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    Quote Originally Posted by DMerle View Post
    The reason I posted it in spoilers was because it was about X/Y, and heavily contains talk about the upcoming Gogoat episode as that's a huge part of the discussion.

    For those people saying it's impossible, it's not. People are talking about script-writing and casting as if that's something that happens after they've got the footage, that's absolutely absurd. The episode would not have to be in the final stage of production to be dubbed, things like battle animations and shading could quite easily be left out when the footage was passed over for dubbing.
    It does happen after they've got the footage. TPCi don't work with the original production team. They buy the finished product and then dub it. It's the same scenario for every other language too.

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    To people arguing that it isn't "impossible", does it really make you feel any better convincing yourself that? We all know it isn't happening either way, so I would imagine it would make worse believing that it is possible to happen.
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    It won't air along side the Japanese air dates and as much as I like the dub anyway, I wouldn't really like watching it straight after the Japanese version since I'd choose it over the dub.

    At most, around the first 3 episodes of the XY anime will air a week after it's release as a sneak peak or something till next year. In my opinion of course but even that's unlikely.

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    I know we still have a fair few episodes left to air both in Japan and the Dub. Mainly for the episodes in Japan, we already have confirmed episodes and from what I myself and others can guess we still have more episodes left, but how do we know for certain how many episodes we really have left before its the end of best wishes. We don't exactly know how many episodes are left.

    I will admit I don't exactly know how the tv companies work over in Japan, but I do know how most companies work over in the United States and other countries and I would expect similarities to occur worldwide, mainly the relationship between film companies, the processes from filming/animating, the long process up until the initial airing of an film or episode.

    My point being is if the same similarities exists worldwide who's to say the producers of Pocket Monsters (pokemon) might want a break or something else for that matter. Most tv shows I watch tend to have long breaks In between seasons/series of a show, it's something I haven't seen a lot of with pocket monsters in japan, i know they have breaks. from the episodes we do know about I reckon we don't have too many episodes left, it's possible that the producers want that break to spin new ideas/characters etc... and I'm sure they already have a big amount of ideas to continue satoshi's story. We have seen how they have reused elements probably to make it easier for themselves, and you can only go so far using ideas you have used before people start to make note and want change, just like a lot of the people I have seen on these forums.

    A lot want change, do we as an audience have a say. Who knows. I'm sure we might have some influence because at the end of the day. Who pays for the products they are selling to keep the anime and the franchise as a whole alive. US.
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    It could happen, but i'd rather wait it out.

    Having the games released simultaneously already seems like too much of a good thing, but if companies were willing to do this for the games, the TV show is another opportunity waiting to happen.

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    Speaking of worldwide release, I have thought about another thing they may do. They could do a trailer, similar to the one of BW2, and release it in all the versions of the official Pokemon sites. It won't exactly be the "official" anime, but it may work. However, that's more a pipe dream than a possibility, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haunter227 View Post
    It could happen, but i'd rather wait it out.

    Having the games released simultaneously already seems like too much of a good thing, but if companies were willing to do this for the games, the TV show is another opportunity waiting to happen.
    It's a different scenario. GameFreak and Nintendo make games for the whole world, so it's easier for them to get the localisation teams working together with the script writers while the game is still being made. They also don't need to hire voice actors or anything like that. With the anime, it's made in Japan alone, then TPCi licenses it. And that's just for the English dub, every other language has to jump through hoops to get their own version of the anime running too.

    TV just isn't designed to be aired worldwide like that. The closest you can probably get is a dedicated subtitling site like Crunchyroll, but they only have to get a license and then make subs. They don't have to write a script, edit it, dub it and get a TV network to air it, etc.

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    It's funny how when I brought this up, it was dismissed instantly but now there's a thread on it.

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    Well, if the English dub of Pokemon X and Y anime won't start in October 17, then it may start in the beginning of 2014, which is what I'm hoping for.

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    Well we might get a Sneak peak on October like we did with the first two episodes of AG!

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    I know that it is impossible to have it simultaneously
    But of course they can shorten the 13 episode gap
    They have dine it before, we are now 3 months behind
    And were at one point 12, then 6, now 3
    So maybe to tie in with a worldwide game release the gap could be shortened
    Iv rather be behind by a moth and a half or so....

