We need to be able to effectively search for pokemon on the GTS. I want to look at stats, abilities, (preferably IV's/EV's) etc
Personally, I absolutely hate the Dream World. I racked up enough points to get over 10,000 dream world points. It was a hassle, a pain, and very limiting. I hope that it is removed and doesn't come back. I've only used it twice in BW2 due to the points resetting...
Some alternatives to the dream world that should be implemented in game:
Safari Zone: The safari zone could be a great place to catch wild and rare (for the region) pokemon. These pokemon could then have a decent chance to have a hidden ability. The safari zone could have different zones (swamp, lake, mountains, plains, cave, etc). New pokemon can be added via downloadable content (like how zoos get new 'exhibits). None of the design your own safari crap like in HG/SS.
Hidden Grottos: Hidden Grottos can all have hidden abilities but primarily showcase pokemon. Not items. Reduce the amount of steps needed for a grotto to reset.
Swarms: Post-E4 game can have swarms. These swarms change daily. One swarm for the east region, one for the central region and one swarm for the west region of Kalos. So there could be 3 swarms a day total. These also change day to day.
Birthday's: The professor or your parent gives you a rare starter with a hidden ability on the day/month of your birthday. (Post-Elite Four)
Lumiose City Park: There could be a small park (which could be added/updated via downloadable content) that includes base form pokemon with hidden abilities. Kind of like an updated version of the Man with the mansion that had rare pokemon in his garden...
Areas of Previous Generations: If we have to have a dream world it could be a place to visit older generations (or parts of older generations). For example if you tucked in a Geodude, it could have a dream of being in caves in Johto. So for example, you could play a small fraction of Red and Blue. Or lets say you tuck in a Tropius, you could play a select route in Ruby/Saphire try and catch some pokemon from a tall grass route in Hoenn. The location you dream about depends on the generation and area that pokemon was found in the game. Pokemon found and caught in this fashion would have their hidden ability.
What do you guys think?
Last edited by anderdan; 3rd July 2013 at 8:52 PM.
I thought that the news suggested that the DW would still be around in XY just that it would be slightly different? I'm sure the bulbapedia article said that it would just be closing for the older games. I could be wrong though...
I don't mind the dream world itself but it would be better if it was like the old pokewalker because then you wouldn't need a good internet connection in order to use it. I have a terrible internet connection so the games often don't download and I can't get the pokemon I want by myself.
Last edited by Ausgirl; 4th July 2013 at 1:20 PM.
For next gen, I'm hoping at least one of these restrictions gets relaxed:
-No control over which area in the Island of Dreams you can visit aside from merely being able to affect the odds of which one you go to.
-Island of Dreams dries up after about 8-10 visits.
-Only one Pokemon from the Island of Dreams can be taken back per session
-Island of Dreams areas are overstuffed with Pokemon to the point where finding the exact Pokemon you want is nearly impossible.
It's made finding DWfs an absolute chore, and there's no reason to make them that rare.
i like the idea of Dw but if it comes back some changes are necessary....
- lower the amount of DW point u need in order to get something... 10.000 points is ridiculous and a chore...
- make it easier to find the pokemon u want
- since u only have 1 hour to play, there was no need to make pokemon appear less and less every time u went on the island
- being able to bring more than one, 3 i think is a good number
- being able to see the pokemon statsand gender before u play the minigame.... i dont want to waste the already restricted amount of time we have
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I think the Dream World could really be improved by making it a more social experience and by allowing access in-game. Why should we need a computer to access such simple features? Now the games will be on 3DS cartridges which hold anywhere from 2 - 16 times the max amount of data that a DS cartridge could hold.
I hate the Dream World so much. It takes forever to load, and the time limit is dumb- I mean, I get why they do it, they've got a ton of traffic, but here's the thing. Servers are pretty cheap. Buy more of them.
The problem is, Nintendo doesn't really seem to understand the appeal of the internet, which is a real shame. Eventually they'll step up their game, but somehow I don't see it happening in time for X and Y.
But, if they found a way to handle their traffic, I'd love to see them get rid of the once-a-day-for-one-hour limit they've got on the Dream World. It'd also be nice if they could throw us a bone and make it so it wasn't the only way to get berries and most hidden abilities.
