.
    You're welcome! Glad to have a chance to practice my Japanese listening skills, which are still pretty bad...>_<

    Personally, I really like what Harley said. It's really a shove in the face of all of those May fans who are all, "ZOMG YEAH HARLEY ISH T3H SUX0RZ HES SUCH A JERK FOR TRICKIN MAY HE GOT WUT HE DISSERVED!!!111!!!1!!", because there's no way anyone can deny the truth of what Harley said: that it was May's own fault for trusting Harley instead of her own Pokemon and relying on his bad advice instead of relying on her Pokemon's abilities.

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    When Skitty is on the top of the thing she made, is she doing a little dance on her hinds?

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    I think Harley deserved to lose to May... after trying to trick May into losing her match. As May soon found out, he is not a nice guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murgatroyd
    This is especially true given the timing relative to the League. Everyone who needs just one more badge will be challenging the Gyms around now.
    That's a really great point, makes me wonder if the writers had that in mind or if its just a nice coincidence for fans to pick up.

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    I was just scanning through pics from the episode...Mother Coordinator appeared, Eriko appeared, Norman and Harry were seen, That...girl...from the Grumpig episode, and The Phantom was seen...who was the guy next to him with purple hair? Please tell me it wasn't supposed to be his dad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulba the Great!
    I was just scanning through pics from the episode...Mother Coordinator appeared, Eriko appeared, Norman and Harry were seen, That...girl...from the Grumpig episode, and The Phantom was seen...who was the guy next to him with purple hair? Please tell me it wasn't supposed to be his dad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murgatroyd
    By using the least elegant method possible (exhaustive search of Serebii's character profiles), I've found him. He's from the very first Contest episode we saw.
    WTF.

    WTF.

    How the *hell* did I not know it was him when I saw him? ;_; I loved Chaz! :O

    And, heh. Janet didn't appear. Strange. o.o But yay, Chaz!

    Thanks for clearing that up. I seriously was very confused as to who he was and such... but, I wonder. Why was he with Timmy? *s*******

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    That's such a good episode..
    Skitty's sppeal was awesome! Assist attack could come in real handy sometime..But when it got confused by the Petal Dance attack, I was a little worried...Luckily, May got through..And Drew, he was awesome with his Masquerain! A perfect score! Only the top coordinator could do that! But I'd give the edge to Robert..He and his Milotic scored 100 points too..o_0
    As for Harley, he is so mean and despicable tricking May like that...
    Overall, it's one of the best episodes ever...I give a rating 9.5/10 for the episode!!!

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    I'm not sure if it's his attitude or his tone, but something makes Harley a lot more menacing when he gets angry 0_0

    I liked the judges' comments on Skitty's attacks. It showed that they all have different ways of judging.

    The famous Assist Solarbeam appears =)

    It was cool to see all of May's past rivals/friends watching her on TV. We also saw Norman with the Slakoth line is his living room. Cool

    Heh, Jessie disguised as Anthony was funny =D As was Meowth's remark about Jessie using the word small.

    Snorunt sneezing an Ice Beam was hilarious xD

    Drew's appeal was awesome. Masquerain is probably my favorite Pokémon of his.

    Again, I can't help noticing how incredibly tall Harley is in comparison to May and Drew °_°

    Overall rating:
    8.6 out of 10
    Good character development in this episode, particularly for May. The Grand Festival is quite decent in my eyes, actually, but I, along with everyone else, wish it had been longer.

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    This was a really good episode. May's Skitty using Assist over and over again was foolish of May, but hey, she was tricked by Harley. I liked how Drew stood up for May when Harley tricked her. Anthony's dub voice was kind of, well, off, but I liked Swalot's appeal.

    10/10

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    I loved this episode as well as the other Contest Shippers!

    Harley called Drew, May's boyfriend

    As for Harley's battle, he got what he deserved

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    Since the two episodes aired back to back they kinda blurred together, but both were quite good.

    Harley's appeal was excellent. Bannette is creepy, definitely the best appeal in the episode. I do like it that May was brought down to earth and only got a 79 even after all those Assists and the ice tower.

    Ptttf, Drew gets a perfect score of 100? I'm thinking the judges are bias. Harley said it best about his appeal, "That's not that great."

    May was so cute when she ran out on stage, awesome. Loved the scenes of the past coordinators, Savannah/Sandra, Kelly and the rest of them. Norman cameo too!

    Lololololol Anthony. Shame his battle was like 3 seconds, I kinda liked him. He was funny.

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    89 for Jupetta-chan... Those judges are off their rockers. And again, Robert just has to have Mirokaross sparkle to get a perfect score... I love Robert, but come on. Same goes for Shuu. Jupetta-chan's appeal pwned them all. =/

    I didn't like Banette's voice. Way too low for my tastes. Harley's little freak-out and "Move!" was great though.

    For a dub, this one was pretty good. Not the best, but certainly not the worst.
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    *And now time for Medea's ramblings*

    Harley may be a liar, a sneak, full of crap, a two-face, full of himself, a jerk, good chance of being gay, and probably a porn star!

    ...BUT I STILL LOVE HIM...

    Good episode overall. And I said it before last year and I will say it again, it was great seeing Banette. I just really didn't like it's voice all that much.

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    Kanata cameo!

    I wonder, though...why didn't Grace get a cameo? It pains me that so much time was wasted in this episode. Tonpei is a dull character that occupies precious time that should be used for extending battles, and his plot is absolutely pointless. The really good stuff was held off until Part 3.

    At least the animation wasn't as hideous as in Part 1, though Harley still looked a little off.

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    Banette's voice wasn't one of my favorites, but Its appeal made up for it.

    I'm not quite sure If I'm going to like Glalie better than Snorunt, but the show might surprise me on that one.

    Harley.... I HATE Harley to the bone. Not because he tricked May and all that, but because he acts like an idiot, dresses like an idiot, and his voice makes me want to do unpleasant things. If it wasn't for his Cacturne and Banette, I'd send hate mail....
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    I loved this episode

    Skitty's appeal was Amazing and I loved Masquerain's appeal too!
    I didn't see Harley's though T_T

    I can see why Harley has so many fans....He's superbly evil,funny and awesome and his feminincy makes him an even better character!!Now he's one of my favorites.

    Did anyone notice Harley didn't say Izabe contest He said:"I did it for revenge *he freaks out* for the time you beat me in the Purika convention!!"

    I guess the script had a goof up. Kind of sad though =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by shining-Celebi
    Did anyone notice Harley didn't say Izabe contest He said:"I did it for revenge *he freaks out* for the time you beat me in the Purika convention!!"

    I guess the script had a goof up. Kind of sad though =/
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    May yelling at Harley, "And you dress weird!" was friggin hilarious.

    I must say that 4kids did a great job with the dialouge in the entire Grand Festival. Nearly all of May/Drew/Harley and even Team Rocket's lines were brilliant.

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    May yelling at Harley, "And you dress weird!" was friggin hilarious.
    Yeah heres an example that 4kids can actually improve over the original. I too enjoyed how well 4kids kept Harley's character and overall how they handled the May/Drew/Harley reactions in with each other. Although I didnt think there were as many contest shipping suggestions in this episode. Maybe there is a contest shipper at 4kids.

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    I think Harley calling Drew "May's boyfriend" was dub added. Considering May had like, zero reaction to that line, I'm pretty sure Harley didn't say that in the original.

    I didn't like that line for that reason, it didn't work well with May's character. She just shrugged it off and didn't care.

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