    Oh well at least we will get to see Alexa near the release and her Helioptile, gogoat and noivern. Its just gonna be odd watching DA while I'll be so far if not finished the game


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    Even if the gap would be down to a month or month and a a half, it doesnt make a big difference. The games will be relatively "old" news in the US by December and is just when BW will be be getting close to ending. There is no way getting around that the anime dub gets shafted with worldwide release, but the games come and first and japan comes first.
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    All I have to say is that I think everyone will be surprised come October when it comes to the anime....

    I've said this for the past couple of years ever since Platinum came out. The international releases were getting earlier and eariler, but yet everyone would always shut me down when I kept speaking of a 'worldwide release'. "Oh the translations and marketing will take up all the time". And look at where we are now.

    Clearly the TPCi and The Pokemon Company of Japan have changed the way in which they communicate and share information so that Pokemon fans can truly experience it together.

    So why not the anime? Just like with the games, maybe there's a special animators team that works on the original and dub together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLee View Post
    All I have to say is that I think everyone will be surprised come October when it comes to the anime....

    I've said this for the past couple of years ever since Platinum came out. The international releases were getting earlier and eariler, but yet everyone would always shut me down when I kept speaking of a 'worldwide release'. "Oh the translations and marketing will take up all the time". And look at where we are now.

    Clearly the TPCi and The Pokemon Company of Japan have changed the way in which they communicate and share information so that Pokemon fans can truly experience it together.

    So why not the anime? Just like with the games, maybe there's a special animators team that works on the original and dub together.
    It just doesn't work that way, and there is no reason for them to go through all of that to get out the dub that early. The anime just doesn't have popularity in America to warrant it.
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    That, and the game's localisation is a one-off thing while the anime's dub is continuous. With the games, they only need to work together during the production period, but for the anime they'd have to keep all that work up constantly. It might not be impossible, but it's probably unfeasible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLee View Post
    All I have to say is that I think everyone will be surprised come October when it comes to the anime....

    I've said this for the past couple of years ever since Platinum came out. The international releases were getting earlier and eariler, but yet everyone would always shut me down when I kept speaking of a 'worldwide release'. "Oh the translations and marketing will take up all the time". And look at where we are now.

    Clearly the TPCi and The Pokemon Company of Japan have changed the way in which they communicate and share information so that Pokemon fans can truly experience it together.

    So why not the anime? Just like with the games, maybe there's a special animators team that works on the original and dub together.
    This user is a source of information regarding TPCi. These user predicted since Platinum that sooner or latter it would be a worldwide game release (even when many of us thought that it could be impossible). What happened now? That we have a worldwide release.

    This user probably is a familar/parent/friend of someone that works on TPCi. This person probably don't klnow details about what will happen (and if they do, it won't be spoilered to you) but he/she knows "something" that gives her "opinion".

    What this user is taking around is thatr this scenario could happen in the near future:
    -Until October, Decolora Adventure.
    -12th October, Alexa's debut.
    -19th/16th October: Departure episode/Ash's flying in Kalos.
    The week after that: Start Kalos.

    I think that this users could be potentially right. We "forgot" something important here: You notice that the sho'ms amin purpose is promoting the games. We know that the dub episodes before they air in Japan (which means that they aren't dubbing earlier because CN).

    There are two main date for buying the games: Release date and Christmas. And the anime is a event to promote selling the games, aprticularly because watching the anime could makethat many children will want that Santa Claus give the games to the children next Christmas.

    If we are through a standard thing, the XY series will start on January 2014. Meaning that all the promotion would get lost by when the anime arrives.
    In many places this can't be possible because it's very difficult to control so many schedules at the same time. In Spain, they won't do anything similar because they have already problems dubbing one season through the year and because they expect selling 200,000 copies and is a country that doesn't get profit right now. In the US they expect to get 3 millions of copies and they could get more profit fromt he franchise by airing the anime.

    If I were a part of dubbing team, I will do this:
    -If the anime has not aired Episode N, here of course; first we have to air Episode N (and the league if that's still pendent).