I farmed the absolute heck out of the DW and found it not worth it in the least. It's not fun. It's not rewarding. It's a chore and time consuming. Not to mention once someone finds a female the trading market becomes swarmed with them (which is only thanks to you lot! So thanks!) so once a breeder gets the DWF they want, no one else needs to go in again. Ever. Aside for unobtainable moves (but even those are more often than not, worthless).
It was the worst part of Gen V, without a doubt. I'm putting it above how broken GTS was.
If it continues I sincerely hope they make it less needed. It is a great addition! But the ONLY way to get DW abilities?
A CRAPTASTIC minigame barrage that makes neopets look like the most fun you can have? A requisite for having the ability you want?
They can keep it around as an additional way to get the pokemon. They can keep it around for berry farming (though I hope that is improved and less required to get said berries) but they REALLY need to incorporate some in-game ways of gaining DW abilities.
Farming for a female with the ability would still be hard work, but hard work spent IN-GAME, and being in-game means anyone can do it and then trade their females around (instead of only online-heavy people using the DW and then trading around. It is easy to trade online with a crap connection, it is hard to get on DW with one).
Also these ideas that include the 'DLC' option sound cool. Nintendo DLC has always been rather enjoyable. Turning on Animal Crossing and grabbing a Rainbow for my room for free from the wifi is always fun, and getting the Genesect event is never a bother. Making these 'events' more available like this sounds cool.
So yes. There are plenty of places where the abilities could be tucked in nicely that I believe they should be placed. anderdan summed it up quite nicely.
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Dreamworld is dead!
My 3DS games:
- Mario Kart 7 (2011)
- Resident Evil: Revelations (2011)
- Super Mario 3D Land (2011)
- Bravely Default (2012)
- Fifa 13 (2012)
- Fire Emblem: Awakening (2012)
- Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl (2013)
- Pokémon Y (2013)
- Steel Diver: Sub Wars (2014)
Here is my shot at a revamped DW/new area wish list:
Revamped Dream World
• Allow us to choose which area we want (I sincerely hated being put in the Dream Park no matter what type of Pokémon I tucked in)
• Bring in as many Pokčmon as we like.
• More mini games and a "Challenge" version of the mini games where the goal is much harder but the Pokémon you get has a special move like Inferno Misdreavus (and is a breedable move too).
• Give another berry and "wish" what Pokémon would you like to see in the next visit like how you donate a berry to take a Pokémon.
• Extend the amount of steps to the Tree to 20 instead of ten.
• Although not related to the Dream World itself, allow non-genderless and Male-only Pokémon's DW ability to be breedable.
• NO BERRIES (put them ingame), but then again some if not, most berries are useless anyway so meh.
• Don't include Medals that require the use of DW, it was already bad enough that these medals will be impossible to obtain at the end of the year.
As for the new area, there could be an island post game where five random Pokémon will appear each day, all with their DW ability excluding legendaries, starters and Pokémon without a DW abilities.
Ditto is supposed to take on the role of the female Pokémon when breeding (even if there is another female in the day care with it) so why they didn't make it so you could breed DW abilities from males (with a DW ability) and a Ditto with a DW ability is beyond me!
Grottos were an improvement but they still were lacking as it was impossible to encounter many Pokemon even ones in Grottos (that low encounter chance... in an already low spawn chance) It got to the point it felt easier to find shinies than Pokemon with Hidden abilities
Edit shiver someone reminded me of the dreaded berry system 0_0 must go never to be attempted again...
Last edited by Dragrath; 8th July 2013 at 2:54 PM.
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I hope the thing they led us carry over to XY are the dolls since It was a pain in the *** to get them all!!
I really hope we see the berries in game again. Maybe in a more refined 'garden' behind your house instead of at plots found around the world? (Both so that we have a place to farm and places to find new berries)
Having DW give the 'competitive' berries sounds... alright I suppose.
I would truly like to put them all in the game and stop having to get things on DW but it makes sense at least.
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I would rather see the dream world become a downloadable game for the 3DS that interacts with the games like Dream Radar. I would also like to see an update to Dream Radar when X and Y are released.
More than Dream Radar or the dream world, I would love a new Pokémon Box for 3DS that let's you transfer pokemon between your DS/3DS cartridges and your SD card. It would solve the issue of backwards compatibility and give us back a great tool for pokemon collecting.
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