    And if Episode N has aired and the games are released:
    -Air the first episode.
    Air the Alexa debut.
    Air the departures and Ash's going into Kalos.
    -Start XY.

    In Canada, they pre-empted BF to air Diamond and Pearl; in many European countries they more than oprobably air BW teaser before Sinnoih ended for them. If TPCi wants, CN will air XY episodes and not the rest of Decolora because TPCI will want to promote XY.

    The reason of why Da! don't have any plot whatsover is because the animators are aware of the worldwide release of the games. For if the dub wants to skip Da! they will accept by only airing the Alexa and departure episodes.

    I don't think that the US will skip Da! and that he anime won'0t air in October.
    But given the contents of what we know, for me I think that Best Wishes we have only the epsiodes that we know fromt he Data Broadcast and I think that the last episode will be Iris and Cilan specials (Zekrom being Iris).

    That way the 93 days gap will be a 49 episode gap (19 episodes) which means the dub will start in ealry December just in time for Christmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLee View Post
    All I have to say is that I think everyone will be surprised come October when it comes to the anime....

    I've said this for the past couple of years ever since Platinum came out. The international releases were getting earlier and eariler, but yet everyone would always shut me down when I kept speaking of a 'worldwide release'. "Oh the translations and marketing will take up all the time". And look at where we are now.

    Clearly the TPCi and The Pokemon Company of Japan have changed the way in which they communicate and share information so that Pokemon fans can truly experience it together.

    So why not the anime? Just like with the games, maybe there's a special animators team that works on the original and dub together.
    It. Cannot. Be. Done.

    Scripting, casting and recording is impossible to get done that fast. Period. You are comparing apples to oranges by comparing it to the games and I think you know that.

    I can't believe this nonsense is still going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Butler View Post
    It. Cannot. Be. Done.

    Scripting, casting and recording is impossible to get done that fast. Period. You are comparing apples to oranges by comparing it to the games and I think you know that.

    I can't believe this nonsense is still going on.
    Yep, apparently surprisingly a lot of people will be disappointed when the dub doesn't start until at least january.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Butler View Post
    It. Cannot. Be. Done.

    Scripting, casting and recording is impossible to get done that fast. Period. You are comparing apples to oranges by comparing it to the games and I think you know that.

    I can't believe this nonsense is still going on.
    Let's not forget that even if it was possible, which it technically might, no, hear me out.

    It is possible for the dub to air an episode roughly around the same time as the Japanese, since they get the episodes that far in advance.

    However here's the problem.

    While there may be a close synchronizing airing, people have to realize, that in order for TPCI to do that, they'd have to sacrifice something in order to get it done.

    Having a healthy supply of episodes backed up.

    They would only be able to air synchronized airings of the episode (or at least a week to two weeks) but it would be at an episode to episode basis. Imagine something that happens like what happened in the 5th generation where an earthquake caused three episodes to be skipped.

    TPCI would be royally screwed on that because they wouldn't have anything to air, because they would still be in the process of dubbing that 4th episode, or finishing it up, so it could air within four weeks.

    That is the primary reason why it won't happen. These episodes in Japan are made many months in advanced, and I'm sure technically the 1st XY episode is already near completition if it's not already done. This is just in case something happens and an episode HAS to be skipped. Japan having probably 6-8 episode in backlog makes this possible.

    The dub would have NO episodes in backlog, if they were trying to do a synchronize airing. And they aren't ever going to do that. Because if something happens to Japan, the dub is royally screwed and won't be able to air any episodes for probably 4 weeks.
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    We know that other countries has to dub pokemon frm the US.

    I found out that in France BW S2EN-14 aired on June 22th. In Italy, BWS2N-11 aired around the same date. In UK they are airing two episodes each week since May 18th (which means that it's airing Eisode N right now). In Germany te last episode that IF know aired in Febraury 2013. In Spain, the last episode of Rival Destinies aired aired in Febraury.
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    However, Latin America only has aired until BW 064 going by the Wiki Dex.

    Which means that every main european country is airig/has aired the anime with a gap of only 5 months since the Japanese version.

    Remembervthat the European duba words differently: ey air epvarious episodes through thgecweek during two mnths, stopand they o it again.

    Also, in many countries there won't be too much problem if a DP character returns. For example, in Spain, Clan TVE is airing today Dawn vs Zoey. And in UK I see te eisode where Piplup learns Hydro Pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fer92 View Post
    This user is a source of information regarding TPCi. These user predicted since Platinum that sooner or latter it would be a worldwide game release (even when many of us thought that it could be impossible). What happened now? That we have a worldwide release.

    This user probably is a familar/parent/friend of someone that works on TPCi. This person probably don't klnow details about what will happen (and if they do, it won't be spoilered to you) but he/she knows "something" that gives her "opinion".

    What this user is taking around is thatr this scenario could happen in the near future:
    -Until October, Decolora Adventure.
    -12th October, Alexa's debut.
    -19th/16th October: Departure episode/Ash's flying in Kalos.
    The week after that: Start Kalos.

    I think that this users could be potentially right. We "forgot" something important here: You notice that the sho'ms amin purpose is promoting the games. We know that the dub episodes before they air in Japan (which means that they aren't dubbing earlier because CN).

    There are two main date for buying the games: Release date and Christmas. And the anime is a event to promote selling the games, aprticularly because watching the anime could makethat many children will want that Santa Claus give the games to the children next Christmas.

    If we are through a standard thing, the XY series will start on January 2014. Meaning that all the promotion would get lost by when the anime arrives.
    In many places this can't be possible because it's very difficult to control so many schedules at the same time. In Spain, they won't do anything similar because they have already problems dubbing one season through the year and because they expect selling 200,000 copies and is a country that doesn't get profit right now. In the US they expect to get 3 millions of copies and they could get more profit fromt he franchise by airing the anime.

    If I were a part of dubbing team, I will do this:
    -If the anime has not aired Episode N, here of course; first we have to air Episode N (and the league if that's still pendent).

    And if Episode N has aired and the games are released:
    -Air the first episode.
    Air the Alexa debut.
    Air the departures and Ash's going into Kalos.
    -Start XY.

    In Canada, they pre-empted BF to air Diamond and Pearl; in many European countries they more than oprobably air BW teaser before Sinnoih ended for them. If TPCi wants, CN will air XY episodes and not the rest of Decolora because TPCI will want to promote XY.

    The reason of why Da! don't have any plot whatsover is because the animators are aware of the worldwide release of the games. For if the dub wants to skip Da! they will accept by only airing the Alexa and departure episodes.

    I don't think that the US will skip Da! and that he anime won'0t air in October.
    But given the contents of what we know, for me I think that Best Wishes we have only the epsiodes that we know fromt he Data Broadcast and I think that the last episode will be Iris and Cilan specials (Zekrom being Iris).

    That way the 93 days gap will be a 49 episode gap (19 episodes) which means the dub will start in ealry December just in time for Christmas.


    What I got from that is that if you want to watch the anime and you don't live in the good ol USA or Japan. (The only two countries that really matter when it comes to pokemon and anime in general) then you're screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceGray View Post
    What I got from that is that if you want to watch the anime and you don't live in the good ol USA or Japan. (The only two countries that really matter when it comes to pokemon and anime in general) then you're screwed.
    I don't live in Japan or USA, 99.9% of the people my age group in my country don't even know that Pokemon games exist....and I am not screwed. You just have to be obsessive enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceGray View Post
    What I got from that is that if you want to watch the anime and you don't live in the good ol USA or Japan. (The only two countries that really matter when it comes to pokemon and anime in general) then you're screwed.
    What the hell are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceGray View Post
    What I got from that is that if you want to watch the anime and you don't live in the good ol USA or Japan. (The only two countries that really matter when it comes to pokemon and anime in general) then you're screwed.
    Your kinda right but actually, only Japan matters! :P

    I know a lot other places that get Pokemon anime dubbing but not just that, UK has actually gotten dubbed episodes before US since TPCi manages Pokemon outside of Asia and Australia. I think TPC manages everything elsewhere.

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